LED LIGHTS THE ACTUAL TRUTH!

gk skunky

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youre cool man...

Its a discussion forum and we all cross swords every now and them....


go smoke some of that sweet herb you have grown and everything will be alright
Hey man you're cool and all. Also, I'm aware your avitar insinuates you are Michael Jackson. But..... We aren't crossing swords buddy! LOL
 

slitzer

Member
See what you guys started!
I'm was ready to pull the trigger on (2) A51-RW-150 for a 2x4 tent, now I'm confused again should I get (2) of the A51-XGS-190 all whites.
Crap! lol
 

spazatak

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See what you guys started!
I'm was ready to pull the trigger on (2) A51-RW-150 for a 2x4 tent, now I'm confused again should I get (2) of the A51-XGS-190 all whites.
Crap! lol
yeah man...Same here...Im thinking of waiting to see a grow or two with the new lights...
 

slitzer

Member
yeah man...Same here...Im thinking of waiting to see a grow or two with the new lights...
that was sarcasm! this argument will never be resolved I think. it will just move on to something else. I'm going with the RW-150's because I'm limited by height and you can get a little closer with the 150's.

and I'm sorry I cannot look at your avatar, that's just creepy! lol
 

Red1966

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I love how you make up so called claims. Not one person on here has ever said a 250w led equals a 1000w. Everyone has said 500-600w or 600-700 watts of led equal a 1000w. Now with that said. People should be pulling 2 lbs under 600w of led or a 1000w of hps. Or 1 pound with 310w of led or 600w of hps with high yielding strains and optimal environment of course. The cola captain showed ^^^^ came from just under a half pound yield from 190w of home depot Cree leds
The OP said "growing every 50W of light is about the same as 200W HPS. " which is pretty much the same thing.
 

hyroot

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imo what ever light has the highest cri rating will do best
The OP said "growing every 50W of light is about the same as 200W HPS. " which is pretty much the same thing.
the op said that. Just the op. Bones said if he hears one more person say that. As if everyone has been saying it. Bones has said the same exact thing in other threads ft prior. No one has ever said that except the op of this thread.
 

gk skunky

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Well I'm about to run my xgs with an rw 150 in a 2x3. About to blur the lines even more. But if I can at least double the last yield and get around 13oz all I could say is the rw performs as well as the xgs. But I pulled 6.5oz off the xgs so I know it works for sure.
 

spazatak

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that was sarcasm! this argument will never be resolved I think. it will just move on to something else. I'm going with the RW-150's because I'm limited by height and you can get a little closer with the 150's.

and I'm sorry I cannot look at your avatar, that's just creepy! lol
objective achieved.....lol


Man hurry up and get this grow diary going..

Im tossing1 up between a51, induction, hans and Apache.... although the A51 seems like the best deal for what they do in terms of price
 

Red1966

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imo what ever light has the highest cri rating will do best


the op said that. Just the op. Bones said if he hears one more person say that. As if everyone has been saying it. Bones has said the same exact thing in other threads ft prior. No one has ever said that except the op of this thread.
Well, maybe I'm nit picking, but you did say "Not one person on here has ever said ". I find this little "war" of LED vs. HID amusing. Clearly, LEDs can grow excellent shit, but the high initial cost is the stickler for most of us. I'm going to try a vertical tree grow next time around to keep plant count low to avoid a mandatory jail sentence. There doesn't seem to be any LEDs sold that would work in a vertical. Or at least none that I'm aware of.
 

hyroot

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Well, maybe I'm nit picking, but you did say "Not one person on here has ever said ". I find this little "war" of LED vs. HID amusing. Clearly, LEDs can grow excellent shit, but the high initial cost is the stickler for most of us. I'm going to try a vertical tree grow next time around to keep plant count low to avoid a mandatory jail sentence. There doesn't seem to be any LEDs sold that would work in a vertical. Or at least none that I'm aware of.
inda gro makes a vertical light called the vpar. I have one. Its not 360 degrees its 300 degree coverage on each side. CMH would be great for vert. The Philips elite agro or allstart line. Better than hps.
 

Jbone77

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Well, maybe I'm nit picking, but you did say "Not one person on here has ever said ". I find this little "war" of LED vs. HID amusing. Clearly, LEDs can grow excellent shit, but the high initial cost is the stickler for most of us. I'm going to try a vertical tree grow next time around to keep plant count low to avoid a mandatory jail sentence. There doesn't seem to be any LEDs sold that would work in a vertical. Or at least none that I'm aware of.
there is the benefit of hid, a bare bulb vert hid grow will destroy any light made, id like to see a stackable led tube with 3 watters that runs similar to a cool tube, I think that would be the shit.
 

Red1966

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inda gro makes a vertical light called the vpar. I have one. Its not 360 degrees its 300 degree coverage on each side. CMH would be great for vert. The Philips elite agro or allstart line. Better than hps.
Thanks for the tip. I'll look them up.
 

hyroot

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there is the benefit of hid, a bare bulb vert hid grow will destroy any light made, id like to see a stackable led tube with 3 watters that runs similar to a cool tube, I think that would be the shit.
I've looked into that. It would have to be 1 watt leds driven at 50% at most because of cooling. It would have to be multiple bulbs per one vert. Cree makes some street lights in a vertical fashion that could possibly work. They use x-te's too. I posted a pic and link to that light in my first induction thread.
 

Jbone77

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I've looked into that. It would have to be 1 watt leds driven at 50% at most because of cooling. It would have to be multiple bulbs per one vert. Cree makes some street lights in a vertical fashion that could possibly work. They use x-te's too. I posted a pic and link to that light in my first induction thread.
yeah im workin on my first diy led run now so I dont actually know shit, but my vision of my ideal vert led has me thinking, maybe it needs to be 1 watters, I dunno but the idea is limitless, nothing would touch that rig imho
 

PetFlora

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See what you guys started!
I'm was ready to pull the trigger on (2) A51-RW-150 for a 2x4 tent, now I'm confused again should I get (2) of the A51-XGS-190 all whites.
Crap! lol

White light in and of itself is not THE answer.

It depends on the phosphor blend. Now, the new concept of mixing nano-particles into the protective covers might well be a huge addition

I do think you can bud under current whites, where WW is ~ 40%, or the NW has a broad WW spectrum covering 630 and some 650
 

PetFlora

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that was sarcasm! this argument will never be resolved I think. it will just move on to something else. I'm going with the RW-150's because I'm limited by height and you can get a little closer with the 150's.

and I'm sorry I cannot look at your avatar, that's just creepy! lol
Consider BML light bars. Oslon 3w, passive cooling

I am using 2 X 3ft now to supplement my 2 white ufo90s (3500/5000)


See my thread for pics
 

CannaBare

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there is the benefit of hid, a bare bulb vert hid grow will destroy any light made, id like to see a stackable led tube with 3 watters that runs similar to a cool tube, I think that would be the shit.
In my personal opinion that does not make any sense! The reason people run HID vert in the first place is because the light is spread in 360 degrees. With LED it is all directed within the beam angle. Making a vert LED light is a waste of money. I think someone has made one already too. Way to expensive and IMO you could buy a HID and kill it.
HID was made for vert!
LED was made for horizontal!
 

PetFlora

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LED lights are available where the diode bars are hex shape- providing 360* light

No idea where else to post this...

LED News Letter:

Lunera Lighting has introduced LED replacement bulbs that operate directly from existing ballasts. The Susan lamps specifically target the replacement of 400W, 250W and 175W metal halide bulbs.
 
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