Sir Napsalot
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That's what we have now
Will Creepy Joe run in 2020?
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ttystikk
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See above, where I said she'd be taking a pay cut.
Besides, she already has a bully pulpit rivaling the White House, so why would she bother?
Bugeye
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She wouldn't be doing it for the pay.
ttystikk
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There's no upside; she already has all the respect and influence she wants.
Bugeye
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She may love this country enough to do it anyway.
dandyrandy
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I'm thinking pee wee Herman if Uncle Joe doesn't run. He'd b1tch slap trmp.
Padawanbater2
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Oprah is a terrible choice. She would have the same center/right politics as the Democratic establishment
what is biden's black populace policy? pretty similar to clinton's i would imagine..2008, 2016..best way to make black populace stay home again..except you, of course..you're going to go with the one that makes sense for your brothers and sisters, amirite?
out of curiosity.. who would that be?
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Fogdog
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Black people chose Clinton over Bernie in a big way. Are you saying that black people aren't able to make good decisions? I have no idea how Bernie will do with black people in 2020. I will say as demonstrated by his claim that "people are tired of pc rhetoric" Bernie still doesn't get it.
ttystikk
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Bernie gets it.
Out of everyone who's running, he gets it.
That's why he's not likely to be elected.
Yes, I'm saying we don't live in a democracy, so assuming we do is a sucker's bet.
Fogdog
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I'm waiting to see who is running and how they compare to each other when the presidential campaign heats up. Personally, I prefer that the Democratic Party nominates somebody younger than either Bernie or Joe. Regardless, my vote is for the Democrat in the general election. I'm used to my candidate losing the primary. I've yet to see a Republican I can vote for running for Prez.
Now back to my question to you: Black people chose Clinton over Bernie in a big way. Are you saying that black people aren't able to make good decisions?
Fogdog
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Black people didn't vote for Bernie in 2016. I haven't seen any demonstration from Bernie that he's trying to build bridges with black Democratic Party leaders. It's not as if he's doing an end-around and directly appealing to the broad base either. There has been no demonstration from Bernie that he's reaching out to Democratic Party voters who are black, Hispanic or women to show leadership in their issues. Regarding your claim that Democracy is dead in this country, I'd like to remind you that Democracy is not all about catering to white men, maybe with a kennel in the back room. Bernie has to win black, Hispanic and women's votes to win the Democratic nomination. Failure to do so isn't a demonstration of the failure of democracy. Actually, Clinton's win demonstrates otherwise. She most clearly did win the votes of not only the majority of the party by a whopping large margin but also across a broad diverse base of the party.
Please don't embarass yourself by posting opinion polls. What effort is Bernie putting forth to show leadership in issues that affect women, black and Hispanic voters? I can point to times where he quite clearly demonstrated that he didn't get it. The best example was when he said that "people are tired of pc rhetoric" and went on to show he didn't even understand what pc rhetoric was. That was about two years ago and a month after the Presidential election was over. I find no examples of him walking this statement back. It wasn't that he misspoke, he truly meant it. It plays well with white men, which is his base and he's not going to do anything to affect that. His strength is his weakness.
skip to 0:43 to 1:15
He deflects to other issues quite quickly thereafter. His message is how money has screwed up the system. Quite clearly in this town hall he didn't want to dwell on issues that affect black, brown or women's issues.
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UncleBuck
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you bernouts will shit on any woman or black person who wants to run.
blake9999
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Screw it. I'm thinking about running for President. All I have to do is fill out the form below and raise $5,000 cash. I think I can count on you, my constimputiants, to help out. Legalize Weed, and help the homeless is my platform!
https://transition.fec.gov/pdf/forms/fecfrm2.pdf
https://transition.fec.gov/pdf/forms/fecfrm2.pdf
Fogdog
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In fact, I see somebody like Trump running for high position without any prior experience in office as a negative. Seems to me to be hubris more than desire to serve on display when they do that.
Arnold, for example. Went from action hero to governor. Couldn't get a damn thing done. Same with Trump, media celebrity to prez with disasterous results. I'd be less inclined to vote for Oprah because she's a celebrity who we all know is good at winning hearts but hasn't done anything in political arena to demonstrate she can lead in government. I'd take Biden or Bernie over that. Let her show her chops in Congress first.
Fogdog
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How about serving on a city counsel first? They need good people there too.
Sour Wreck
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i'm running for anarchist instigator 