Why is there so many opinions about defoliation?

dangledo

dangledo

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Seems to be strain dependant, ime. Well, out of only a few attempts. Sativa dominant did well. Indica, not so much. the sativa had a serious lean on them within a week. Anecdotal. Dunno:confused:

I just stick to a light pruning every few days
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Noobs and less than stellar growers make stuff up and the myth perpetuates till every one does it and before you know it were still trimming and training plants three weeks before harvest - cool :-)
 
Midnight Warrior

Midnight Warrior

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*wintermute* said:
Um, yes you do see farmers taking the leaves off their plants. Its called harvest. Ask anyone that has grown brassicas why it is important to "pick the leaves" even if its just going to compost.

In addition to reallocating energy from foliage to fruit production, defoliation in cannabis also sends important hormonal signals to the plant that increase fruit size and potency and speed.

Defoliation should be broken down into two categories: indoor and outdoor.

Outdoor: defoliation is less important for light concerns as sunlight penetrates to the ground. Foliage helps protect plant from elements, creates suction (larger plants need more suction to deliver water and nutrients) and aid in respiration. Still, fairly liberal defoil should be considered, especially in the epicenter of the plant. But sunlight is harsh...

Indoor: foliage is largely extraneous for reproduction. The elements are under your control. Plants size reduces the imperative for suction. Artificial light does not penetrate the way sunlight does (not even close), so the imperative to facilitate light penetration becomes the driving imperative. The luxury of controlling the elements means the grower can manipulate the focus of the plant's energy to grower's designs (lots of potent fruit).

There is some validity to the gradual method of defoliation. However, the "recovery time" gradual defoliators constantly site as a reason for gradual defoliation can be completely mitigated by simply upping the plant's micronutrient regimen immediately following comprehensive defoliation.

All-at-once comprehensive defoliation is one of the most powerful methods for robust harvests, if not the single most powerful method. Defoliation can't kill the plant. Period. The only potentially "negative" side effect is that plant stores micronutrients in foliage. Easily accounted for in feeding regimen, and even if it wasn't, plants would not suffer. Grower however would suffer a slightly longer flowering period, say, 7 days.

Here's a timelapse of a comprehensive defoil:

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Good job googling the obscure plant nobody has grown or probably even consumed in America. Less leaves = less sugars the plant can produce its actually pretty simple to understand.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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snoeman032 said:
I’m defoliating this round gonna see how it goes. Next round I’m letting them grow, same strains, same lights, same nutes. I’ll post the results
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Are you running clones next round or just the same seeds? You can get a pretty wide variety of plant phenotypes from the same seeds FYI. So they likely wouldn't really grow the same to start with. But it's a good start at a test. Really side by side with clones is the only way to really tell.

A guy on here posted a thread a couple months ago. He had 800 plants that his employee defoliated( and I mean defoliated/striped not pruned) about 300 of them.

He didn't seem biased about the results, and the difference wasn't massive. About 45g per light in his set up if remember correctly. The defoliated plants stretched more reaching for light, and produced less weight.
 
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*wintermute*

*wintermute*

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Midnight Warrior said:
Good job googling the obscure plant nobody has grown or probably even consumed in America. Less leaves = less sugars the plant can produce its actually pretty simple to understand.
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Wow.

Y'all are really pushy about your ignorance. Maybe you should have googled it?

Broccoli
Kale
Cauliflower
Cabbage
Mustard
Brussel Sprouts
Turnips
Collards

Heard of any of those? They're brassicas, Y'all are proud of your ignorance. That's chill. I grow hundreds of pounds of weed a year. Completely by myself. And I am a small grower. Heavyweights pull a ton a month. And guess what? They all defoliate their entire canopy. Probably though, the guy with 6 plants in a closet knows better, huh? DIY grow tent trolls really help guys like me get money. So honestly, keep disseminating your willful ignorance. $$$$$$$$$$ for me. cheers
 
*wintermute*

*wintermute*

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Midnight Warrior said:
Good job googling the obscure plant nobody has grown or probably even consumed in America. Less leaves = less sugars the plant can produce its actually pretty simple to understand.
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Seriously, this is the dumbest thing anyone has ever typed on the internet! LOL brassicas are literally the basis of the human food chain. And the basis for modern agriculture. You're obviously a pro.
 
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*wintermute*

*wintermute*

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"i haZ 1 6o0 wat LIte ANd do A scients inn Mah ClozeT. wHY duz bad wEeD mAn taLK mE tEH truf?" Half the members on every weed forum
 
eyderbuddy

eyderbuddy

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i defoliate because i grow in tiny spaces... The plants fill up the space quickly and what used to be great airflow turns into stagnant air because the leaves are froming a light absorbing blanket.

I carefully select where to take leaves from, just prune as needed.... Opening light spots in some spots, and in others because just because there are too many leaves on top of each other.

Indoor without pruning CAN be a pain. It's not an absolute necessity. But i think it helps, after all, plants never worried about being enclosed in spaces with limited airflow
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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snoeman032 said:
I’m defoliating this round gonna see how it goes. Next round I’m letting them grow, same strains, same lights, same nutes. I’ll post the results
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You're better off with a side-by-side test. Even if it's just a two plant test you'll be able to see how defoliation stunts growth and then forces the plant to regenerate leaves out of the flowers themselves. If you yank leaves and the plant grows more, what does that say about the importance of leaves?
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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^^^THIS^^^


Because some ass hat thought he found something that worked?

More like it came from Michigan so it's was Republican propaganda meant to screw up your grow.. The right wingers here HATE cannabis!

To be more real. I have a friend who swears by it. Yup he gets more yield in weight (from how HE grew before)....Not a lot but he's happy as a pig in shit. The buds are way smaller but super dense....Blah bag appeal at best.

In comparison....I grow the same strain and get much bigger buds. And bigger yields....

I don't get this idea at all......Does NOT work the way they think...
 
Kushash

Kushash

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Budzbuddha said:
Everybody loves charley brown trees ...

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Hey Brother!
Bummer you're not in the comp.
Hope things work out.
There will be plenty more comps soon I'm sure.
Look forward to chatting over in the thread with you and the others soon about doing some pollen chuckin this grow.
I'll be finished in Dawg's comp in a week or two. :weed:
 
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