When Does Life Begin ...

lavenderstar

lavenderstar

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misshestermoffitt said:
What are these horrible things? That they can just walk away and often do? That if they want a choice in the matter they should keep better track of their semen? That they really don't know how much a pregancy wrecks a female body from the inside out?

None of these things are horrible, they are truths. You apparently can't handle the truth. It would seem to me that you are embarressed to belong to the gender that tries to oppress the female gender.

Abortion is about men trying to control women. Sorry but it is what it is.
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I don't feel as though pregnancy has wrecked my body inside and out, i have some scars from my kids, they are absolutely beautiful , and my husband agrees,"theloadeddragon" some from my first, and some from the second, which is his. he is dad "papa" to the first. I was sick for all nine months with the second 3 months with the first. I didn't mind, in the end of all that there is my children. I hear some troubles and pain. To hear a mother say she didn't like to be pregnant, what greater joy is there to feel that arm, leg inside your own body, uncomfortable,yes, stressful, emotional,

Abortion should be the choice of a the woman, and no one else, they should not be forced.

And to this subject on when Life begins, if a woman trying to conceive a child with her husband, let's say 2 weeks after conception, (too soon to really know without an ultrasound) she is stabbed in the uterus, the embryo is killed, she lives, there was a baby that was trying to be conceived knowingly. Can this woman put the person that stabbed her on trial for murder?

I believe Life Begins when the DNA is combined, sperm enters the egg.
seed begins to sprout with water.
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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chuckbane said:
I remember this being a fact but i dont know if it still is.
I will however say that OVERALL men get paid higher to do the same work.

Things are changing quick over here though. I know MANY women who make more than their husbands.
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Yeah, its changing quickly I would say, but not fast enough that its over with, :(. Indeed.... me and my wife used to run a business together, and I made sure she got paid more than me, :). America is pretty corrupt and evil bro.
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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"I believe Life Begins when the DNA is combined, sperm enters the egg."

"seed begins to sprout with water."

And thus is alive as soon as there is that reaction... :)
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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but as far as I am concerned, our daughter was alive in us for a couple of months before she was even conceived, in our hopes and desires and love for a child that was yet to come, she came, and is now alive and beautiful, :), was she not alive even before being conceived?
 
chuckbane

chuckbane

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theloadeddragon said:
Yeah, its changing quickly I would say, but not fast enough that its over with, :(. Indeed.... me and my wife used to run a business together, and I made sure she got paid more than me, :). America is pretty corrupt and evil bro.
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yea i know... Vi (the boy who created the thread) once asked me (when i said america was founded on evil) what was so evil about the founders of the country. I told him slavery and unequal rights for minorities was a good place to start,, then he put me on ignore so he couldnt read my posts.. HAHA did i mention ameroca was founded on censorship too? thats quite evident in Vi's case,,, haha, but of course he cant read this,, wouldnt want to hurt his feeble mind, lol...

oh well

things will get better when there are less and less of people like Vi... soon enough we will have our day!
 
medicineman

medicineman

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theloadeddragon said:
That is true for the most part. Women are getting into executive positions, and making good salaries etc. It just depends on where you work. Unfortunately, your right about women still getting shitty deals in work situations, especially for jobs that require particular skills. I believe women should be treated fairly across the board at the workplace, at home, everywhere. What I was commenting on was a lot of sales jobs, reception jobs, customer service jobs, public relations jobs etc. are being taken up by young attractive women that aren't even qualified for their positions, simply because they are young and attractive. Its not these young ladies that are the problem, its the piggy bastard horny managers HR etc. etc. that are to blame, Men, yep. Just not men like me.
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Yeah, that's probably why Vi was calling me a liar, He is a senior sales person in Real estate. I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that he takes advantage of pretty young things.
 
chuckbane

chuckbane

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theloadeddragon said:
but as far as I am concerned, our daughter was alive in us for a couple of months before she was even conceived, in our hopes and desires and love for a child that was yet to come, she came, and is now alive and beautiful, :), was she not alive even before being conceived?
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she was alive alright. but i dont believee she was a separate entity until the cord was cut. And therefore does not deserve its own rights. Until that cord is cut that baby is just a piece of flesh growing inside of another human,, a human with her right to CHOOSE
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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chuckbane said:
she was alive alright. but i dont believee she was a separate entity until the cord was cut. And therefore does not deserve its own rights. Until that cord is cut that baby is just a piece of flesh growing inside of another human,, a human with her right to CHOOSE
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Yep, and the choice had already been made, thus she was alive, and known and treated as a separate entity before she was ever born.... its a perspective thing... Im her father, so I am biassed... :-P
 
chuckbane

chuckbane

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theloadeddragon said:
Yep, and the choice had already been made, thus she was alive, and known and treated as a separate entity before she was ever born.... its a perspective thing... Im her father, so I am biassed... :-P
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That is a great perspective and i respect it 100%, +rep 4 u, thx for that
 
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HotNSexyMILF

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lavenderstar said:
And to this subject on when Life begins, if a woman trying to conceive a child with her husband, let's say 2 weeks after conception, (too soon to really know without an ultrasound) she is stabbed in the uterus, the embryo is killed, she lives, there was a baby that was trying to be conceived knowingly. Can this woman put the person that stabbed her on trial for murder?
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Yes, people are put in jail for murder when an unborn child is killed- Federal law.. only exemption is abortion- But, yes, you kill an unborn child in the womb it's murder, regardless of the stage of development, you can be prosecuted and put in jail.

Edit: just wanted to clarify- each state has different laws in regards to this, but the Federal law was passed in 2004..
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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HotNSexyMILF said:
Yes, people are put in jail for murder when an unborn child is killed- Federal law.. only exemption is abortion- But, yes, you kill an unborn child in the womb it's murder, regardless of the stage of development, you can be prosecuted and put in jail.

Edit: just wanted to clarify- each state has different laws in regards to this, but the Federal law was passed is 2004..
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She knew that. It was part of her point on when life begins. Mine too, now that I come to think of it, :)
 
medicineman

medicineman

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HotNSexyMILF said:
Yes, people are put in jail for murder when an unborn child is killed- Federal law.. only exemption is abortion- But, yes, you kill an unborn child in the womb it's murder, regardless of the stage of development, you can be prosecuted and put in jail.

Edit: just wanted to clarify- each state has different laws in regards to this, but the Federal law was passed in 2004..
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I believe this is when it against the mothers will. Hopefully they'll never pass a draconian law like that against mothers.
 
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HotNSexyMILF

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It's nice to have another woman not completely bashing pregnancy- yes it's uncomfortable, yes it sucks, but geez- when it's all said and done to say it isn't worth it is really fucked up.. I could never say that.. I woulda walked through hell to have my daughter, it's all worth it in the end..
 
theloadeddragon

theloadeddragon

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HotNSexyMILF said:
It's nice to have another woman not completely bashing pregnancy- yes it's uncomfortable, yes it sucks, but geez- when it's all said and done to say it isn't worth it is really fucked up.. I could never say that.. I woulda walked through hell to have my daughter, it's all worth it in the end..
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Thats what my wife said when she read all of those posts.... she was like, where is all the talk of this great life coming into the world??? kind of confused she was...
 
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