Who thinks they are NOT a slave....think again...you are

schuylaar

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So have fun....slaves.


You Are a Slave

January 21st, 2014 Submitted by Daniel Hawkins
To those unfamiliar with the libertarian-anarchist world, this is probably a jarring headline. I’m not a slave, you may think, I don’t have a master. I don’t work for free. I don’t get whipped. I own property. I am free. Libertarians and anarchists take heat for using the word “slave.” It’s not a light word to throw around, either. I agree. Slavery is very serious. To clarify, though, I’m not talking about chattel slavery. Chattel slavery is a horrific blight on the human race. It’s reasonable to interpret the use of the word as crass or naive. But not being bound by chains or ropes, and living in a nice house with nice amenities, and voting, and thinking you own yourself, does not mean you are not a slave. It’s not the physical condition of slavery that makes it slavery. Slavery is the denial of self-determination.
In the 1880s, former slave John Parker wrote that “[brutality] was an incident to the curse, but the real injury was the making of a human being an animal without hope.” While the pain and savagery of chattel slavery were inflicted on people, those were additional injustices
(brutality pain savagery) to the state of being owned . The definition of slavery from Oxford Dictionary is:
“a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.”
chattel slavery definition



Now that we have the definition (of chattel slavery), let’s test my claim.
didn't you just say that is is not about chattel slavery?

Do you work for free? Most people think this is one of the main characteristics of slavery. Historically, this is only partially true. Not only were there servants and house-slaves that were allowed a pretty high standard of living, but even those who worked the fields were paid in shelter, food, and clothing. Slaves with greater skills were even allowed a meager wage to spend when they were allowed to go to
in between beatings, rapings and brandings from those in the "big" house.
town. If

being denied 100% of your labor makes you a slave, at what percentage are you no longer a slave? Today we pay taxes. While we may keep a large portion of our income, we do not keep all of it. When you file your taxes, take into account not only your income taxes, but sales tax, gasoline tax, sin tax, and every other tax imaginable, and you’re likely to have something close to a 50% tax burden. Make sure to remember that you may never see the products of your taxes in your community, since much of it goes to paying off debt and fighting wars. If you only own half of your labor, then you are a slave.
Do you get whipped or bound? To answer this question, we have to look at why slaves were whipped and bound. Firstly, it was a punishment. But really, it was to intimidate other slaves. It’s very important to understand that on the average plantation the proportion of slaves to non-slaves was at least five-to-one. So, it was necessary (in the mind of a slave-holder) to intimidate the slaves in order to prevent an uprising. To illustrate that we can compare chattel slavery to citizenship, keep in mind you are bound in a much more intelligent fashion. 5,000 innocent Americans were killed by police in the last 13 years. You’ve probably heard about the mass-surveillance and government intrusion into our privacy, as well as assassination and kidnapping of innocent individuals. While the purpose of this brutality on the part of State officials may not be to intimidate or control us, the effect has certainly been achieved. Consider those along with the Patriot Act and the NDAA, and you have a powerful recipe for rule by fear.
Do you own your property? The short answer is no. You probably didn’t build your house, but even if you did, the land at some point belonged to the government. The builders obtained permission from the government to even begin building. And even after all this, you still pay property taxes. As for other property, you pay sales taxes when you purchase it. You probably pay taxes on vehicles and most other things. So, if we apply the same logic to property as we did to income, if you do not own it entirely, is it really yours? No. You are borrowing your house and your property from the government. If you do not pay your taxes, the State will “re-possess” your property, implying that the State possessed it first. The government assumes you are only renting your property from them. You do not own it. You have never owned it.
Here’s the most important question: do you own yourself? A slave, by definition, is the legal property of someone else. If you were born, you are a citizen of the country you were born in. The “social contract” is said to be an implicit agreement all citizens make when they are born to follow that country’s laws, and prostrate themselves before the authority of the State. It is sometimes argued that voting gives you a voice in the political process, and you are therefore autonomous. That is not true. A slave who can pick a master is still a slave. Ask yourself these questions: Can you renounce your citizenship and still own property in your country? Can you renounce your citizenship and still trade in your country? Most importantly, can you ignore the law? No. The government suffocates any hope for true free will, even regarding victimless crimes, because a slaveholder must deny the self-determination of their slaves, or else they aren’t slaves. You are subject to the will of the State. You are not your master.
To conclude, there are a lot of noticeable differences between chattel slavery and modern slavery. Those differences afford us much more safety and comfort, but this is an evolution in slavery, not freedom. The chains are invisible, which makes today’s slavery much more effective. We are regarded by the State as livestock to supply the master with money. A “free range” tax cow. We are given a degree of freedom that chattel slaves were not, because being cramped and locked up drops the productivity of the livestock, due to sickness and depression. Taking livestock to pasture benefits the farmer. Occasionally an animal will run off, but if you set up enough punishment, and you give your animals a comfortable cage, they will return.
Today, the average citizen thinks life is good overall, and that the system is necessary. In reality, humans are manipulated by the State, allowed to choose their occupation, to think they own property, and to feel free, so they will pay more taxes. So, the next time you say, “I’m not a slave,” look around you. This is serious.
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Doer

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Anything you don't agree with you label a "religion". Another word you don't understand.

Argue the substance if you've got anything to say


@ Buck, the traditional "slave" is not the definition that is being used in the article, the author even mentions that near the top
You don't even know what a slave is. Cut yer ball bag, whip you till you can't stand and have someone shit in your mouth.

That is slavery and you remain a self righteous punk.
 

BigNBushy

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NSA surveillance isn't tyranny. A law making it mandatory to purchase private insurance isn't tyranny. The NDAA most certainly isn't tyranny. Guantanamo Bay remaining open despite explicit promises to close it is not tyranny. Blaming congress for things that the executive branch has power over isn't tyranny. Waging a drug war isn't tyranny. Waging multiple drone wars isn't tyranny. Threatening to impose Hillary Clinton on us isn't tyranny.


Oh wait, actually all those things are tyranny.
Buck says requiring ID to vote is tyranny because some folks cant afford an ID. An ID costs $20 for 5 or so years of coverage. My obamacare plan is $130 a month. Which costs more?
 

canndo

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NSA surveillance isn't tyranny. A law making it mandatory to purchase private insurance isn't tyranny. The NDAA most certainly isn't tyranny. Guantanamo Bay remaining open despite explicit promises to close it is not tyranny. Blaming congress for things that the executive branch has power over isn't tyranny. Waging a drug war isn't tyranny. Waging multiple drone wars isn't tyranny. Threatening to impose Hillary Clinton on us isn't tyranny.


Oh wait, actually all those things are tyranny.
you neglect to mention flooding the gulf with oil, poisoning the water supply for hundreds of thousands in W VA, massive explosions because the company wasn't inspected and couldn't be trusted to govern itself, pumping enough liquids into the ground to cause earthquakes. Causing entire neighborhoods, who exhibit cancer clusters in children to move away. You forgot excision of people who health insurance simply didn't want to pay for any more and found some rediculous excuse while still paying the CEO tens of millions year.

You forgot those tyrannical acts - conveniently because to you the only source of tyranny is your view of government
 

canndo

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Buck says requiring ID to vote is tyranny because some folks cant afford an ID. An ID costs $20 for 5 or so years of coverage. My obamacare plan is $130 a month. Which costs more?

When you get cancer or chronic heart disease you will pretty much figure that the 130 bucks was pretty well spent, which costs more? a $280,000 heart operation or your $130 bucks a month?
 

Doer

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When you get cancer or chronic heart disease you will pretty much figure that the 130 bucks was pretty well spent, which costs more? a $280,000 heart operation or your $130 bucks a month?
I agree with that. It is hard to understand when someone is in that state, I call, Delicious Immortality. I have paid in a lot more than $130/month over a lifetime of work, but it still doesn't equal the $Million+, I've needed in Health Care.

The problem here is one they won't talk about for some reason. The "self insured" 20 something, needs preventive care, he will not pay for. But, he will take it if he was taxed not to have it...in theory, but too soon to tell. Also, this fellow will not usually need anything....he thinks..but he is blind to statistics being so young and stupid.

Actually, an injury to these "self insured" means suddenly they are not. They cannot afford it. They become a burden in some way. I saw that the first time I left the emergency room for a bad sprain and a killer bill. It wiped me out. I could not even pay the rent. I was too stupid not to pay the bill.

But, when you get that heart attack, cancer, or any of the real problems, the Delicious Immortality is over. That changes the way you look at it.

So, what are the statistics of those self employed, 20 somethings? How often do they, fall down, fall off, get smashed, get hammered, beat up, wreaked, shot, cut, blown up or burned and generally stop having a good day?

I bet it is more than we think.

And this is why we carry them on their parents until 25 if necessary. Until I was 25, I did not have a checking account, much less, insurance. A Che-ist don' need no stinkin' check account. Later on, I saw the value of having it, to get money for drugs, and not have it stolen by room mates.

But, I was a walking, talking danger to myself and others.

What they called, Wild....a wild, freaky hippie. Or, if you will, what we called ourselves.

The Freeks.
 

ChesusRice

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Buck says requiring ID to vote is tyranny because some folks cant afford an ID. An ID costs $20 for 5 or so years of coverage. My obamacare plan is $130 a month. Which costs more?
You not having insurance or a way to cover any major medical expenses costs more.
Maybe not to you but for the rest of us who arent freeloaders it does
 

Doer

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Buck says requiring ID to vote is tyranny because some folks cant afford an ID. An ID costs $20 for 5 or so years of coverage. My obamacare plan is $130 a month. Which costs more?
Did you know that 20 dollars is an awful lot of money? So, 20 - 80 years old, say, 60 years of voting. Divide by 5 = 12 x 20 = $240 lifetime poll tax.

Some would prefer to get a cheap pair of sturdy shoes every 5 years. And, I think everyone can stop pretending. Tyranny? Tax is not tyranny.

Using fees to stop low income voting is tyranny. Ask yourself this. If it was so important, they could issue these for free. But, States don't propose that? Why not?

Think about it.
 

schuylaar

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Did you know that 20 dollars is an awful lot of money? So, 20 - 80 years old, say, 60 years of voting. Divide by 5 = 12 x 20 = $240 lifetime poll tax.

Some would prefer to get a cheap pair of sturdy shoes every 5 years. And, I think everyone can stop pretending. Tyranny? Tax is not tyranny.

Using fees to stop low income voting is tyranny. Ask yourself this. If it was so important, they could issue these for free. But, States don't propose that? Why not?

Think about it.


standing o:clap:

lest we forget?

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canndo

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where did all the righties go? beenthere, BNB, twostroke..where is everyone?


:lol:
They do as they always do, compartmentalize and forget so that later they can use the very same arguments and again demand proof of your assertions to the contrary.
 

abandonconflict

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you neglect to mention flooding the gulf with oil, poisoning the water supply for hundreds of thousands in W VA, massive explosions because the company wasn't inspected and couldn't be trusted to govern itself, pumping enough liquids into the ground to cause earthquakes. Causing entire neighborhoods, who exhibit cancer clusters in children to move away. You forgot excision of people who health insurance simply didn't want to pay for any more and found some rediculous excuse while still paying the CEO tens of millions year.

You forgot those tyrannical acts - conveniently because to you the only source of tyranny is your view of government
The government exists to serve the ruling class and protect private property.

I neglected to mention those because I was responding to Cheesie's retarded meme. Don't mistake me for a capitalist.
 
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