Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Midwest Weedist said:
Are you sure you weren't just smelling the neem decomposing?
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Actually, I investigated that possibility -- sniffing the soil , and the resin off the plants, separately. It was definitely the plant that had an acrid, rather unpleasant smell.

Midwest Weedist said:
Lol maybe they decided to have a terpene strike until you have them less light ;P cannabis can be a fickle lady
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OR! it was the smell of the neem decomposing that floated up over the sticky areas of the plants and then somehow got combined lmao (but even that should then also happen to other people, i.e. be a known side effect of using it?)
Cheers! :mrgreen:
 
So Ive hear people dont like perlite, so what are your favorite aeration additions? I dont like breaking up lava rock, and read using100% rice hulls can be problematic for whatever reason.

Id like to add rotten wood chunks, whats the besr way to make that?
 
Quick question guys. I just completed my first complete run of ROLS and I have to say it's freaking harsh.

How would one go about a flush? Do you guys have to flush?

Before I did this I always starved for the last 2 weeks approx. And always found it to taste and smoke better.

Thoughts?
 
@Organicgrow42 were your plants green until the end? I just finished up my first rols run and I don't find the smoke to be any harsher than when using bottled nutrients but I also wouldn't consider it smooth either.. it's still smoke after all. I'm also shit at detecting subtle flavors, smells, etc in pot so who knows!
 
Organicgrow42 said:
Quick question guys. I just completed my first complete run of ROLS and I have to say it's freaking harsh.

How would one go about a flush? Do you guys have to flush?

Before I did this I always starved for the last 2 weeks approx. And always found it to taste and smoke better.

Thoughts?
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Same weed? I'm curious. I have a kid here who thinks my weed is smoother from not using the C02 to dense the buds up, but I'm also not adding any nutrients the whole grow. I use increasingly larger pots and recycled soil mixed with new and perlite. I normally added an appropriately diluted amount of fertilizer with each watering. I haven't had the time to try the ROLS thing. I'm afraid too of bringing bugs into a grow. How do you keep mites out? I'm more into isolation from bug problems from outside clones (I make my own mostly) and anything that may somehow carry mites inside where I grow. Is it the same strain though? That seems more harsh now?
 
bizfactory said:
@Organicgrow42 were your plants green until the end? I just finished up my first rols run and I don't find the smoke to be any harsher than when using bottled nutrients but I also wouldn't consider it smooth either.. it's still smoke after all. I'm also shit at detecting subtle flavors, smells, etc in pot so who knows!
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your first round might have had too much food? were the plants fading at harvest or still lush green? People always say how smooth my weed is but I forget cause I been growing like this for many years and I am so a pot snob I dont ever smoke other peoples weed. Flavors and smells can easily be lost in the drying process, also very much strain dependent you might not have found the best strain for you... one of my favorite weed to smell and smoke seems average to other people.
 
Plants stay green til around week 4 or 5 and then I give 1 tea maybe 2 depending on how they look. I starve last 2 weeks to try to ensure no left over nutes but how can you do this with rols?

The particular strain that I tried first is jedi kush. Green crack has a couple more weeks behind it as my second attempt. I normally dump my soil out and reamed and then let sit a couple months so not new to recycle just no til I guess

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Hey everyone. I am having some smart pot issues. Thought I would see if anyone has solved it. I'm sure most smart pot users know how easily the edges of the smart pot dries out. This effectively reduces the amount of soil you have to grow in because plants cannot survive in bone dry soil on the edges of the smart pot.

I am thinking to remove and remix the soil and wrap the smartpot in another layer of fabric then plastic tarp to help contain moisture. I think it will work because the double fabric layers should stay relatively dry but the tarp will keep all the moist air inside the fabric. What do you think?

Has anyone else found neat tricks to rewet the sides of smartpots without the water running out?

I love the pots. Hate the loss of water from the sides. Talk about frustration!

edit: After thinking. Maybe wrapping in 2 or 3 layers of fabric in place of the plastic tarp would be better to keep water from evaporating. I'm looking for any suggestions!
 
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4ftRoots said:
Hey everyone. I am having some smart pot issues. Thought I would see if anyone has solved it. I'm sure most smart pot users know how easily the edges of the smart pot dries out. This effectively reduces the amount of soil you have to grow in because plants cannot survive in bone dry soil on the edges of the smart pot.

I am thinking to remove and remix the soil and wrap the smartpot in another layer of fabric then plastic tarp to help contain moisture. I think it will work because the double fabric layers should stay relatively dry but the tarp will keep all the moist air inside the fabric. What do you think?

Has anyone else found neat tricks to rewet the sides of smartpots without the water running out?

I love the pots. Hate the loss of water from the sides. Talk about frustration!

edit: After thinking. Maybe wrapping in 2 or 3 layers of fabric in place of the plastic tarp would be better to keep water from evaporating. I'm looking for any suggestions!
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My original thought is, if you're gonna go to all that effort and cost of materials, why not just get some fabric pots? maybe the same issue? (drying out), or other issues?

I did use and like the benefits of smart pots while growing in coco, and I've still got them somewhere (in my attic I think), but I hated having to push the coco into all the little dimples when potting up, which I feel is essential when using smart pots. This reduces drying out (maybe this is just with coco, but I'm sure it'd be the same with soil), you've got to pack it in to them cones, It's not like soil compacting at the bottom of a container, the roots will work towards the air hole even if you pack it real tight, because of the fact that that's still the best source of 'fresh' air and will still dry out slightly before the rest of your pot.
 
4ftRoots said:
I have huge home stitch 34 gallon pots on wheels. I always liked smart pots because I can grow much bigger plants in them. So I want to stay with them I just want to use all my soil.
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I feel you get the same air pruning and lateral branching of roots with a fabric pot, and if you are worried about drying out, at least you can spray the outside of your fab's, not diss'in smarties, but if you're gonna wrap it in plastic, whats the point of using a smartie?
 
I agree with you completely. But I want my cake and I want to eat it too lol. I don't grow in very crowded area so that may be why I have to resort to this type of action. I wrapped a pot in just tarp to see if I experience root circling on the tarp. If not I would say this is a great way to use smart pots because they will stay confined in a very high humidity area. I'll report in a couple months!
 
4ftRoots said:
I agree with you completely. But I want my cake and I want to eat it too lol. I don't grow in very crowded area so that may be why I have to resort to this type of action. I wrapped a pot in just tarp to see if I experience root circling on the tarp. If not I would say this is a great way to use smart pots because they will stay confined in a very high humidity area. I'll report in a couple months!
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Yeah, I'd certainly be interested in the results, like I said, I loved my smart pots, just found re-potting hard work
 
DonBrennon said:
Yeah, I'd certainly be interested in the results, like I said, I loved my smart pots, just found re-potting hard work
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If you can, try to start your seed in the final pot. It allows the plant to grow bigger. You can find a bunch of studies on it. And now you can love smart pots again! lol
 
4ftRoots said:
If you can, try to start your seed in the final pot. It allows the plant to grow bigger. You can find a bunch of studies on it. And now you can love smart pots again! lol
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I think I'm gonna try that on my side by side soil run, clear plastic cup over the top for germination, then hardening off? What do you think Not sure yet, still plenty of time and planning to be done on that one
 
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