Roger A. Shrubber
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Pres. Flake.....that's what the nation needs......
Will Creepy Joe run in 2020?
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Fogdog
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This nation doesn't need a conservative running the country.
His voting record has quite a few blights in it. Like anti-abortion and voted for the tax cut for the rich.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/jeff-flake/
His voting record has quite a few blights in it. Like anti-abortion and voted for the tax cut for the rich.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/jeff-flake/
trippnface
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This is particularly funny.
The ones that voted "no" are the serious liberals, because serious liberals know joe biden stands zero chance of winning the presidency. Therefore, liberals won't support someone they know won't win.
the people that said " yes" must be republicans, because only a republican would want biden to run. Republicans know biden is another neolib loser that will definitely lose. So if you voted yes on biden, you definitely agree more with the GOP than you do us liberals...
The ones that voted "no" are the serious liberals, because serious liberals know joe biden stands zero chance of winning the presidency. Therefore, liberals won't support someone they know won't win.
the people that said " yes" must be republicans, because only a republican would want biden to run. Republicans know biden is another neolib loser that will definitely lose. So if you voted yes on biden, you definitely agree more with the GOP than you do us liberals...
see4
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Pedowan, tinystick and flaps McGee are telling me that my thoughts are "irrelevant to fact". That's rich.
I've heard a lot of stupid shit this past week, but that takes the care. Thanks for the laugh.
Padawanbater2
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"Keep blaming women"
Nobody takes that nonsense seriously. Not even you. It's a tactic devised by Democratic strategists to avoid discussing the legitimate economic problems that actually matter. That's why the Democratic party lost more than 1,000 seats during Obama's administration. Supporting a woman's right to choose, supporting LGBT rights, supporting equal pay are all great, but you don't support medicare for all, a living wage, regulating Wall Street, legalizing drugs, getting out of offensive wars across the globe and reigning in the military budget, building a more efficient, renewable energy grid, rebuilding American infrastructure, getting rid of the for profit private prison industry and predatory payday loans, etc.
10 Senate Democrats just signed onto the Republican bill that deregulates Wall Street even further, all of them are the corporate establishment Democrats people like you and Buck seem to unanimously support. So the 10 moderate Democrats are going to vote along conservative lines and ensure we're on the fast track to another government bailout funded by the American taxpayers
ttystikk
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Exactly.
And all the usual names will line up and say stupid shit like, 'but it's just ten Democrats!' and, 'it's not the whole party!' like somehow that makes any difference at all.
Americans have seen through the lies and they're showing up in increasing numbers to vote- for progressives.
ttystikk
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Just in case anyone thinks that it's just a few rogue Democrats helping Republicans cut taxes on the rich, here's an article about how state level Dems are doing the same thing;
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/democrats-push-cut-taxes-wealthy/
Seems like a pattern to me.
Fogdog
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I don't think Joe is going to run.
As usual, tty doesn't understand the issue that article he posted a link to is talking about.
The issue was caused by Republicans capping state and local tax deductions on federal income taxes at $10,000. States with high land values have really high property tax revenue. The cap placed on federal deductions squeezes people in some areas in those states. Intentionally so. California land values are ridiculously high in some areas and this change in deduction laws makes a difference for people with relatively modest income in areas like the Bay Area, San Diego and Los Angeles to be able to make payments. This isn't about tax cuts for the wealthy it's about middle class people's ability to stay in their homes.
I used property tax as an example but it also affects people in states with high income taxes. Oregon, for example doesn't have a sales tax and so our income taxes are rekatively steep. Any family who is living close to the edge could get pushed over it if they depended on that deduction.
To be clear this isn't going to affect people with low incomes. It isn't just about wealthy people either. Most of the people who are affected will be in the middle to upper middle classes. The problem lies at the feet of Republicans in Washington who made this horrendous tax bill. State governments are trying to figure out what to do for their constituents.
But tty just jumps on the cynical "bad Democrats" headline and doesn't really understand anything.
The following is an article that makes sense, unlike the one tty posted and doesn't have the histrionic headline or political posturing in the form of quotes from Republicans who made the mess in the first place..
Making sense of the new cap on state tax deductions
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/20/pf/salt-deductions-new-tax-plan/index.html
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