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desert dude

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there is something distinctly racist about assigning that attitude along racial lines, since many in the white community also shun education.
Not every black person shuns education. Ben Carson is a contrary example. You don't have to take my word for the problems in the black community, though. You could read and accept the same diagnosis from any number of African Americans: Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell, Ben Carson, et al. They lived it, so their word trumps yours.
 

UncleBuck

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You have the typical bleeding heart limousine liberal stance and knowledge about race relations. You don't know the first thing about it. You don't know any black people. You grew up in some leafy, white suburb and your high school had AP classes. So naturally, you are the expert on the black experience. You have been duped by the poverty pimps, and you are just too loving, and stupid, to realize that Jackson and Sharpton are in it for themselves.
since you clearly are the expert on black culture and i clearly don't know any of the black people i know, then why don't you elaborate a bit on your implication that i asked you about instead of simply telling more lies about me and bemoaning "poverty pimps".
 

UncleBuck

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Not every black person shuns education. Ben Carson is a contrary example. You don't have to take my word for the problems in the black community, though. You could read and accept the same diagnosis from any number of African Americans: Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell, Ben Carson, et al. They lived it, so their word trumps yours.
ben carson is a product of welfare and affirmative action that you hate so much.
 

greentrip

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"I suspect some people say, no, no, no, you benefit from affirmative action, it has to stay the same forever and ever. Of course, you have people say. But it's only because they are trying to make sure that they ensure an advantage for themselves or their constituency. What we need to start moving toward here in America is a situation where we actually treat everybody the same. Liberty and justice for all"-Ben Carson
 

theexpress

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Not every black person shuns education. Ben Carson is a contrary example. You don't have to take my word for the problems in the black community, though. You could read and accept the same diagnosis from any number of African Americans: Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell, Ben Carson, et al. They lived it, so their word trumps yours.
bill cosby is racist has fuck... only thing black about buddy is his skin [youtube]kGqlrVmVULc[/youtube]
 

Flaming Pie

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bill cosby is racist has fuck... only thing black about buddy is his skin [youtube]kGqlrVmVULc[/youtube]
I didn't see anything racist about that video.

He pointed out things he had heard and had seen that DISTURBED him. Really it can apply to any color skin.
 

UncleBuck

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I didn't see anything racist about that video.

He pointed out things he had heard and had seen that DISTURBED him. Really it can apply to any color skin.
the title alone is simply retarded.

"blacks are screwed by no one else but themselves"

you'd have to ignore an awful lot of facts about our country to believe that's true.
 

twostrokenut

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Please stall more.

If you just say sowell is a hack, that's one thing.
But you didn't at first till I pointed out your racist response to the theory.
 

UncleBuck

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Please stall more.

If you just say sowell is a hack, that's one thing.
But you didn't at first till I pointed out your racist response to the theory.
i'm not stalling, your posts are simply incomprehensible.

try making citation or reference to whatever the hell you are talking about.
 

desert dude

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ben carson is a product of welfare and affirmative action that you hate so much.
You are wrong about what I think. As usual.

I do hate race-based affirmative action. I have no problem with financial aid for kids who grew up in poverty. I have no problem with extra help for kids who grew up in poverty. The problem with affirmative action as currently practiced is that it is just a racial spoils program and just as reprehensible as Jim Crow. Current affirmative action practices favors upper class black kids, because of the melanin in their skin, over impoverished white kids because of their relative lack of melanin. Let's not even consider the sort of discrimination that is practiced against Asians. The fact that you are such an ardent supporter of affirmative action is why I have concluded that you are the worst sort of racist. One hundred years ago, you would have been the one throwing the rope over the tree limb and gleefully hanging some poor black guy.

I don't hate welfare. I do hate what welfare has done to poor people. The nuclear family has virtually ceased to exist in the black community because of welfare. Befoer about 1960 or so, black nuclear families were the norm. Since the great society programs, the black nuclear family has nearly disappeared. Welfare has been hijacked by progressives because it has allowed the prog elites to control the votes in poor communities. Progressives don't give two shits about the black community, they only want the power, prestige and money that comes from that reliable voting block. That progressive elites have managed to instill a sense of guilt and shame into a significant portion of white voters, like you, who don't know the first thing about the black community or it seems about human nature in general is a wonderment to me. Welfare should not be structured so as to destroy families by driving fathers from the household. Welfare should not be structured so as to make grown people perpetual wards of the state.

Here is Ben Carson talking about the sort of affirmative action that I support:

The real question is this: Who should receive extra consideration from a nation that has a tradition of cheering for the underdog? My answer to that question may surprise many, but I don't believe race determines underdog status today. Rather, it is the circumstances of one's life that should be considered.


For example, let's take a child who is a member of a racial minority with parents who are successful professionals who have given their child every imaginable advantage. The child applies to a prestigious university with a 3.95 grade-point average, excellent SAT scores and a great record of community service. This child would obviously be an excellent candidate for admission.


Let's take another child who is white, but whose father is incarcerated and whose mother is an alcoholic. Despite these disadvantages, the child still has a 3.7 grade-point average, very good SAT scores and a resume that includes several low-paying jobs. Without taking any other factors into consideration, the choice is clear: The first student would be admitted over the second.


However, I think extra consideration should go to the second child, who has clearly demonstrated the tenacity and determination to succeed in the face of daunting odds. If that second child happens to be a member of a racial minority, obviously he would receive the extra consideration, as well.

I call this "compassionate action." Such a strategy demonstrates sensitivity and compassion, as well as recognition of substantial achievement in the face of difficult obstacles. The groups who benefit from compassionate action will probably change over time, depending on which ones have the greatest number of obstacles to overcome. The point is, it's time to be more concerned about the content of character than the color of skin when extending extra consideration.


http://townhall.com/columnists/drbencarson/2014/02/19/beyond-affirmative-action-n1796992/page/full

After reading Dr. Carson's article, I have to conclude he knows a great deal more about human nature and fairness than you ever will. But please don't let this simple response deter you from calling me names. That is, after all, the only thing you have to offer in the discussion.
 

desert dude

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What notorious racist said the following? “Fewer young black and Latino men participate in the labor force compared to young white men. And all of this translates into higher unemployment rates and poverty rates as adults.”


“In troubled neighborhoods all across this country—many of them heavily African American—too few of our citizens have role models to guide them.”


“We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households…. We know the statistics—that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of school and twenty times more likely to end up in prison.”



“We know young black men are twice as likely as young white men to be ‘disconnected’—not in school, not working.”


As you might guess, Paul Ryan said none of these things. Barack Obama did—in heartfelt speeches at a Chicago church in 2008, at Morehouse College in 2013 and at the White House a few weeks ago.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/paul-ryan-not-a-racist-104833.html?hp=l1#.UyrVFvldWSo

Barack Obama is a racist who hates black people. amiright, Buck?
 

Doer

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What notorious racist said the following? “Fewer young black and Latino men participate in the labor force compared to young white men. And all of this translates into higher unemployment rates and poverty rates as adults.”


“In troubled neighborhoods all across this country—many of them heavily African American—too few of our citizens have role models to guide them.”


“We know that more than half of all black children live in single-parent households…. We know the statistics—that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of school and twenty times more likely to end up in prison.”



“We know young black men are twice as likely as young white men to be ‘disconnected’—not in school, not working.”


As you might guess, Paul Ryan said none of these things. Barack Obama did—in heartfelt speeches at a Chicago church in 2008, at Morehouse College in 2013 and at the White House a few weeks ago.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/paul-ryan-not-a-racist-104833.html?hp=l1#.UyrVFvldWSo

Barack Obama is a racist who hates black people. amiright, Buck?
How can all that be racist?
 

BigNBushy

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you have claimed, and i quote, that blacks are from "an inferior lot".

now remind me again, what is the opposite of inferior?
I sad that, and a few other things that are now sigs in off the cuff, intentionally inflammatory and exaggeratory responses. I have remained fairly consistent otherwise.
 
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