WWW III has started

malignant said:
that kind of complacency led to a country standing by while their leaders systemically, and efficiently exterminated more than 6,000,000 people. oh yeah, those same families are the richest families in america.. if you left the nazi regime with a fortune america's government will welcome you with open arms.
Click to expand...

you're trying to compare not supporting ron paul to the holocaust?

malignant said:
we'll see if america still exists in 10 years.
Click to expand...

i'll bet the house and farm on yes. i'll make the same wager if we say 100 years, too.

but i understand how certain people get their rocks off on constantly predicting doomsday scenarios. one day, you might just be right, and won't that be a special day. you'll actually feel smart for once.
 
malignant said:
there aren't many people i actually hate, he's the only one i didn't have to meet in order to feel that way.
Click to expand...

you just hate the fact that i call you out when you spout your hyperbolic bullshit.

sorry about that. i don't like chicken littles and conspiracy freaks.
 
What I find funny is the government's vaccine psa website says non-vaccinated children spread diseases to the vaccinated ones. So how does this work? A child who got vaccinated against polio gets it. But since the child got vaccinated, it only spreads to those who never got vaccinated or it stops it period? My guess is a vaccinated child can get it from another vaccinated child too. Now on top of the vaccine not preventing the disease, it can cause a reaction and the child dies of the shot. I see vaccines as latex condoms with holes. Not only do they not work right, but you can get a latex reaction too.
 
Uncle Buck has many valid and rational points. Ron Paul is an extreme candidate.

Unfortunatley we are in extreme times and the data on this primarily blood red page of death poves it:http://www.usdebtclock.org/

While I do not agree with a significant amount of Ron Pauls policies I will be voting RP. I agree whole heartedly on some very key issues.

End all foreign wars at all costs immediatley
Give the money printing press back to the people so it works for them rather than against them
Shrink government immediatley INCLUDING Defense.
End Drug War

Theres a few others but theres really no need to go on.

We do need to hit the reset button. If we don't hit it ourselves then someone else is going to at a point in time when it suits their needs best.

Italy is slightly ahead of us in the economic whirlpool. A non-democratically elected, technocratic, ex-Goldman Sachs, Dictator was installed to rule the country and run it's finances. This government is now considering an offer from the IMF to forefeit all of its centuries old gold reserves in exchange for exactly the amount of debt they owe.

A fun national news article today:

at 10:46amDetention

Senators Demand the Military Lock Up American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window

ndaa.jpg



While nearly all Americans head to family and friends to celebrate Thanksgiving, the Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself.
Senators need to hear from you, on whether you think your front yard is part of a “battlefield” and if any president can send the military anywhere in the world to imprison civilians without charge or trial.
The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself.
The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill was drafted in secret by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing.
I know it sounds incredible. New powers to use the military worldwide, even within the United States? Hasn’t anyone told the Senate that Osama bin Laden is dead, that the president is pulling all of the combat troops out of Iraq and trying to figure out how to get combat troops out of Afghanistan too? And American citizens and people picked up on American or Canadian or British streets being sent to military prisons indefinitely without even being charged with a crime. Really? Does anyone think this is a good idea? And why now?
The answer on why now is nothing more than election season politics. The White House, the Secretary of Defense, and the Attorney General have all said that the indefinite detention provisions in the National Defense Authorization Act are harmful and counterproductive. The White House has even threatened a veto. But Senate politics has propelled this bad legislation to the Senate floor.
But there is a way to stop this dangerous legislation. Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) is offering the Udall Amendment that will delete the harmful provisions and replace them with a requirement for an orderly Congressional review of detention power. The Udall Amendment will make sure that the bill matches up with American values.
In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.”
The solution is the Udall Amendment; a way for the Senate to say no to indefinite detention without charge or trial anywhere in the world where any president decides to use the military. Instead of simply going along with a bill that was drafted in secret and is being jammed through the Senate, the Udall Amendment deletes the provisions and sets up an orderly review of detention power. It tries to take the politics out and put American values back in.
In response to proponents of the indefinite detention legislation who contend that the bill “applies to American citizens and designates the world as the battlefield,” and that the “heart of the issue is whether or not the United States is part of the battlefield,” Sen. Udall disagrees, and says that we can win this fight without worldwide war and worldwide indefinite detention.
The senators pushing the indefinite detention proposal have made their goals very clear that they want an okay for a worldwide military battlefield, that even extends to your hometown. That is an extreme position that will forever change our country.
Now is the time to stop this bad idea. Please urge your senators to vote YES on the Udall Amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act.
UPDATE: Don’t be confused by anyone claiming that the indefinite detention legislation does not apply to American citizens. It does. There is an exemption for American citizens from the mandatory detention requirement (section 1032 of the bill), but no exemption for American citizens from the authorization to use the military to indefinitely detain people without charge or trial (section 1013 of the bill). So, the result is that, under the bill, the military has the power to indefinitely imprison American citizens, but it does not have to use its power unless ordered to do so.
But you don’t have to believe us. Instead, read what one of the bill’s sponsors, Sen. Lindsey Graham said about it on the Senate floor: “1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland.”
There you have it — indefinite military detention of American citizens without charge or trial. And the Senate is likely to vote on it Monday or Tuesday.
Learn more about detention: Sign up for breaking news alerts, follow us on Twitter, and like us on Facebook.

 
Canna Sylvan said:
What I find funny is the government's vaccine psa website says non-vaccinated children spread diseases to the vaccinated ones. So how does this work? A child who got vaccinated against polio gets it. But since the child got vaccinated, it only spreads to those who never got vaccinated or it stops it period? My guess is a vaccinated child can get it from another vaccinated child too. Now on top of the vaccine not preventing the disease, it can cause a reaction and the child dies of the shot. I see vaccines as latex condoms with holes. Not only do they not work right, but you can get a latex reaction too.
Click to expand...
Vaccinations aren't a magic bullet but they are VERY effective at controlling and preventing the spread of disease. No, a vaccination will not prevent a disease in every instance but they do work. Unfortunately, you can have a reaction, but these reactions are usually mild and severe ones are pretty rare. Much isn't understood about what causes reactions but it could be any number of things such as allergies to vaccine components. I'm a big fan of vaccines since I've been to numerous 3rd world shitholes and seen what polio or small pox looks like. It ain't pretty.:o
 
Canna Sylvan said:
What I find funny is the government's vaccine psa website says non-vaccinated children spread diseases to the vaccinated ones. So how does this work? A child who got vaccinated against polio gets it. But since the child got vaccinated, it only spreads to those who never got vaccinated or it stops it period? My guess is a vaccinated child can get it from another vaccinated child too. Now on top of the vaccine not preventing the disease, it can cause a reaction and the child dies of the shot. I see vaccines as latex condoms with holes. Not only do they not work right, but you can get a latex reaction too.
Click to expand...
Apparently the Government doesn't understand what immunization does. No worries, its a well known fact that the bottom 25% of students end up working for the government , so it should be no surprise that they act like morons.
 
...you guys think that one person elected will change the world. It's funny that most people don't even realize that they were left with the same (or less) change than what they had before the political messiah came around.

CHANGE - is all you will be left with. Again.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

QUAD BREATH
The Geopolitics of Afghani Hash
2 3
Replies
54
Views
7K
QUAD BREATH
QUAD BREATH
Jimdamick
Assad, Russia, China, Iran and Hezbollah win, Trump loses
Replies
13
Views
760
ttystikk
ttystikk
S
CHINA SYNDROME
2
Replies
20
Views
2K
ttystikk
ttystikk
The Ruiner
World Peace Could Be Closer Than You Think...
2
Replies
21
Views
2K
The Ruiner
The Ruiner
DrFever
who really is the super power in the world
Replies
7
Views
824
VER D
VER D
Back
Top