Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Rrog said:
Myco is in the air we breathe. When roots show up, so do they. Why "inoculate?"
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so if i have a problem with my citrus tree or avocado tree i should disregard advice from arborists to innoculate ?? i should "trust the air" lol. to bring the needed phos and nitro fixing microbes in quantum growth light and glomulus ???
 
Scotch089 said:
What parts of marigolds and lambs quarters can I use to hang and dry for amendments? Stems, leaves, flowers....
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lambs quartes = all parts
marigolds tops for ground foliar at my house (if alot composted they really rock) , stems for top dressing and leaves for rabbit feed:)
now find some yarrow near that lambs quarters and make a tea for plants and yourself ...
 
Joedank said:
so if i have a problem with my citrus tree or avocado tree i should disregard advice from arborists to innoculate ?? i should "trust the air" lol. to bring the needed phos and nitro fixing microbes in quantum growth light and glomulus ???
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You can do whatever you like.
 
I been doing research but any extra info on using a 50/50 mix of coco coir and peat in the no till? The reviews on the subject has been all over the place. I am going to order some 7 gallon smart pots and give it a run and report back with my findings. I would do 10 gallon fabric pots but those things are huge. Lol. The other ladies are in those.
 
Rrog said:
Exactamundo
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Not sure if cover croppers have a problem with this. But I have found if I plant dutch white clover it attracts spider mites to my grow room. They always start on the clover. For anyone looking for a great alternative I recently switched to Yarrow and Roman chamomile as a cover crop/mulch/potency enhancer.

I have an idea of why they attract the mites. I hear people talking about how high nitrate levels in soil increases nitrate levels in leaves and can cause an increase in spider mites. I inoculated with nitrogen fixing bacteria when I planted and when I pulled the clover I had huge nodes on the roots and in the soil. I've had mite problems ever since clover and when I pulled it magically they ran. If anyone plants clover do you also have the nitrogen bacteria and/or mite problems? Would love to know why I had the troubles.
 
4ftRoots said:
Not sure if cover croppers have a problem with this. But I have found if I plant dutch white clover it attracts spider mites to my grow room. They always start on the clover. For anyone looking for a great alternative recently switched to Yarrow and Roman chamomile as a cover crop/mulch/potency enhancer.

I have an idea of why they attract the mites. I hear people talking about how high nitrate levels in soil increases nitrate levels in leaves and can cause an increase in spider mites. I inoculated with nitrogen fixing bacteria when I planted and when I pulled the clover I had huge nodes on the roots and in the soil. I've had mite problems ever since clover and when I pulled it magically they ran. If anyone plants clover do you also have the nitrogen bacteria and/or mite problems? Would love to know why I had the troubles.
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many folks plant leguems as a "canary in the coal mine" for mites .
its the trees and shrubs/ houseplants harboring them .
i use crimson clover to good effect . but i will try yarrow and chammomile as i have alot of wildcrafted seed . thanks fpr the tip .
i always see mites first on clover , if i lived in a apartment i would treat my house plants with neem if they can take it ..
i know you right about the "N" attracting pests but i am not sure if its nitrites or nitrates in the nodes..lol ... innocultion REALLY helped my legumes this year the uninnoculated patch yeiled 1/2 as much.....


Rrog said:
I always ran clover and never saw mites
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are you not cover cropping anymore ?? or no growing??
 
4ftRoots said:
Not sure if cover croppers have a problem with this. But I have found if I plant dutch white clover it attracts spider mites to my grow room. They always start on the clover. For anyone looking for a great alternative I recently switched to Yarrow and Roman chamomile as a cover crop/mulch/potency enhancer.

I have an idea of why they attract the mites. I hear people talking about how high nitrate levels in soil increases nitrate levels in leaves and can cause an increase in spider mites. I inoculated with nitrogen fixing bacteria when I planted and when I pulled the clover I had huge nodes on the roots and in the soil. I've had mite problems ever since clover and when I pulled it magically they ran. If anyone plants clover do you also have the nitrogen bacteria and/or mite problems? Would love to know why I had the troubles.
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My clovers in my aloe planters are dripping with those bastards. I've never needed neem oil until now. Never had it attract mites to cannabis planters heavy in neem and karanja meal though.
 
Rrog said:
Myco is in the air we breathe. When roots show up, so do they. Why "inoculate?"
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When you say myco, are you refering to mycorrhizae or just microbes in general? If you are referring to Mycorrhizae, I'd love to read about this.

Many thanks!

P-

Edit: the damn mites always go after my clover as well lol. Interesting enough, many times they never travel to the other plants. My tomato is mite free, the clover below it is covered. :(
 
Pattahabi said:
When you say myco, are you refering to mycorrhizae or just microbes in general? If you are referring to Mycorrhizae, I'd love to read about this.
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BIMs are in the air everywhere. Bacteria, fungus, etc. That's how we can isolate with a simple rice water bath. Little bastards just fall in and are activated because you have them a food and water source. They'll fall all over your soil and set up shop as well. It's inevitable and unavoidable.
 
Rrog said:
I always ran clover and never saw mites
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Your one lucky grower! I see them everywhere on clover. And even more frustrating the clover leaves act hydrophobic so getting a IPM spray down there is near impossible. Is yours innoculated? Care to pull a rhizome and check the nodules? :)
 
Midwest Weedist said:
My clovers in my aloe planters are dripping with those bastards. I've never needed neem oil until now. Never had it attract mites to cannabis planters heavy in neem and karanja meal though.
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I do notice if I topdress with neem or karanja they settle back into the clover patches. But after a week or two when the plant has used all the meals they hop right back up. It is great to see the neem and karanja do their thing on the pests though. Do you just live with the mites? Do you topdress heavy on the meals for keeping them at bay?
 
Pattahabi said:
When you say myco, are you refering to mycorrhizae or just microbes in general? If you are referring to Mycorrhizae, I'd love to read about this.

Many thanks!

P-

Edit: the damn mites always go after my clover as well lol. Interesting enough, many times they never travel to the other plants. My tomato is mite free, the clover below it is covered. :(
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Same experience with mites as long as the plants are happy and healthy. So I guess everyone has this problem with clover more or less.
 
Joedank said:
many folks plant leguems as a "canary in the coal mine" for mites .
its the trees and shrubs/ houseplants harboring them .
i use crimson clover to good effect . but i will try yarrow and chammomile as i have alot of wildcrafted seed . thanks fpr the tip .
i always see mites first on clover , if i lived in a apartment i would treat my house plants with neem if they can take it ..
i know you right about the "N" attracting pests but i am not sure if its nitrites or nitrates in the nodes..lol ... innocultion REALLY helped my legumes this year the uninnoculated patch yeiled 1/2 as much.....



are you not cover cropping anymore ?? or no growing??
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You wont regret the yarrow and chamomile. Not only do they help the plant with root exduates they also have beautiful aromas! I find myself smelling yarrow and chamomile more than I do my cannabis plants! lol

edit: you got me googling and it seems ammonium is in the nodules. It must be excess nitrogen in general that causes pests to come feast.
 
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