Where ya been? Organic. White Widow Skunk, Lr2, Widow Cindy.

dirt clean

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Welcome aboard. Lifestyle change in progress. Moving from more opiates than they gave the elepant in "Operation Dumbo drop" to put up with Hollywood to apparently more opiates and marijuana.

We are mid grow. More importantly though we are setting up are grow cycle. Perpetual three tree has begun!

ALL ORGANIC ACTION! Planet green inspired me. :fire: That and shitty yeild and gay looking plants in rockwool. That fine and dandy for sogs but not me, medical. All organic, for the eco girl Angela Lyndvail, so we have something to talk about when we get married and so I um, um, oh yeah, dont die! I have hardcore liver disease. When I take a tylenol, my side hurts! Hehe, fun at parties. I can tell you what will kill you or not. Ask the liver. Organic soil, and for now organic teas to feed. Later water only grows. Got to to learn my ladies first.

LR2, fem, joint doctor. Real deal. I checked you tube. Same looks. Four of them in three gallons. Just showed their upskirt hair. Nice, took a while.

White Widow Skunk, fem, two of them right now. In seven gallon bags. Just got there. Loving it. They look similiar, which is nice. Supposed to be a big yeilder with potency. I like the Northern lights so I fig I will like this.


Widow Cindy. My most exciting girl. She is huge. She showed some sex in veg. I am sure I got a hair. I was so happy with that one it was like being drunk. Between her, a bagseed, and a mystery sativa. She one. They went to worm compost. I am excited as she is huge, in only a one gallon bag up to last night. So many busites. I am pleased.

Those were my girls. 400 watt Lumatek. Switch to LUMATEK! wow. This made my mag cry. They really got that 30 percent.

4x4x7 tent. Six inch valueline hid hut fan. Tent and fan were a steal. Both are holding up nice. I got that 120 dollar cheap tent off ebay and I am satisfied. Few light leaks and shit but it works good anyway. They, the plants, dont care. Fan is industiral six inch. Perfect. Loud, like I like. Had to know it works.

HTG gro-brite charcoal filter. It sucks. It is cheap and not made for the fan rating they gave it. Maybe a duct booster was made for it. I use it, but augment it with..

Ozone, my favorite. I took the lid off and placed it in the tent's exhaust. Very cool. All those warinings? They are true. OZONE IN DANGEROUS. in small doses so dont worry, jk. Well, it is an industrial stregnth UV so whenever I am in the roomshe goes off. Dry throat, side pain, odd dreams. Kill ya. Lol, but works. No smell at all. Dont get the corona discharge.

In an apt I need that. The cops have already been here. I showed them everything.I had too. They said. I cooperated. I told them my story. They showed their freinds. "A real legal medical marijuan grow"! I ain't in jail. They said it was because they saw my papers, they beleived my story, and I cooperated. Just sat on my couch eating morphine, in case, while they took pics. lol.

Food! I have discovered teas. You can find me hangin out in the organic section. No more chemicals. Since I have gone to orgnanics, I have learned what NPK is, how to acheive it, what is right, and what is evil. Like miracle grow. We feed the soil, over in organics. It is cool. It is easy, it is a thing of beauty.

Some people have gone to water only grows. I am slowly transitioning gradually. But I love the teas. In an apt teas can get a little messy if you are a guy. But not that big a deal to take a 5 gallon and drop your gold inside and aerate for a few days. DO IT!

I hunted through every nutrient I could find. I came close with age old. I liked their ratios. I am going off a chart I found in an old High times. I will post it. But they had no bat poop and I need my Bat poop. Then I found something off the wall. Blue Mountain Organics. They rock it like no other. They pretty much offer a professional bat and bacteria and all the other goodies I have dreamed of on the perfect tea in a bottle. I am not lying. They brew it all for ya and add extra bacteria and with a brewed on date they ship it from the ozarks.

So full line Of BMO nutes. I did mix their flower power and their foliar harmony together to make a more killa flower food. A ratio around 3-13-9. A little light on N but I thro some in once in a while.

Soil. I started with Fox farms of course. They got beautiful soil. But for monies sake I have turned to mostly my own mixes from various organic bases I found at home depot. I have my own 5 tray worm tray coming, so I should get my own wormcastings soon.

Dont try mixing your own soil till you do some reading. You will love the reading. Lots of the stuff needs to avoidied and applied right. It is not hard, but I was pissed at first by all the non-inorganic bullshit that was lurking in my way. Like Miracle grow. I hate them. lol. a little distungting what they do over there. But I here that is an issue with some people and that is not what this is about. I dont care. Lets grow! Whatever floats yer boat is my moto.
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Did I miss anything. Oh yeah, I never intended to start one of these, but this widow cindy was such an awesome surprise I decided to start one. Besides, yawn, ;] with my 2nd grow here I am going to move moutains.


1st pic=food
2nd pci=food
3rd pic=month ago, just begun
4th pic=a few weeks ago
5th pic=last night widow cindy in 7 gallon
6th pic=widow cindy, she is a little pissed after being in 1 gallon for so long
7th pic=all plants 4 lr2, 2wws, 1 widow cindy
8th pic=LR2.

more pics but camera went dead. WWS are in 7 gallons too.
 

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Oh yeah. I read that Estre is the name of the Saxon Godess of spring. So i ate that right up, loving women and not grendel and his mom.

So I Prayed to Estre that widow cindy end up a woman, that is my last seed and I was blown away by the size of both the orignal fan leaves and the plant itself. Being in obly a one gallon plant this plant grew, got huge and prosepered.

It is a girl. That is nice. She is a little pissed off by the late repot, after 4 weeks but I was trying to sex and that took forever as I had no procedure down to do so. My first time.

I dont want to sound cheesy and call all my plants ladies. I know to much about growing them now, that is like a lady.

Reality bites is on. This movies made me want to become a philsopher. See if I could get winona ryder. Lol. That movie and naturlal bron killers. 2 most defining films of my generation. They made me look up pot. Found I liked it.
 

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Just bought this. Hehe. Tried to make my own, to slow, to much work, should pay for itself. Also 2000 worms from uncle Jim's. The best deal on the net.

I know womr castigns is 8 dollars a bag. But that is far and besides this recylce thing is fun.
 

Earl

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Thanks for the link.

I hope the WidowCindy gives you some good medicine.

That one WC will need the whole 400 watts.
better get more lights.

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dirt clean

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yeah more lights is what I am actually going to do. I have 2 400s right now actually. One is a mag that I replaced. It might have to be thrown in. I have to see what three trees looks like.

Lol, since the cops know about this and say it is ok, I am free to get decent power in there now. 1000 watters are cheapest so IDK the time frame but sometime.

Yeah, the cops came. Blah, blah. blah. They said I was ok. They beleived my story and my lawyer says it was a bogus search. I just moved to this so I no nobody so the traffic is non exstent. What I mean is no reason to disbeleive me. The lame thing is that my GF left me as she said I was negative influence on her kids. Lol, I need to find somebody who smokes. I dont blame her. We were wrong anyway. No tears. I got lucky anyway everyone agrees. Lol, "a real medical Mj grow, you gotta see this!"-the cops.

I am having a contest to help me figure out a way to handle runoff. Basically I want somone to tell me a quart a gallon is too much and I dont need to collect that shit. lol.

No, there is not really a contest. Just suggestions.

So if you need any poundage just let me know in code. Also make sure you talk about spirituality. Spirituality means no money. lol.

serioulsy though, I need more meds, I was hoping to replace the opiates. But the pain is a bitch, this looks to be like augmentation.

Go LUMATEK>


Another note before I post pics. Lowrider 2 is a bitch to flower. I am thinking of going to 18/6 to help. They should be farther along then by now. Sexed, but no real growth afterwords. We will see.
 

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I am wondering if that widow cindy is supposed to look that way. she started out so indica I shit, the first fan leaves were as big as my hand, but she got stressed and Iam thinking very angry being in a 1 gallon bag for 4 weeks.

Seven gallon now, I am hoping that will suffice. I am feeding nice veg nutes despite the hps. This is 20/4 lighting. The flower girls is lowrider 2.

She looks sativa now mates. Any takers? I am goinf to spoil her from here on out.

You see I had three plants amongst fivethat I had to choose one from. I had to decide between wc, a sativa, and a bagseed. I cloned to sex them all but had not shown. Then thisgirl showed. The other 2 showed hints of balls and yoila!

I hope the best.
 

dirt clean

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you guys like my hood? got it for a steal on craigs list. 20x24. Far better than the 20x11 HTG euro hood I was using. That was going to be a pain for trees. I have a book that says for flower vertical is best. For veg use hor.


Hydrofarm makes a killer vertical air cooled hood. Here in the southwest it is hard not to use something. we will see. Plus the fire risk. We get grow house fires once a month down here.
 

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It is hard, I know, to see the plants in detail with the hps light on. To fix this I will attempt to mangle some reg lighting in there on monday to get some fluro pics of the plants. The diference in lighting is shows about what you would expect. Either good or bad, but without that big red party to ease the news.
 

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I just figured out my problem. Molasses. I have been feeding heaping tablespoons a 5 gallon bucket. That is 2 tbsp a 3 gallon feed. That must be too much N in addition to their N already for transition.

I hope so. This is a little annoying. I was obsessed with getting those bacteria up. The molasses feeds that micro herd. They will be fine though with little or no extra food. Bubbling and time will substitute from now on.
 

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I got another problem. Bugs. Lol, seems they won’t stop coming, these small little annoyances. Both the bugs and problems. Well the bugs are a curious and potentially deadly little off topic problem that must be eradicated, negated post haste. TO BE OR NOT TO BEE> lol.
I have an outside garden of vegetables and good smelling and good feeling tea, tomato, and pasta sauce herbs. I also got an 18 gallon for soil and another for worms to compost. My own DIY bin that should work nice if you do it right. I will pm dir if you want.

Anyway, I have a gnat infestation. Fungus nats I think. Water and worm food called them in from no where. Now I can’t get rid of with ordinary mean. They get worse. They are in the house plants also, not the mj, but several trees I have and other herbs waiting to go outside.

I have tried the pussy remedies like vinegar and potatoes and no results have been noticed. Maybe the potatoes worked and maybe a few got caught in the vinegar, but mostly they seem to ignore the vinegar altogether.

I hope they just fungus gnats and not some deadlier thing. I know fungus nats can eat the shit out of my girls but African rhino whactchmakallits I hope not.

SO any remedies besides poison. Strips, and lady bugs I will look for.

Oh yeah, they are out the tent I think cuz ladybugs are killing them all.

I use ladybugs for pest control in the tent. Cheap, obviously effective. I recommend the for everyone.
 

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you guys watch house? WOW, they killed one of them. That suicide prevention shit. Powerful, when I was in the hospital once in Seattle I polled the nurses one day on what medical show they liked best. I expected ERm which is what I watched 2 hours a day of on the depths of my binge. One nurse said "House". So I started watching. When I got out after months and learned how ot walk again I always cracked up at the show. Still do, eating my pills and walking around being a dick. AHhhhhh. Lol.


Anyway, LR2 has shown sex now for a week. I have been feeding tranistion and flower nutes with a top dressing of indo batguano. Sounds like a lot but it is a by weekly basis.

However, the ladies have not really begun to flower. I suspect now that the moleasses I have been usingto help feed the bacteria in the teas has been causing the soil and the plant to become to loaded with N. If this is trued I fret the 3 gallon soil will have to be flushed to really start flower.

I forgot that the moleasses had so much N. Also they got the top dressign of mex bat guano in veg.


Any takers? I have seen similiar grows recently.

The white widow skunk is looking nice. Kinds funny looking plant. Almost miniture looking leaves of a bigger plant but very nice, robust growth. Lots of budsites. Compact. Looks almost the same but a few inchs of growth.

I have decided to experiment with what pinching is on the wido coindy. After I clone. I do worry over any hermie chances.

Light schedule has changed three times. Was 24/0. Then 20/4, no 19/5. I will go to 18/6 soon. I want those damn lr2 to flower. They are huge!

I dont see how in 30-40- days they could finish.

here is the NPK chart I found concerning MJ. It was in High Times 03 issue. The only one I can find. Somebody asked Ed R and he said he could not as the needs change so much. Sub Cool siad to take anything I find with a grain of salt.

VEGETATIVE:
Seedlings 2-1-2
Early Vegetative 4-2-3
Mid-Vegetative 10-5-7

FLOWERING:
Cycle Changeover 7-7-7
Early Flowering 5-10-7
Mid-Flowering 6-15-10
Late Flowering 4-10-7
 

dirt clean

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Pics to come. I got some excellent plant pots and was able to spread them out more.

They have all had a growth spurt and the small plants have caught up to make a more even canopy with the LR2. The ees and wc are all vegging ok under the 18/6 of the hps.

I cant wait to back to 24/0 as soon as they start buuding. They are starting to stink, to get some resin going. Soon, I feed High P friday to kick this up.
 

bossman88188

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looks nice man. i have had knat issues . neem oil swicthed with a pythium every 3 days.
when i doit i mix 5 gal worth and dunk the entire plant to get every inch.
then water them with the neem to get the babies in the soil were they live and breed.
not in flower though i would just stop them from the next harvest.
 

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Welcome aboard Bossman. Good idea with the dunk, it would have escaped my mind. So much of this first timer shit is a mix between science and guess and nail biting over whether or not thinking about them will hurt them. Lol. Thanks.

Hey, here’s to San Diego. Me too. Native. I sent you a pm. Armstrong nursery and Kellogg’s organic for 7 bucks for 3 cubic feet at home depot, lol.

Yeah I got to get pics up again, soon, the ladies are huger now. Way huger dude. Rofl.
 

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That has ya going, huh? Well it shouldnt. Just ask yourself if you like to lst or not. I fig theu approaced it from the point of veiw of someone totally new and that person would not lst. So then vertical bulbs make sense. Either that or get a bulb that can penetrate 4-X feet. Understand me?

The book is not that old. If you have this site I cant see buying anybody but SOMA who has a section on the organic area. He cool. lol. Also anybody else who posts here, yada yada yada. I think a giant book on the science would be nice. The elusive goal of NPK providing that I cant find anywhere. I have my own idea of a quick write I will do on my palm pilot i will do on my way to work.

Anyway. I have seen some killer grows with the plants just arranged around in a circle of the light. On this site.

Like I said unless you mean stadium then it is either a question of lst. If you lst then horizontal. If you dont then vertical. It was "the new school of indoor Marijuan something?" by Jeff Mowta. Dont buy. Unless you want them all.

Anyway, MY LR2 STILL WONT FLOWER. JUST SEX!!!!!!!!!No clue. Just more P to come. Lol. Wish me luck.
 

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Nah, the ebay tent is fine. Those off gassing tents are prob gone. I bought mine from LED WHOLESELLERS. I have 2 in fact. The stiching kinda sucks but I have had no big screw ups because of it.

I beleive the brand and model of the tent that did that are on the net. just google.
 

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well, here it is, april 10th.:wall:

I thought I would have a month at most till curing LR2 and be wrapping up an eight week veg of wws and wc. Lol. Not to be. . .

Here it is. LR2 still has yet to flower. On the advice of another forum member I have put one LR2 in a 24 hour dark priod to start flower. This must work. WWs and 3 LR2 and WC will continure on.

I fed today.

LR2- BMO Flower Power and foliar harmony 3-12-9NPK
2.5 ounces for 3 gallons fo water
Cal-mag
3 ounces of Super plant tonic
Lemon, I could not find ph down

WWS and WC- 3 ounces of BMO Grow It Green
3 ounces of Super Plant Tonic
A tbsp of fish omri
Liquid Kelp
Cal mag
Compost
2 tbsp of molasses
Bubbled for 48 hours

LR2 got flower and wws and wc got veg tea.


I got a big prob I noticed with plants. Too much Dolomite I can only guess. One white widow skunk started to look like shit so I checked the run off and it was real basic. I checked with the meter and it was like 8. That is bad. I strive for 6.5.


I added a topdress of sulpher gypsum and poured lemon juice in the veg tea. Later I am gonna add some phd down water and more topdress to get that down.

the growhth at a bad ph is very bad. the error is def noticable. at that high ph x is locked out and it shows like a defciency, only more subtle.

I will def post pics tonight. I want to flush the lr2 and put all in 24 hour dark if at lights on tonight the flowering has not started yet with this latest P infusion.


I also topdress mex and indo batguanos.:weed:
 

dirt clean

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ok, ok, ok, oics tonight for sure. i am sick and lazy.

i decided to go back to the basics and found that high ph is indeed playing a factor and that P

Chart of the Effect of Soil pH on Nutrient Availability
is prob locked out of my LR2. So i gonna fix that with some ph down in my water.

WWS got the ph adjusted water and loved it I thought. I guess ph is very high to have N locked out.

My prob was that in organic with dolomite lime and the warnings that dolomite was slow acting that it would no work at all so I added more. Bad idea. And considering for some reason I am always losing my ph down, next grow i will go very easy.
 
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