Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

My issue is getting into a proper rhythm with composting. Either I have excess brown material and no green, or excess green material and no brown. Though I'm hoping to get a giant pile of leaf mold going this year. I'd like to at least stop buying peat and coco :P

I think bokashi and worm composting may be more up my alley.

hyroot said:
I got the 12 type of seeds mix from build a soil

Flax
Brown Clover
Yellow Sweet Clover
Duch Clover
Medium Red Clover
Crimson Lentils
Indainhead Safflower Hairy
Vetch Vetch
CommonRape
Dwarf Essex Buckwheat
Mancan Pea
Forage

I had to do a hard reset on my phone. So no pics on my phone. So I just grabbed a pic from my ig.
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I got the 15 seed blend last time. You won't be disappointed it blows up rather nicely. :P

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bicit said:
My issue is getting into a proper rhythm with composting. Either I have excess brown material and no green, or excess green material and no brown. Though I'm hoping to get a giant pile of leaf mold going this year. I'd like to at least stop buying peat and coco :P

I think bokashi and worm composting may be more up my alley.



I got the 15 seed blend last time. You won't be disappointed it blows up rather nicely. :P

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Looks like it has a lot more grasses than the 12 species blend, I like it!
 
Quick question. I'm in Michigan, Novi area for anyone that may be around me.

I can't seem to find straight compost anywhere for a reasonable price.

Lowe's and HD have compost +manure in one bag. I use them in my outdoor veggie garden without an issue.

Has anyone used these bags in their canna grows? I'm a bit leary of it being far too hot. I don't know how composted the manure is either.

Thanks!
 
smink13 said:
Quick question. I'm in Michigan, Novi area for anyone that may be around me.

I can't seem to find straight compost anywhere for a reasonable price.

Lowe's and HD have compost +manure in one bag. I use them in my outdoor veggie garden without an issue.

Has anyone used these bags in their canna grows? I'm a bit leary of it being far too hot. I don't know how composted the manure is either.

Thanks!
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On the page before this Stowandgrow mentioned a place outside of ann arbor that sells quality vermicompost. I would say the stuff in the bags would have to be composted enough, plus you're going to compost the soil you build anyway for 4-5 weeks. the real no tillers are staying away from manures in their beds it seems.
 
smink13 said:
Quick question. I'm in Michigan, Novi area for anyone that may be around me.

I can't seem to find straight compost anywhere for a reasonable price.

Lowe's and HD have compost +manure in one bag. I use them in my outdoor veggie garden without an issue.

Has anyone used these bags in their canna grows? I'm a bit leary of it being far too hot. I don't know how composted the manure is either.

Thanks!
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ShLUbY said:
On the page before this Stowandgrow mentioned a place outside of ann arbor that sells quality vermicompost. I would say the stuff in the bags would have to be composted enough, plus you're going to compost the soil you build anyway for 4-5 weeks. the real no tillers are staying away from manures in their beds it seems.
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Smink, I'm getting EWC from star valley in the middle of next week. want me to pick you up any?

I already have the compost we PMed about, but I figure if I'm making a trip out that way that I would extend the invitation for EWC as well.

Let me know if you're interested.
 
smink13 said:
Quick question. I'm in Michigan, Novi area for anyone that may be around me.

I can't seem to find straight compost anywhere for a reasonable price.

Lowe's and HD have compost +manure in one bag. I use them in my outdoor veggie garden without an issue.

Has anyone used these bags in their canna grows? I'm a bit leary of it being far too hot. I don't know how composted the manure is either.

Thanks!
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I would be real careful about any soil products bought from the big box stores. The vast majority, if not all, contain biosolids. Stay clear of anything made from Kellogg's, Scott's, Miracle Grow, etc.

My 2¢,

P-
 
st0wandgrow said:
Maybe I'm alone in thinking like this, but to me organics should be simple and inexpensive. There are no SST's, coconut water, etc in nature. It's all about the compost IMO. Get that right and the plants will excel in spite of whatever else it is we're doing.

Leaf mold/coco coir/peat, home made vermicompost, and the usual amendments. I don't see the need for anything beyond that. Not to say that the other stuff will hurt anything, I just don't find that the juice is worth the squeeze. I have 3 young kids, and I'm self employed. I really don't have the time to be brewing up teas and driving all over the place sourcing ingredients. Simple is what I'm after, and it seems to be working well.
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I agree wholeheartedly.
The last two runs I've done with nothing but an amended compost.
It's cool to know the ins and outs, but i'm trying to see what the bare minimum is to grow fantastic cannabis, and it seems like you are correct, the secret is a good quality humus source, that's fully active/alive.
So damn easy..
 
I've used ecoscraps, cedar grove, and various other brands of 'post consumer/food/forestry/garden waste' compost with good success for vegetables and otherwise. Definitely not as good as home brew compost, but it get's you started anyhow. Also if you're patient you can always put a pile of big box compost aside and let the worms process it for a few months. Adding in your own food/garden scraps as well.

An idea I've been considering myself. Though I wouldn't consider myself an expert or connoisseur by any means.
 
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smink13 said:
Quick question. I'm in Michigan, Novi area for anyone that may be around me.

I can't seem to find straight compost anywhere for a reasonable price.

Lowe's and HD have compost +manure in one bag. I use them in my outdoor veggie garden without an issue.

Has anyone used these bags in their canna grows? I'm a bit leary of it being far too hot. I don't know how composted the manure is either.

Thanks!
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If you're looking for inexpensive, Morgan Composting is a MI company and they sell a product called Dairy Doo. You can find it at the garden center (I forget the name of it) just north of Grand River on Haggerty.
 
st0wandgrow said:
If you're looking for inexpensive, Morgan Composting is a MI company and they sell a product called Dairy Doo. You can find it at the garden center (I forget the name of it) just north of Grand River on Haggerty.
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st0wandgrow said:
^Farmer Johns^ is the name of it I think. They sell the Dairy Doo compost for $7-$8 per cubic foot bag
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Never heard of them!

Gonna check it out next week.

I offered him 5gal of compost free, we'll see if he takes me up on it.

Thanks for the new place to visit, st0w. I'm going to see Jessie at start valley farms in the middle of next week, gonna pick up around 20 gal of EWC for me and a friend.
 
What brand of domolite line are you guys using? I just used the last of my garden lime yesterday and I want to get something else.
 
hyroot said:
Oyster shell flour and or gypsum powder. Dole lime is a waste of time and money. It won't be readily available for at least over a year. It takes that long to break down.

From keep it simple organics or build a soil.
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Are those both used for cal/mag and a ph buffer?
 
hyroot said:
Oyster shell flour and or gypsum powder. Dole lime is a waste of time and money. It won't be readily available for at least over a year. It takes that long to break down.

From keep it simple organics or build a soil.
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I second this, skip the dolo. It's sht. I'm still have Ca issues with my last batch of soil that I used it in (and didn't crush before hand) and its been about 10 months since I let it rest after mixing it up.

nvhak49 said:
Are those both used for cal/mag and a ph buffer?
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A good source of relatively long-term Ca would be egg shells. I take 25-100 shells depending on soil mass, bake half for a few hours on like 350, crush all of them with a mortar and pestle, then add to my initial mix. I use this in my gardens too.
 
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