What level of gun control do you support?

[Oregon Gardener]

You missed him with all 4 shots?

No actually, when he saw my gun he bolted. I let em;slide Funny, my O'l man said the same thing to me. Kinda strange. Anyway, I whited up the glass in car. I had the moral obligation to let him slide, but I couldn't just give 'm a pass.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Some people are obviously weaker than others. For example Guns give a 90 pound woman the power to prevail over a 300 pound crazed attacker. If you had a daughter and she was about to be raped and murdered, would you rather she had a gun or a rape whistle?

You didn't even understand the gist of my posts to this thread. Guns mean nothing to me. I neither worship the power nor fear it. The real power is in your mind. Take a junior college English course and learn to read. Stop fantasizing about how powerful guns make you feel and the worship of them. Trust me. I know all about guns. They're just tools. Killing is in the mind. Not in the chamber. Learn peace and love.

Am I the only peaceful pot smoking hippy on the RIU?

Peace and love to you my brother.

 

[Rob Roy]

Why should we always be thinking we need a gun to defend ourselves at all times? That's the problem. People are scared and think more guns are a solution. I dunno man. I don't really fear guns. We have a global mental health issue.

Guns can be excellent defensive tools and provide security.

A woman or a girly man like @chesus rice might find a gun useful / defensive if placed in a situation where they are over matched physically and there is nobody around, but themselves, to provide protection.

Indiscriminate use of force for BAD things, can be deterred if the thug knows or even thinks his potential victim is armed. This can be illustrated...

If you live in a crime ridden area, and there are lots of break-ins going on, would you rather be armed or not ? If you had a choice of placing a sign in your window which would make more sense...

1) I'm old, weak and feeble and will offer no defense, hey thugs, c'mon in, cash is in the cookie jar, silver is in the closet

2) This home is defended by an armed person, intruders and thugs may be shot, multiple times if necessary.

 

[Rob Roy]

You didn't even understand the gist of my posts to this thread. Guns mean nothing to me. I neither worship the power nor fear it. The real power is in your mind. Take a junior college English course and learn to read. Stop fantasizing about how powerful guns make you feel and the worship of them. Trust me. I know all about guns. They're just tools. Killing is in the mind. Not in the chamber. Learn peace and love.

Am I the only peaceful pot smoking hippy on the RIU?

Peace and love to you my brother.

No, you are not the only peace loving pot smoker here.


Also, if you are being overwhelmed by somebody stronger than you or that is armed and you are not, your mind may not be the best defensive tool. Peace.

 

[NoDrama]

You didn't even understand the gist of my posts to this thread. Guns mean nothing to me. I neither worship the power nor fear it. The real power is in your mind. Take a junior college English course and learn to read. Stop fantasizing about how powerful guns make you feel and the worship of them. Trust me. I know all about guns. They're just tools. Killing is in the mind. Not in the chamber. Learn peace and love.

Am I the only peaceful pot smoking hippy on the RIU?

Peace and love to you my brother.

Soooo in your opinion the 90 pound woman will prevail over the 300 pound attacker on pcp as long as she thinks she can?
You have never actually been in any kind of a dangerous situation have you?

 

[Lord Kanti]

If that were the problem then why not make it harder for the wrong people to get their hands on guns, the pukes in Congress wont even pass common sense laws and that's why the President will act with executive action soon and Dan Molloy acted on common sense law.

B4L

Why not put a stop to making "the wrong people" instead? I've posted before that American schools used to have shooting teams and that mass shootings weren't sensationalized news after the mass production of the AK-47.

Healthcare
Deinstitutionalisation
Unfulfilled populace
Permanently temporary jobs instead of careers...

Hell, pretty soon you'll be looking for "Made in Russia" stickers on your food if you don't want corporate sponsored GMOs in your kitchen.

I don't watch broadcast commercial television anymore, but when I'm a guest and it's on, there is ad after ad suggesting something is wrong with me and that I should ask my doctor to dope me up with something new.

Guns haven't changed drastically, America has.

 

[pnwmystery]

mass shootings weren't sensationalized news
Healthcare
Deinstitutionalisation
Unfulfilled populace
Permanently temporary jobs instead of careers...

I don't watch broadcast commercial television anymore, but when I'm a guest and it's on, there is ad after ad suggesting something is wrong with me and that I should ask my doctor to dope me up with something new.

Well we've found some things we can agree on. Yeah, I think it's nuts how much we sensationalize mass shootings, the Umpqua guy even said this was probably the only way he'd get on the news.

 

[ChesusRice]

Guns can be excellent defensive tools and provide security.

A woman or a girly man like @chesus rice might find a gun useful / defensive if placed in a situation where they are over matched physically and there is nobody around, but themselves, to provide protection.

Indiscriminate use of force for BAD things, can be deterred if the thug knows or even thinks his potential victim is armed. This can be illustrated...

If you live in a crime ridden area, and there are lots of break-ins going on, would you rather be armed or not ? If you had a choice of placing a sign in your window which would make more sense...

1) I'm old, weak and feeble and will offer no defense, hey thugs, c'mon in, cash is in the cookie jar, silver is in the closet

2) This home is defended by an armed person, intruders and thugs may be shot, multiple times if necessary.

I got shot
Being armed would not of stopped it.
My position on gun control is zero

 

[Rob Roy]

I got shot
Being armed would not of stopped it.
My position on gun control is zero

It's good you are not for using guns of government to confiscate guns from everyday people that aren't initiating force against others.

Except you make an exception to your own claim of zero gun control. Your law proposal for some form of prohibition contradicts that.

If a person has the right to defend themselves (apparently you believe that...good for you) don't they have the right to defend themselves when other people would forcibly limit their peaceful interactions with other people?

You stated trade in cannabis would be illegal in your proposal, the enforcement of that unnatural law would result in guns being used OFFENSIVELY by Police thugs and presumably you would PREVENT peaceful people from using guns DEFENSIVELY against the thug / cop / unnatural law enforcers.

Thus you ARE for some forms of gun control.

 

[ChesusRice]

It's good

You are insane, Racist and a pedophile.
Stfu

 

[Rob Roy]

You are insane, Racist and a pedophile.
Stfu

Your erroneous response fails to address my accurate and succinct post above which proves you are for government controlling the use of guns, in addition to being a person that has proposed legislative prohibition, Prohibitionist.

If you could have understood it, you still wouldn't have been able to refute it.

 

[D528]

 

[Rob Roy]

The person in this video is trained to reframe the question and help ease the transformation from a rights based society to one where government decides which privileges people will have.

Very similar construction used in this topic, "gun control", as how cannabis legalization is occurring, you can have what and how much WE say you can have...IF we say you can have it.

Not that I'm a fan of the USA's constitution (it doesn't protect freedom consistently) but shouldn't some oath keeper douches be calling this treasonous bastard out for his twisted reframing of the question? Oh never mind, many oath keepers are on government pay rolls and won't say a thing. Kiss your guns good bye suckers!

 

[D528]

Call a cop ? lol.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

We really do need mental health evals but those are so subjective we should use them as a guideline only, not as a verdict.

NRA psychiatrist vs Hillary voter psychiatrist. How many times are they likely to agree?

France has never diagnosed ADHD while here in America we've labelled millions of kids. That's not possible for everyone to be right.

That's what makes mental health such a difficult and divisive field, it's based on subjective findings and anyone can read those findings in their own way. There would be no consistency. Of course, our government would try a one-sized fits all program, but it won't fit all, we are lucky when it fits most.

It's also why a lot of governments historically have used it to justify taking weapons.. oh you politically disagree? Mental health patient take his guns.

Besides, people under the mental health label are less likely to be violent. It's actually people on drugs with side effects that include inducing extreme psychotic breaks from reality which tend to do the mass shootings. No one talks about these known and acknowledged (on the packaging) side effects though. Of course most of those drugs do nothing and there are many better alternatives in the plant world.

 

[UncleBuck]

Some people are obviously weaker than others.

and those people go out and buy many guns to feel better about their tiny wieners.

 

[Padawanbater2]

It's also why a lot of governments historically have used it to justify taking weapons.. oh you politically disagree? Mental health patient take his guns.

Besides, people under the mental health label are less likely to be violent. It's actually people on drugs with side effects that include inducing extreme psychotic breaks from reality which tend to do the mass shootings. No one talks about these known and acknowledged (on the packaging) side effects though. Of course most of those drugs do nothing and there are many better alternatives in the plant world.

I'm assuming you don't think people with legitimate mental health issues should legally be allowed to buy a gun, right?

If that's the case, how would you effectively screen those with legitimate mental health issues and those without who have mental health related issues on their record?

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I'm assuming you don't think people with legitimate mental health issues should legally be allowed to buy a gun, right?

If that's the case, how would you effectively screen those with legitimate mental health issues and those without who have mental health related issues on their record?

Why shouldn't people with "mental health issues" be able to buy a gun? They are less likely to commit crimes of violence or crimes in general.

Being mentally ill isn't a crime and it can also be very subjective.

Like I said, all totalitarian communist governments did this shit. They'd label you mentally ill if you politically disagreed and would say you were dangerous, take more than just your guns.

 

[anzohaze]

You have no consideration of others. 3 DWIs and you'll keep on doin it.

Yup until hr kills someone or himself

 

[OGEvilgenius]

It is worth noting though that I think store owners should be able to sell to whoever they want. If some guy mumbling to himself comes in looking for a gun I wouldn't have a problem with them denying a sale.