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Legal to grow and possess illegal to sell

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
arrangement* see how easy it is to make a mistake
why does everything have to be compared to slavery or rape with you ?
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*arrangement, yes, nice catch. Although I believe you need to re-arrange your * and put it front of the word.


Rape ? Slavery ? Hey c'mon, sometimes I talk about people being Prohibitionists or shitting on floors or being fake Anarchists.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
Because the alternative is nothing.
Are you really this FUCKING stupid?
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No, I'm not stupid at all, Prohibitionist. In fact, I suspicion even you may not be fucking stupid, rude, and a bit of chump maybe and probably a small man in many ways.

There are lots of alternatives to your deep throating of the state to get a cookie from them though. You could disobey and bite their figurative dick, you could move to Somalia, you could move to another plantation within the USA where slaves have "permission" to have a little bit of cannabis or you could grow anyway.

Instead, you chose to propose a law which benefits you and potentially puts SOME people in jail for cannabis, then you claim there is nothing prohibitionist about your proposed law, when it includes a prohibition right in the proposal itself. Fucking stupid? Hmmmm.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
Your views are closer to Anslingers.
He was a racist just like you
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Well Prohibitionist, it's like this....you're wrong about me. I'm not a racist and I think its based in ignorance.

But you..... I think Harry Anslinger and you BOTH have proposed marijuana prohibitions though, haven't you?
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
Well Prohibitionist, it's like this....you're wrong about me. I'm not a racist and I think its based in ignorance.

But you..... I think Harry Anslinger and you BOTH have proposed marijuana prohibitions though, haven't you?
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Anslinger was for Legal to grow and possess?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
Anslinger was for Legal to grow and possess?
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I release you from any obligation you feel you have to defend your prohibitionist law proposal.


It's okay, you fucked up, it was a dumb idea, but nobody's gonna bust your door down and give you a wedgie or anything slugger.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Rob Roy said:
I release you from any obligation you feel you have to defend your prohibitionist law proposal.


It's okay, you fucked up, it was a dumb idea, but nobody's gonna bust your door down and give you a wedgie or anything slugger.
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What's dumb about his idea? Why would you oppose somebody freely growing their own?
 
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ChesusRice

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Harrekin said:
Spain allows under the table selling, so there's still huge sums of money being made.

Washington DC is an exception because it where the Houses of Powah are.
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Spain doesn't allow it.
They just choose not to prosecute it. Which is the natural order of things. The beautiful thing about my idea is that it eventually leads to full legalization.
Probably Farmers markets at first, or clubs like Spain
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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ChesusRice said:
Spain doesn't allow it.
They just choose not to prosecute it. Which is the natural order of things. The beautiful thing about my idea is that it eventually leads to full legalization.
Probably Farmers markets at first, or clubs like Spain
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No it's actually because the Spanish constitution disallows the Govt from restricting what people do in their private spaces.
 
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ChesusRice

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Harrekin said:
No it's actually because the Spanish constitution disallows the Govt from restricting what people do in their private spaces.
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Selling any quantity of cannabis is a criminal offence. Purchasing, possession and consumption of cannabis in a public place constitutes a misdemeanour and is penalized with a fine and confiscation. Consumption by adults in a private space, is legal.[129] About 500 private "cannabis clubs" exist in Spain, 200 of them in Barcelona, and Spain is spoken of as the "new Amsterdam," a destination for marijuana tourists.[130] The cultivation of cannabis is decriminalized for adults in a private space, because it exists a kind of legal vacuum which decriminalizes the cultivation of cannabis making them misdemeanors; but it's not legal by the Spanish law. Anyways, cannabis plants that are visible from the streets (for example in balconies) are considered a serious administrative offense, which leads to a fine from 601 to 30.000€.[131] All related actions to cannabis unless the sell/trade are not considered as criminal offenses,[132] and normally they are misdemeanors punishable by a fine.[133] Selling/trading is highly illegal and is punished by jail penalties
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country#.C2.A0Spain
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ChesusRice said:
Spain doesn't allow it.
They just choose not to prosecute it. Which is the natural order of things. The beautiful thing about my idea is that it eventually leads to full legalization.
Probably Farmers markets at first, or clubs like Spain
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you say illegal to sell, basically keeping the current prohibition on the sale of MJ. Removing the prohibition on growing and possessing is a step towards legalization because it removes stigma and barriers towards MJ use, basically putting it on the same footing as alcohol,

I don't see how your proposal enables Farmer's markets or clubs. Your proposal does not eliminate law enforcement. To maintain funding DEA and ATF agents need make arrests as well as generate revenue through fines and property confiscation. Any place where money exchanges hands to transfer MJ will be their target.
 
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ChesusRice

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ChesusRice said:
Spain doesn't allow it.
They just choose not to prosecute it. Which is the natural order of things. The beautiful thing about my idea is that it eventually leads to full legalization.
Probably Farmers markets at first, or clubs like Spain
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spandy said:
BWAHAHAHAA

Dude, no one is gonna grow a bunch of weed, and then give it away at a fucking farmers market. Those people are there to make money selling produce, not go broke giving it away.
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You don't really know how to read do you?
 
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ChesusRice

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Fogdog said:
you say illegal to sell, basically keeping the current prohibition on the sale of MJ. Removing the prohibition on growing and possessing is a step towards legalization because it removes stigma and barriers towards MJ use, basically putting it on the same footing as alcohol,

I don't see how your proposal enables Farmer's markets or clubs. Your proposal does not eliminate law enforcement. To maintain funding DEA and ATF agents need make arrests as well as generate revenue through fines and property confiscation. Any place where money exchanges hands to transfer MJ will be their target.
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I said eventually it will lead to sales.
I would like to reiterate. It is illegal to sell weed in Spain. But because of the way the law is, it is stopping no one. The big difference is no one is getting busted for it because now it is a low priority and not easy to prove
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Fogdog said:
What's dumb about his idea? Why would you oppose somebody freely growing their own?
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Reasonable question. I don't oppose people growing their own. I oppose any entity thinking they have the authority to prevent it or "regulate" it. Also, you used the term "freely" incorrectly. It's not "freely" if it is regulated.

Chesus proposed law is a step sideways and does not address the root problem of prohibition. The root problem is Prohibition advances the wrongful idea that we, as individuals do not own ourselves. I DO own myself though, so do you.

There is NO higher authority over me, (or you) than us as respective individuals as long as we leave others alone. Prohibition steals self ownership, blatantly. You don't solve that problem and regain self ownership by being granted "permission" , that is absurd.



A default position that "permission" must be granted by government to people in order to use cannabis is a step down the slippery slope. It continues a precedent that "rights" can be changed to revokable privileges.

Cannabis should be decriminalized, period.

No limits, no strings, no taxes, no nannys...Government should stay the fuck out of peoples lives.
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
How are all those government benefits working out for you in the prohibitionist state of Wisconsin, Prohibitionist ?

You forge your own chains, slave. Then complain when they cut your ankles. Your cognitive dissonance is thick, like your head.
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A thread for you to describe, define and defend your views and you wont even stand by your own ideas.
It seems like your only goal in life is to antagonize people
What a sick fuck you are.
Here Rob Go to your thread and blather on
https://www.rollitup.org/t/official-lolbertarian-thread-discuss-the-benefits-of-no-goverment.883433/

I dare you
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
A thread for you to describe, define and defend your views and you wont even stand by your own ideas.
It seems like your only goal in life is to antagonize people
What a sick fuck you are.
Here Rob Go to your thread and blather on
https://www.rollitup.org/t/official-lolbertarian-thread-discuss-the-benefits-of-no-goverment.883433/

I dare you
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I'm quite healthy. Just yesterday I carried 80 lbs of water a mile or so uphill in a backpack and in my hands.

It seems like your goal is to distract from defending your silly law prohibitionist law proposal, because I so thoroughly trounced your idea.

I have lots of goals in life, some of them have been met, some I'm still working on.

One question though, do you ride a Sportster because the other bikes are too big for you little fella?
 
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