Where ya been? Organic. White Widow Skunk, Lr2, Widow Cindy.

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well I was promising some pics. here they are.

also some more LR2 news. I pulled the one girl I had in 24 hours of darkness to see if she would flower and I noticed nothing. That is not to say her clock is not moving diferent yet. I however feel these girls have another few weeks till week one of flowering. I have already fed P nutes. Next feed we will feel out levels.

WWS and WC are def female and vegging into 4-6 weeks. They will be looking at no more than 8-10 week veg.

If at week * lr2 still have not gone to flower. that is 4 weeks, then I will just flip to 12 and 12 and cut out one LR2 as I cant go over my limit.(

I will consider vegging till later if LR2 flowers even some.

I have no idea what next but what a waste of money. Ah, well.

Hey who knows.


Here are some pics. I changed the color rendtion to give daylight color to the pics to make it easier to see. Also their is my worm farm.
 

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i waterd ph adjusted water to my plants. I had high ph do to the dolomite lime. I added some low ph ro water.

the change a day later is phenomonal. The affected plant has grown massively.
 
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Pics today to come. I have reavaluted my grow. I cant stand letting these LR2 take all the room. I have moved them to the outsides of the tent and placed my killer wws and wc, two huge girls to be in 7 gallons some real veg time. I have replaced the hps with the mh and have got it all together.

I may have to actually cut 2 LR2 down to make room for clones of these girls to be "sisters" for future plants. I hate the word "mother" and indeed only in this feild I have been told that it is so. Maybe that is becasue we grow only girls and a girl and her mother are hot! So anyway, maybe I will go back. . .

I dont want any bad luck, and in fact I worship the goddess estre, the saxon goddes of spring. I prayed to her and my wc, my only seed left after a mishap did turn out female like I asked. So superstitous or just cooler than some ahem bachelor (jesus) and his mom (mary) I will continue to call on estre. Lol, I am feeling ok.

Had to go back on my meds, opiates, as the pain was so bad that I was in the emergency room 2 days later, hehehe. Life. Careful what you wish for. lol.
 
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dirt clean said:
I got another problem. Bugs. Lol, seems they won’t stop coming, these small little annoyances. Both the bugs and problems. Well the bugs are a curious and potentially deadly little off topic problem that must be eradicated, negated post haste. TO BE OR NOT TO BEE> lol.
I have an outside garden of vegetables and good smelling and good feeling tea, tomato, and pasta sauce herbs. I also got an 18 gallon for soil and another for worms to compost. My own DIY bin that should work nice if you do it right. I will pm dir if you want.

Anyway, I have a gnat infestation. Fungus nats I think. Water and worm food called them in from no where. Now I can’t get rid of with ordinary mean. They get worse. They are in the house plants also, not the mj, but several trees I have and other herbs waiting to go outside.

I have tried the pussy remedies like vinegar and potatoes and no results have been noticed. Maybe the potatoes worked and maybe a few got caught in the vinegar, but mostly they seem to ignore the vinegar altogether.

I hope they just fungus gnats and not some deadlier thing. I know fungus nats can eat the shit out of my girls but African rhino whactchmakallits I hope not.

SO any remedies besides poison. Strips, and lady bugs I will look for.

Oh yeah, they are out the tent I think cuz ladybugs are killing them all.

I use ladybugs for pest control in the tent. Cheap, obviously effective. I recommend the for everyone.
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ever think of growing garlic in some separate containers? It keeps so man pests off my roses. I also chop garlic put it in water bottles and let it stay in the sun 48 hours. makes a great spray for aphids and the like. interesting grow -I'm hanging out.
 
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Thanks IronHead.

About the bugs. I forgot to mention that I solved that problem using professional neem oil and other inactive, probably soap, product from rite aid. I did a soil drench and overnight it worked.

Also off eBay I got these fly strips, like 30 for 10 dollars. I have an experimental compost bucket going and it drew some real flies. So I drenched that. Lol, they say you need a 3x3x3 area but my bucket is heating up. The worm composting system is working actually better than I thought, as good as the reviews said.

I just checked my girls after the MH switch and wow, just 8 hours under the center of the mh, as opposed, lol, to the outskirts of the HPS, and they have shot up and out. I need that good veg growth of the MH. Plus the Lumatek Lumens.

I am still enjoying this winter weather. I am going to hate summer. But despite being on a smart meter now from my electric company since the cops know about me I will sleep better using all this power. Lol and I recycle. All these plants are like carbon offshoots.
 
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oh yeah, I have considerd planting garlic, I have not gotten to planting anything that grows under ground yet. I will soon as I love all that.

;)

my girls, lol I luv 'em, under the MH right after switch. I have fresh pics 8 hours later, I just have to go in and take them. They have already grown exponentially.

pic 1- all females, lowrdier 2 around side and back. Widow cindy in middle, 2hote widow skunk in front.
pic 2-all girls
pic 3-widow cindy.
 

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Well, things are going nice. Pics soon, lol, I swear. If I have any fans at all. no worries.

Let's see. I have the four lowrider two on the outside of the tent. Flowering is approaching slowly. I am thinking the heavy N in veg got them set back. I will see, some day, with the one seed I have saved.

Also the wws and the wc are in the middle under the 400 mh. They are progressing rapidly. I am surprised at how much better the veg is this way.

I have to feed on friday. Tomorrow. The soil is still a little wet. It has been rainy around so I guess the moisture is getting to them. SO I guess I bought some time. That is good. Making RO water is a pain in the ass. Hehe, I got one of those portable 80 dollar machines. Works, 4 stage, but takes like an hour for a gallon.

I am looking at about 8 weeks for the wc. Around 7 for the wws. These are a little exagerated as the planting time and veg time are a week or so apart probably.

I am looking at maybe 6 weeks at the most for the LR2. This is sad. I thought I was King with the LR2 and reg plant idea. Lol, plants, well at least they are female, well even though they were femmed I breather easier seeing the sex. Although the wc was one hell of a lucky shot.

I will feed a flower with some veg to the LR2. I dont want any yellowing. I am not sure about this. I am taking any suggestions as always. Comment away.

I will give the wc a veg tea with some flower, to start getting her ready for flower. Maybe a week or two for a transition tea then flower.

I will give the wws a heavy veg tea, then a weeker veg tea, then transition. They are multi fimmed and lstd. Same as the wc. This should be very exciting.

I am wondering about lights. How should I run this. My plan is to be a sort of perpetual. I like this hobby, it keeps me off drugs. I might run a 400 for veg and a 400 for flower. Three trees in veg and three trees in flower. Keep I think two sisters (mothers) for clones in a seperate cab. I am hoping to beat the summer heat.

Any experience with a 250 MH? I am thinking about trading one 400 for a 250 and keeping the cost and heat down. Writing this I think I might have to. It seems to good and there are some good deals right now.

One day I will move to a 400 for veg and a 1000 for flower. That will be the day. I am a happy botanist now when a few months ago I did not know what NPK was but vowed to learn. I have read the net. Lol, funny when you know things about the whole internet. Like, I am the only guy in the world on the net with LR2 refusing to actually flower this long. Lol. OW!!!!!!

Anyway. . . Pics soon, i got to get up, set up mem card and camera, and download then blah, blah, blah. Hehe, got to be easier way. . .

I am loving the BMO and the soil. So layed back after hydro. Also I am throwing cocoa in my rubbermaid of future soil.

Worm casting is going smooth. They are effortlessly moving through the piles of food I plant. Nice. I will be terracycle part two. That guy was a pot grower in college, then got the idea to sell worm castings. I shit you not, saw it on the green planet.
 
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Well here it is the 19th of april, a prelude to earth day. Fitting that then last night I have fed the plants what is their most obviously bio active of teas yet.

In 5 gallon orange buckets I made this brew.

veg tea
3 gallon RO
3 tbsp blackstrap unsulphered molasses
2 handfuls of compost
3 ounces of grow it green
1 tbsp of mex bat guan0
1 tsp of indo bat guano
1 tsp of flower power
10 ml liquid karma
10 ml hydroguard
4 tbsp fresh worm castings

---2 air stones from 2 diferent aquarium air pumps. 1 air bar and one little rock. 24 hours for first quart fed then 48 hours for 2nd and 3rd and 4th quarts fed. To the seven gallon organic soil pots I added this tea. It was overpowered with this time with bubbles and this is interesting as the last time it was not, nor any other time. I attribute this I think to the compost of all things, combined with the molasses, then again it had compost before. Let me think, ha! the only thing diferent was that fesh worm castigns had been used.

Curious. Aside from the frsh worm castings, perhaps I was a bit more liberal with the molasses. I have read that more bubbles was the absence of molasses eating bacteria and the presence of fungi. Maybe no the abscence but that bubbles met fungi, to give it another day and the bacteria would show. I assume this, like all internet mumbo is true to a degree, but this is not the whole truth.

I know that this combo got me a fine brew, and when I drained off a quart for each seven gallon, the brew kept going, so that when I add more water tonight to further feed the plants it will be fine feeling. lol, only way to describe. My math is sound. I will compensate for the dilution with more grow it green, the important part for me was getting that microherd alive. Ro water takes me some time to filter.

NEVER LEAVE THE RO MACHINE ON WHEN YOU ARE NOT HOME! It is like a watched pot. As soon as you leave it will overflow. I have come close. hehe, no chances.

for flower I fed this

2 gallons RO water
2 ounces flower power and foliar harmony
1 handful compost
4 tbsp or so fresh worm castings
2 tbsp molasses

The tea had bubbled for 24 hours and is also pictured and I have fed a quart to each plant and will feed 2 more quarts later tonight. I will soon add some more goodness. Hydroguard, liquid karma, and who knows. Maybe some indo. The lr2 who this is for, are already top dressed with indo. THEY ARE BEGINNING TO FLOWER! It will be some time for it to full begin but the proliferation of hair is noticed. I will add maybe a little N to keep leaves going. I am not sure. They got that overdose in veg that retarded them.

This is a long post. ty


I am going to clone tonight. I want to get 2 mother plants going and three veggers ready for next batch before I kill a few LR2 and send the wws and the wc to flower. I have to keep the plant numbers legal as the cops do know about me. I have not switched meds to pot yet, as my first crop ran out fast.

I used to smoke in high school. I should have never quit. That is what led me to my demise. Lol. Smoke the pot, your body cant take the other rot. rofl.

As it stands I will be an opiate and weed patient as the opiates need a little downtime and release that only mj can give. It has like a weight has been lifted, literally, in the afflicted area and the pain turns to pleasure. Something has to do with cbns too. I read this for my condition.

I digress


I have decided to save up for smart pots for some of my girls. I use them for house plants. They work good.


adios here are the pics.
 

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well a day after the feed the plants are looking great! They have definately loved the schedule, bacteria, and the mix. I wonder if I should push it. I am happy.

On the lower leaves of all the plants the leaves that dont get light are always turning yellow. I am assuming that this is because there is no light. I hope that it is not otherwise.

I have a good peice of news. I was checking my apt's electric box today. The heat was so high I was running air and looking to buy one just for the grow room. When I run the air closed the ozone gets pushed around the apt and out the front door. Lol. Not good. I am thinking of one of those 130 shipping included portable swamp coolers.

Anyway I discovered that I have another circuit breaker that I am not using. Not only that there is another one I cannot even find. So I am not able to use an entire circuit for the grow only. That mean I ahve no power worries. I have an extra 400 just laying around and I was thinking about trading it for a 250 mh but now I can just use that.

400 for veg and 400 for flower. Not bad.


I am confused on what to do for the LR2 and the others. I am at a point where I am pissed I bought them.

I think I will move out the wws and wc. I will then flower the LR2 under a 12 and 12. IDK. The LR2 are starting to flower, jus very slow.

I could just switch to 12 and 12 un the big room and stick a few of the LR2 in my little tent. Let them stay.

Whatever I do I must clone soon. THis whole debate is based on the nearly 3 month veg my wws and wc are going to be facing soon! I got to flower them before that.

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR> ANY IDEAS?

respond if you like.
 
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Wow, this is rofl, not just lol, rofl. I got another tool for my grow room today. I did not expect this. Give the opiates some credit but give the magic of the eBay auction some too.

I bought the 4th generation Tri Band UFO. 70 red leds, 10, orange leds, 10 blue leds. 90 watts, 3 built in cooling fans, for, get this, 200$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I shit you not. Really it was only 80 dollars cheaper than the other tri bands on sale now, but I only checked because I was bored and last time I remember them as 400$ and up.

I needed a light answer and this is it. I will use it to veg three while I flower another three in the big tent under the 400 hps.

That is good news. Also today was the last day of the heat wave. It should cool back down tomorow.
 
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your plant nodes are so tight...only one ww of mine is like that the other is stretchy easily taller than the thai or kc33 I have. Though I have another ww I tossed into the outside in the back yard and the shorter light schedule put it into flower. Looks like it will be one solid footlong bud in around fifty days. Seeing as how summer soltice is a few months off i wonder how it will affect the flowering.

ever grow wild lettuce? Its a molecule off from being pure opium. I used to grow it naturally in new england along with a lot of oriental poppies. many a comparrison test was made lol.
 
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lookin good.
i have flooded my old kitchen and my new garage a few times.
how did the cloning go.
score on the ufo. i would like to add 2 of those mounted on the sides of my moving 1ooo watt in flower.
sucks to hear about the pain problem.
fyi gdp is great for pain just not very motivational. fuckin couch lock.
 
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Hey Guys, thanks for the responses.

ironheadxl-yes, the nodes are tight. I attribut this to the 400 watt MH that they are growing under. That and the fact that these are large high yeild plants. The Widow is actually a white widow skunk which is white widow crossed with northern lights and skunk. I think they just went all out. Very nice. The other widow cindy is white widow crossed with purple cindy. It is huge. Also I have LST'D these ladies to the max. A nice canopy, and on that I have fimmed several times all over. They are after all in their 7-8th week of veg! Also in seven gallon bags. And lastly I have been feeding some nice healthy teas.

Also ironheadxl I have grown poppies in fact. I bought it from Annies Annuals alive and they shipped it in the mail. Yeah, one day I got this funky catalogue from nowhere so I looked and saw a "Drama Queen" and it came in a box. I grew it and then when it started to look conspicous I brought it in the tent. That very day the cops came. I almost got it not for the pot but for the poppy! I tossed it, poste haste.

Bossman88188- I am shitting myself for that UFO to arrive. I cant wait. I am hoping it can veg those three for two months. If it is succesful I might buy more. The sky is the limit as I such a small grower with no kids albeit a crappy job I might one day be a led grower. I am a "green" hobbyist thanks to organic growing. Gives me a chuckle and something to do. lol.

Screw the pain, lol, but thanks for commenting. People think I am a drug addict. But, I am in good spirits nevertheless anyway.

Cloning is going ok. I will reveal my recent clone solution below.

For the grow. I have prepared some teas to be fed and not only that I have taken nine clones and prepared a special solution to help them I hope. I will not move on to flower unti I get some clones. I have decided not to keep a mother plant and just clone from the veg of each one. RR cloning is pretty easy. This will save me on space, money, nutes, soil, and energy. I am releived that this is possible as a solution.

A note. I also have a t5. The bulbs burned out prematurely. So I emailed HTG, next day they emailed me back they were sending replacements. They were apologetic. Very nice. The t5 is a good clone light. This was a while ago.

Also, Those damn Lowrider 2. I planned to have them done by the time I put the WWS and the WC into flower. Well, that is done as a future. Unless I veg the others for 4 months it looks like. So I may have to cut some of them down to stay legal!!! Time will tell. They are just starting still to show hairs. Long time. I want to let them die. ERRRRRR.

Clone solution.
1 gallon RO water
1 tbsp spt
2 tbsp liquid kelp
1 tsp indo bat guano
1 tsp flower power
1 tbsp hydroguard
1 drop superthrive
10 ml liquid Karma

all this in the clone tray and a spray bottle. First I cut the clones. Then I dip them in that solution. Then I recut them under water at a 45 degree angle. Then I dip them in Olivia's Cloning solution for a few minutes. Then I take a presoaked RR in the mix above turn it over and use an allen wrench to make another hole smaller than the factory made one. I then gently easily slide the clone inside. The RR with clone then goes into the tray with water holding insert 3/4 full of RO water and above solution. I give it six hours of darkness. Then lights on for 24 hours a day until I see roots and plant them in one gallon containers. :).

The veg tea.

3 gallons of RO water
3 tbsp of grow it green (BMO)
3 tbsp Super Plant Tonic (BMO)
2 tbsp Mex Bat Guano
6 tbsp fresh worm castings
3 cups of compost
3 tbsp of molasses
10 ml of cal mag
15 ml of hydroguard

I put this in a 5 gallon orange bucket. Then I add two airstones and bubble it for at least 24 hours. I should see lots of bubbles. If not I will add more molasses and organic material. I am going to try 2-3 quarts a gallon. I do not feed the whole max gallon any more as the runoff is insane.


Flower Tea

2.5 gallons of RO water
3 tbsp of bio bloom
1/2 tbsp of bio grow
5 tbsp fresh worm castings
2 cups of compost
10 ml of cal mag
10 ml of hydroguard
3 tbsp of molasses
2 tbsp of indo guano

I added this mix into a 5 gallon bucket. I added one large air bar to the tea. I will bubble for at least 24 hours. This will be added a few quarts to the LR2. I used the Bio Bizz on these this time as I want to save the BMO for the WWS and WC.

I will feed these to the girls either tomorw or the next day. It is funny the LR2 are prob going to be dead by then as they are drooping but I dont feel like watering them as they are angering me. Kinda with a sick sense of pride i will cut them all down one morphine loaded night. They are a let down.

The WC is amazing me. It has the best growth patterns I have ever seen. All the bottome branced are growing as high as the other upper branches. There is no wasted growth. It is nice. The other two are big and bushy but I dont think the care in the genetics went into them as they did this girl. They have smaller shoots that cant reach the canopy and I want to cut them sort of. I am training them all to get as much light. I have pushed the LR2 to the wall of the tent and have the three veggers int eh middle. I am hoping for trees and I may transition to a 1000 watter sometime in their flower. This is an obsession. I am a farmer now. My reg lettuce is good too. Rofl.

Here are the pics.
 

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Looking Good DC, nice green and bushy.. subscribed.:blsmoke:

dirt clean said:
Hey Guys, thanks for the responses.

ironheadxl-yes, the nodes are tight. I attribut this to the 400 watt MH that they are growing under. That and the fact that these are large high yeild plants. The Widow is actually a white widow skunk which is white widow crossed with northern lights and skunk. I think they just went all out. Very nice. The other widow cindy is white widow crossed with purple cindy. It is huge. Also I have LST'D these ladies to the max. A nice canopy, and on that I have fimmed several times all over. They are after all in their 7-8th week of veg! Also in seven gallon bags. And lastly I have been feeding some nice healthy teas.

Also ironheadxl I have grown poppies in fact. I bought it from Annies Annuals alive and they shipped it in the mail. Yeah, one day I got this funky catalogue from nowhere so I looked and saw a "Drama Queen" and it came in a box. I grew it and then when it started to look conspicous I brought it in the tent. That very day the cops came. I almost got it not for the pot but for the poppy! I tossed it, poste haste.

Bossman88188- I am shitting myself for that UFO to arrive. I cant wait. I am hoping it can veg those three for two months. If it is succesful I might buy more. The sky is the limit as I such a small grower with no kids albeit a crappy job I might one day be a led grower. I am a "green" hobbyist thanks to organic growing. Gives me a chuckle and something to do. lol.

Screw the pain, lol, but thanks for commenting. People think I am a drug addict. But, I am in good spirits nevertheless anyway.

Cloning is going ok. I will reveal my recent clone solution below.

For the grow. I have prepared some teas to be fed and not only that I have taken nine clones and prepared a special solution to help them I hope. I will not move on to flower unti I get some clones. I have decided not to keep a mother plant and just clone from the veg of each one. RR cloning is pretty easy. This will save me on space, money, nutes, soil, and energy. I am releived that this is possible as a solution.

A note. I also have a t5. The bulbs burned out prematurely. So I emailed HTG, next day they emailed me back they were sending replacements. They were apologetic. Very nice. The t5 is a good clone light. This was a while ago.

Also, Those damn Lowrider 2. I planned to have them done by the time I put the WWS and the WC into flower. Well, that is done as a future. Unless I veg the others for 4 months it looks like. So I may have to cut some of them down to stay legal!!! Time will tell. They are just starting still to show hairs. Long time. I want to let them die. ERRRRRR.

Clone solution.
1 gallon RO water
1 tbsp spt
2 tbsp liquid kelp
1 tsp indo bat guano
1 tsp flower power
1 tbsp hydroguard
1 drop superthrive
10 ml liquid Karma

all this in the clone tray and a spray bottle. First I cut the clones. Then I dip them in that solution. Then I recut them under water at a 45 degree angle. Then I dip them in Olivia's Cloning solution for a few minutes. Then I take a presoaked RR in the mix above turn it over and use an allen wrench to make another hole smaller than the factory made one. I then gently easily slide the clone inside. The RR with clone then goes into the tray with water holding insert 3/4 full of RO water and above solution. I give it six hours of darkness. Then lights on for 24 hours a day until I see roots and plant them in one gallon containers. :).

The veg tea.

3 gallons of RO water
3 tbsp of grow it green (BMO)
3 tbsp Super Plant Tonic (BMO)
2 tbsp Mex Bat Guano
6 tbsp fresh worm castings
3 cups of compost
3 tbsp of molasses
10 ml of cal mag
15 ml of hydroguard

I put this in a 5 gallon orange bucket. Then I add two airstones and bubble it for at least 24 hours. I should see lots of bubbles. If not I will add more molasses and organic material. I am going to try 2-3 quarts a gallon. I do not feed the whole max gallon any more as the runoff is insane.


Flower Tea

2.5 gallons of RO water
3 tbsp of bio bloom
1/2 tbsp of bio grow
5 tbsp fresh worm castings
2 cups of compost
10 ml of cal mag
10 ml of hydroguard
3 tbsp of molasses
2 tbsp of indo guano

I added this mix into a 5 gallon bucket. I added one large air bar to the tea. I will bubble for at least 24 hours. This will be added a few quarts to the LR2. I used the Bio Bizz on these this time as I want to save the BMO for the WWS and WC.

I will feed these to the girls either tomorw or the next day. It is funny the LR2 are prob going to be dead by then as they are drooping but I dont feel like watering them as they are angering me. Kinda with a sick sense of pride i will cut them all down one morphine loaded night. They are a let down.

The WC is amazing me. It has the best growth patterns I have ever seen. All the bottome branced are growing as high as the other upper branches. There is no wasted growth. It is nice. The other two are big and bushy but I dont think the care in the genetics went into them as they did this girl. They have smaller shoots that cant reach the canopy and I want to cut them sort of. I am training them all to get as much light. I have pushed the LR2 to the wall of the tent and have the three veggers int eh middle. I am hoping for trees and I may transition to a 1000 watter sometime in their flower. This is an obsession. I am a farmer now. My reg lettuce is good too. Rofl.

Here are the pics.
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Update: Sttill waiting for the UFO. Still cloning. I think I should see some roots soon as leaves are starting to yellow and that has always been a sign that we are close.

I released some more ladybugs into the tent again. The fungus nats finally got a few inside and I dont want them around. So the swarm of over 1500 for 9 dollars is hard at work as we speak. They will ahve it all cleaned up in a second. Chow time.

Pics, will come. These are a few days old. I have since noticed a huge change in wws as they are ph sensitive as the lower phd teas I gave take effect on the soil.
 

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Well, it has been a while. damn.

Pics will come. I have been busy. more like lazy, rofl :)

Update. 400 watt lumatek.

triband UFO

3 and 4 trees to come into veg.

I heard bat guano was bad for bats. I heard I could only use water, as in prefert the soil enough. I did enough reading to finally beleive.

I got blood meal
kelp meal
bone meal
dolimite
perlite
coco coir
fox farms ocean forest
organicare aeration mix
fresh worm castings
azomite
greensand


I think that is it. I am letting it "cook" with some ro and liquide karma and BMO. If this works I am in heaven. We will see.


Good luck.


am not in jail. ;)
 
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Finally got a chance to get caught up on your journal...+rep for going organic and subscribed. I am going to get some more BMO products myself.
 
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Whatever I do I must clone soon. THis whole debate is based on the nearly 3 month veg my wws and wc are going to be facing soon! I got to flower them before that.

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR> ANY IDEAS?

respond if you like.[/QUOTE]so I would move out those ww's to flower right now
they will need about fifty to 65 dayds of flower to get right. Indoor they take a full sixty days easy under cfls I know cause mine us still clear in the trichs under the 35 k lumens cfls yet the ones I threw outside...well im smoking that now :hump:
and yeah the hype is accurate. Some responses are
"man thats the highest I have been on a long time" to "man that is the highest I have ever been." I firmly believe that an organic product raised in soil properly fed will out perform any other kind. 200 million years of natural cultivation wont be outdone anytime soon. and yeah clone 'em now got 8 wws I cut two days ago and two mothers I cloned two and a half months ago that I just sent out to flower last week.:peace:
 
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I hear you on the veg time. I vegged a few days over 2 months. I then sent three plants to flower in seven gallons. Two white widow skunks and one widow cindy. They are doing awesome.

I cloned two weeks before I flipped. I am keeping no mothers as for me as a medical grower that would be retarded when it came to plant count. :) It is easy to get a proper cut with these big girls!

I have four clones in one gallons. I went through a bad bout of ph and stress.

One clone suffered nothing! Just like the girl she came from. This happened the first time around and one plant was fine. I should have cloned only her but her sister filled out very nice.

I finally am getting them better. I did two ph soil feeds and a ph'd foliar feed with fresh bacteria SPT and liquid karma style. Getting some green growth now.

I am running the 600 in an airflow hood and the 400 in a cooltube. I am excited about the possibilities of a veg and flower room. Because of the ph prob I germed another seed just in case. SO I can always throw in a vegger early and still be legal.

I hear you on organic. My plants look amazing. These were yesterday. I also have a uvb 10.0 bulb on one plant.

they are filling nicely.

I have discovered the secrets of bacteria tea. Rather I am just getting into them. All I can say so far is too brew for the bacteria instead of fungi. Use a lot of air! More the better, and I am reading about the soil food web by jeff lowenfels and waybe lewis. Also a google of the soil food web will get some good results.

My super soil wants to be used. She has already mellowed in smell as the bacteria get to work freeing up the npk. I hope only topdressing if I have to and some bacteria teas. I am hoping that the ability to feed whenever they want will give the plants a lot of growth.
 

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