Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

OutofLEDCloset said:
I have a buddy who owns a brewery down here in S.D. Can i use the mash to top dress? Maybe a tea. Seems there would be a grip of enzymes in there. BTW really enjoy reading your posts and watching your videos.
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I use 6-row malted barley because it has the highest enzyme "count?" I grind it right before I use it and I get praying leaves :) which I love! I bet he has some high enzyme sprouts(get them with the sprout, more for your soil)!
 
Okay who here has ever used urine on their plants in veg? I havn't done it yet but it is all natural and free as hell so why not right?

I also found this on here with all the chemicals in your pee:

Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day
Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day
Biotin ..... 35 mg/day
Calcium ..... 23 mg/day
Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ..... 120 mg/day
Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day
Glucose ..... 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day
Glycine ..... 455 mg/day
Inositol ..... 14 mg/day
Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day
Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day
Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day
Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day
Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic ..... 9 mg/day
Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day
Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day

It is a lot of nitrogen which is why I only want to try for veg. But it could be used in smaller amounts (1:20-40) along with kelp for flowering as a good all around fertilizer (if you needed it). Anyone have experience with urine in rols?
 
As long as your not against putting non veganic amendments in your soil, i guess you could use pee. Just remember most people are not 100% healthy (or even close to it). If you think about it peeing and sweating are a way for your body to release toxins like from hardcore drugs, or prescriptions. If your a healthy person, i guess go for it! I have seen people on here try this i think thought.
 
I know this Rasta guy, he dumps kelp into a bucket and takes a slash or two into it, leaves it out to rot and do its thing, and dumps this into the holes a few weeks before planting along with some rotten fish heads. It is the only thing he ever feeds them and they are always taller than his roof, 2.5 to 3 kilos a plant.
 
I am going to give it a shot. I feel like I am noticing a deficiency in my plants coming on. Dang store bought castings... I'm going to dilute 25:1 and see how they do. I'll let everyone know
 
Whenever I have a fungal infection on my fruit trees, pissing at the base sorts them out. Rust on citeus in particular. If you can aim a little high and hit the leaves it literally washes rust right off. Think about it logically, what do plants get to eat most often? Dead plants, animal urine, animal excrement, and very very rarely by comparison decomposing animals. I'd saypiss is one of the planets main food sources?
 
Mad Hamish said:
I know this Rasta guy, he dumps kelp into a bucket and takes a slash or two into it, leaves it out to rot and do its thing, and dumps this into the holes a few weeks before planting along with some rotten fish heads. It is the only thing he ever feeds them and they are always taller than his roof, 2.5 to 3 kilos a plant.
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yes Sir!!! i Love that shit! Good Old Traditional Methods! The Best.!
 
Mad Hamish said:
Whenever I have a fungal infection on my fruit trees, pissing at the base sorts them out. Rust on citeus in particular. If you can aim a little high and hit the leaves it literally washes rust right off. Think about it logically, what do plants get to eat most often? Dead plants, animal urine, animal excrement, and very very rarely by comparison decomposing animals. I'd saypiss is one of the planets main food sources?
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very true! and i love the fungicide tip, thanks.!
 
Pattahabi said:
Lmao, Guppygal swears by it!

I don't understand why would you douse your plants with human waste? Are people that desperate for fertilizers? What's wrong with an alfalfa tea?

Baffled and confused...

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I got you strange method. Now your alfalfa tea seems ideal. Vegan and potent. What else do you add?
 
Pattahabi said:
Try this, add 1c alfalfa, 1/2c kelp meal, 5 gallons non chlorinated water and bubble for 24 hours. I use this straight, but I might dilute down 1:1 with water to start with just to make sure it's not too much.

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What brands do you use? Do you use it in veg and flower? I really would love to grow comfrey and use it for mulch and tea. Still researching to see if it does well in a smart pot.

I'm building my first ROLS soil. Going to try used Happy Frog, used coco, ancient forest, worm gold plus and BAS nutrient pack. Going to make a bed out of my 2x4 tray. Suggestions anyone?
 
OutofLEDCloset said:
What brands do you use? Do you use it in veg and flower? I really would love to grow comfrey and use it for mulch and tea. Still researching to see if it does well in a smart pot.

I'm building my first ROLS soil. Going to try used Happy Frog, used coco, ancient forest, worm gold plus and BAS nutrient pack. Going to make a bed out of my 2x4 tray. Suggestions anyone?
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Kelp meal is for the most part kelp meal (not liquid), look for Ascophyllum nodosum on the label and you should be good to go , alfalfa, make sure it is organic, or at least non sprayed.

Imo the true power in comfrey lies in it's ability to pull nutrients out of the earth with it's massive tap root. Therefore, while comfrey is great, growing it in a container isn't quite the same the way I see it.

I'm working on sugar coating things... those are not the base materials I would use. However, they will most likely result in a final product. I try to shoot for something like peat/aeration/high quality humus (aka ewc or vermicompost) between 33%/33%/33% and 50%/25%/25%. From there I add amendments such as kelp meal, crab meal, rock dust, neem, etc.

I think you will be happy going with a 2 x 4' bed!

Peace!
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Pattahabi said:
Lmao, Guppygal swears by it!

I don't understand why would you douse your plants with human waste? Are people that desperate for fertilizers? What's wrong with an alfalfa tea?

Baffled and confused...

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I have gotten used to organics not always being the most fragrant of practices, but urine is crossing a line to me personally. Once a year outside by a fruit tree or whatever, no hassle, but for any kind of container I shudder at the thought...EDIT: some of you guys might find this interesting, but you now get Spinosad in tablet form for your dogs. It keeps ticks and fleas off them for six weeks. Our Aussie has a flea allergy so it has been a helluva battle she can't handle one. In desperation I finally tried this stuff, man, is she a happy doggy. First time in her life her skin is perfect. Considering using it for our other dogs, keeping them clean can become a serious labor in summer...
 
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