what the fuck!!!!!!!!

MEG29

Active Member
A friend of mine went on vacation for a week not long ago, when he was gone the police visited a neighbour of his for something and busted his door in at the same time, they took his Single plant and left paperwork asking him to contact them when he returned. :O

That was just one plant and he contacted them and got a slap on the wrist and agreed to having the plant destroyed.

the only reason they would take the TV is if it was linked to Criminal activity, i.e. stolen goods etc. Or possibly because it was bought from gains of criminal activity but from what you have stated already i don't think the latter is the case.



Hope you get it all cleared up soon and i would stall on the growing for a few months if i were you.

Peace and be Carefull :wink:
You have me thinking now,I live in an apartment,well a house converted into 3 apartments.They kicked in my door and my other 2 neighbors so i just might have got caught up in someone else's
mess but i still don't understand why come in my house?
 

stak

Well-Known Member
You have me thinking now,I live in an apartment,well a house converted into 3 apartments.They kicked in my door and my other 2 neighbors so i just might have got caught up in someone else's
mess but i still don't understand why come in my house?
What does the warrant say they were searching for?
 

choop

Well-Known Member
You have me thinking now,I live in an apartment,well a house converted into 3 apartments.They kicked in my door and my other 2 neighbors so i just might have got caught up in someone else's
mess but i still don't understand why come in my house?
right there you could already fight the search... if the cops are that sloppy that they couldnt specify the exact unit for a search and only put the address then either there is more to this than you are telling us or what you said is probably right. maybe they wanted to search a neighbor or something and the warrant they took as applying to the entire address. it sounds like a stretch but cops do that kind of shit all the time, dont kid yourself.

what did the warrant say it was looking for?
 

MEG29

Active Member
It said it was for drugs,cocaine,heroin,meth,etc. and believe me yes I am moving already got my stuff out as soon as I seen what went down I'm stressed cause i don't know what I'd anything will happen next.And for the record the tv wasn't hot I work and paid for it this whole situation is crazy.
 

choop

Well-Known Member
what?? that shit is crazy . im honestly dumbfounded. im sorry, try to relax. you should get a lawyer very soon.
 

MEG29

Active Member
Hey I'm telling you everything no need to lie now,all that they had on the search warrant was the address not my name or anything and the list of drugs to search for and on the back where it says they were suppose to list what was taken from my place they didn't list anything.And just to let you know i had 2 THC bombs that would have been ready next week 1 SLH,and 2 Tangerine Dreams that were nowhere near done
 

MEG29

Active Member
what?? that shit is crazy . im honestly dumbfounded. im sorry, try to relax. you should get a lawyer very soon.
Believe me i have already had 2 consultations today both have basically told me the same thing,don't answer ANYTHING without a lawyer present when they finally do contact me and there is basically nothing they can do until they know exactly what I will be charged with which leads me back to the question I have been asking myself since this happened why haven't I heard anything yet,i mean they are the police It's not hard to get my # or find where I work
 

mnmobbin

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I wouldnt worry about going to the hydro store like missnu said. Ive walked into a local hydro store twice now and first thing I seen was two nicely dressed officers with guns and badges. Def not regular street cops. Both times I looked, smiled, said hi and went about my shoping. Btw I dont look like ur "average joe gardener" with full sleeve tattoos down to my nuckles.
 

Bonzo Mendoza

New Member
Here is how growers REALLY TRULY got busted (in California):

People v. Fang (2011; snitch + smell + stupidity = bust)
San Francisco cop received an anonymous letter regarding the possible cultivation of marijuana inside a residence. The cop went to the residence and, while standing on a public sidewalk, saw that the upper and lower level windows on the west side of the residence were covered and there was condensation on the inside of a window. When he walked up a walkway, he smelled “the distinct odor of marijuana emanating from the residence”. A search warrant revealed 22 pounds of processed marijuana and 800 marijuana plants, six-gallon tubs of plant nutrients, numerous high wattage light bulbs, a commercial-size electrical fan, a digital scale, a bypassed electric meter,...Fang pleaded guilty to theft of utility services

Barnett v. State Farm General Ins. Co. (2011; snitch + outdoor grow = bust)
Barnet made a claim for theft against his homeowners’ policy after police seized marijuana at his home pursuant to a search warrant(!) (did not constitute a “theft” within coverage of homeowner's insurance policy, btw). Costa Mesa police office prepared the statement of probable cause after receiving a tip about the extent of Barnett's outdoor marijuana cultivation, confirmed by a police helicopter overflight that detected about a dozen plants.

People v. Tu (bad luck = bust)
2009: Mr. Tu (the defendant) was convicted of cultivating marijuana and placed on probation for three years after commercial property manager received a telephone call from the tenant reporting water pouring into warehouse from underneath a wall. Property manager investigated and discovered “this big old greenhouse that somebody had built in that warehouse area.” The greenhouse was “full of 145 marijuana plants ... about four-feet high” (the source of the water was a broken copper pipe that served the toilet).

People v. Reyes (outdoor grow)
(Probably acting on a tip) a police officer observed a three foot tall marijuana plant growing in a backyard; the plant appeared to be a well maintained.

People v. Urry (snitch + smell = bust)
Acting on a tip from a confidential informant who claimed to have smelled pot, narcotics investigators smelled marijuana growing in a barn from a distance of 35 to 40 yards away.

People v. Gasper (snitch + smell = bust)
An “unnamed citizen” reported that defendant “might be growing marijuana, saw defendant's electrical meter spinning rapidly, and heard a fan running upstairs”. Two police officers walked by defendant's house and smelled a strong odor of marijuana.

People v. Bower (snitch + carelessness = bust)
2004. Bower was taking care of a neighbor’s empty house. A “concerned citizen” reported to police that she had observed marijuana plants growing inside the abandoned house by looking through an exterior window. Upon investigation, a police officer saw three dead marijuana plants in the backyard. The officer then went to Bowers’ residence where he first smelled the odor of marijuana coming from the house, and then observed three plants growing in the backyard and four plants growing on the upstairs balcony.
People v. Parra (carelessness)
2006. Parra’s friend was accidently shot and killed in Parra’s backyard; it was discovered during the resulting investigation that marijuana was being cultivated.

People v. Williams (outdoor)
2007. Sheriff's helicopter spotted a “marijuana grow”- 400 plants- in the Los Padres Forest in northern Santa Barbara County. Deputies staked it out, and caught Williams riding a motorcycle and carrying a backpack full of gardening gear at 5:30 a.m. Evidence at the outdoor grow operation matched Williams personal property and vice versa. Threatened with a search warrant, Williams gave permission to search his house, where police discovered 90 more plants. Williams was required to serve 365 days in the county jail as a condition of an additional sentence of probation.
People v. Mineo (snitch + electric company records = bust)
2003. Detective received on information from confidential informant (“CI”) who identified a Mr. Holst and told about a large ongoing marijuana cultivation operation in a warehouse. Detective identified the location of the warehouse through electric company subscriber records, and went to the address. He observed that there were no windows, there was no business name attached to the locked door, and there was also a mechanical humming noise coming from inside the warehouse, which sounded like the noise of fans. The cop obtained criminal history records for Mineo, which showed that Mineo had been previously convicted of cultivating marijuana. Detective also obtained, through service of a separate search warrant on the utility provider, the power service records for the warehouse space. The utility usage for a six month period for the uninhabited storage space, as reflected in the utility billing records, was “enormous.” The court noted that a separate search warrant is NOT necessary to obtain utility records from PG & E (the Calif. electric company) - note, however, that the electric company did not voluntarily give cops this information. This information was all then used to obtain a search warrant. Inside the 1,500 square foot space the officers found more than 400 mature marijuana plants, another 400 small clone plants, lights, a watering system, fans, humidifiers, and a sophisticated ventilation system. The officers also found several pounds of marijuana hanging to dry. Mineo claimed that he sold the marijuana to cannabis clubs in the Bay Area, and that the sale of the marijuana would yield about $4,000 per pound. A search of Mineo’s residence yielded 40 more marijuana plants in the basement, kitchen, and outside the residence. They also found a revolver (Mineo was a convicted felon). On March 17, 2005, the trial court suspended imposition of sentence and placed appellants on probation. Mineo was required to serve 120 days in county jail as a condition of probation.

People v. Oltman (Greenhouse visible from the air)
2001. Deputies were conducting aerial surveillance in the North San Juan area while flying in excess of 1,000 feet above ground. They observed vegetation growing inside two hothouse structures. The vegetation had a “distinct green shimmering fluorescent type color” that the deputies knew from experience was marijuana. During the motion to supress the search warrant, the Defendant submitted the declaration of Christopher Conrad, a marijuana researcher who had authored two books on the subject and had qualified as an expert on marijuana in more than 20 California county courts and in one federal district court. Conrad's declaration stated that numerous other green plants, including tomato plants, were similar in color to marijuana, and that no single and consistent variation of the color green described all marijuana plants. The California court upheld the validity of the search warrant, reasoning that the officers were allowed to use their experience in marijuana detection and their common sense to form their opinions.

People v. Thompson
2001. Affidavits in support of the search warrant recited that the investigating officer received information from a citizen informant, referred to as “CI# 1,” of “a large marijuana grow” in a “large barn structure” at a specified address. CI# 1 was described in the affidavit as a “neighbor” who smelled “a strong odor” of “growing marijuana and not burning marijuana” “coming from the barn every three months.” According to CI# 1, the “smell goes away after the third month and three months later the strong smell returns.” CI# 1 asserted that the resident of the property harvests the marijuana “every three months. The investigating officer obtained warrants for PG & E records for two units of similar size at that address. The records for the “front unit” indicated use of electricity from January to August of 2001 ranged between $300 and $1000; in contrast, the range of electricity used during the same months for the “second unit that is not involved and no criminal activity is suspected,” was between $20 and $50.

People v. Sivichith (very clever gro op.! READ THIS even though we are not able to tell how they got caught.)
2000. Narcotics officers executed a search warrant on a piece of rural property in Fresno County. The property is a parcel of land covering about 13 acres. Officers found approximately 1,600 marijuana plants. The plants had been split in fourths when small and bent or broken so that they grew along the ground in a spider-like manner. The marijuana was interplanted with, and hidden from view among, bitter melon vines, lemon grass and a vine-like plant called opo. The amount of dried marijuana the plants would have produced at maturity was estimated at about 8,000 pounds. Sivichiths’ girlfriend was caught entering the property and pleaded guilty, but Sivichith beat the rap (even though his personal property was found in the house on the land). Check the language of the Court: “Cultivation of marijuana is essentially a hands-on crime that requires a showing of some participation in the growth harvest or processing of marijuana or a showing of facts from which such participation logically may be inferred. For example, officers observation of marijuana plants growing on sundeck of residence owned or rented by defendants was sufficient evidence to sustain conviction for cultivation. However, in this case, no evidence put Sivichith in the field with the marijuana, or indicate that he had dominion or control over the crops. Simple presence on the property or cohabitation are not facts from which an inference of either cultivation activity or dominion or control over the crop logically may be made. Evidence of ownership and presence on the property not sufficient as a matter of law to establish probable cause for charge of cultivation”. In other words, lock the door to the grow room and do not carry the key with you - hide it instead. Without the key to the locked grow room (an no other evidence whatsoever), one could plausibly deny “dominion over the crop” ... uh, like, perhaps blame it on the kids’ babysitter????
 

Penyajo

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Well meg first off let me start off by saying Sorry and I hope every thing works out for the best. But I have read through this whole thread and there are a few things that have me thinking that you get ripped rather than raided. Not saying I am right but this is just my opinion. You say that the other two apartments that are attached to you were also involved in this. Cops dont just go busting down ppls doors for no reason. When they get information on something they start an investigation. They normally study your lifes schedule and get you while you are asleep. I have seen a few raids happen right around me. One guy worked at the grocery store normal hours they busted his door down at 3 in the morn because they knew he was not expecting it and would be sleeping at this time of night. Another one just happened right down the road from me. You would never see this guy in the daytime but he would be on the front porch all night. They got him at 11am because they knew he stayed up all night and was sleeping in the mornings. Any ways I feel that they would have studied you a bit more and would have only busted down your door not your neighbors. Also they took your fucking TV what kind of shit is that. This is just the way I am looking at the issue. I wish you the best of luck. STAY HIGH!!!
 

chrishydro

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Somebody ratted you out, if you dont have 50 plants growing they dont give a shit. Someone that got some weed from you or something told them. Just tell your lawyer to ask for the basis of the warrant they have to reveal the reason they gave the judge, if they found in your trash than that will be there if they had an informant the name does not have to be there but the word informant has to be there.

Just that simple, your lawyer can get the answer. We dont live in China or Russia.
 

MEG29

Active Member
Well meg first off let me start off by saying Sorry and I hope every thing works out for the best. But I have read through this whole thread and there are a few things that have me thinking that you get ripped rather than raided. Not saying I am right but this is just my opinion. You say that the other two apartments that are attached to you were also involved in this. Cops dont just go busting down ppls doors for no reason. When they get information on something they start an investigation. They normally study your lifes schedule and get you while you are asleep. I have seen a few raids happen right around me. One guy worked at the grocery store normal hours they busted his door down at 3 in the morn because they knew he was not expecting it and would be sleeping at this time of night. Another one just happened right down the road from me. You would never see this guy in the daytime but he would be on the front porch all night. They got him at 11am because they knew he stayed up all night and was sleeping in the mornings. Any ways I feel that they would have studied you a bit more and would have only busted down your door not your neighbors. Also they took your fucking TV what kind of shit is that. This is just the way I am looking at the issue. I wish you the best of luck. STAY HIGH!!!
Im thinking more and more you may be right because like you said they took my damn tv and that just hasn't made since to me and I'm thinking the same thing It's not hard to find out my work schedule and find out when i will be home so why didn't they do it then so they could get me too that just hasn't made sense to me,and wouldn't they leave someone in the area to pick me up in case i did come back which i did,nothing I haven't heard from anyone but the thing that keeps bothering me is there is absolutely no way someone could have informed on me because like i said i never told a soul and i have NEVER sold anything to anyone so I have to ask myself was it just pure bad luck,I really hope it was so i can just accept it and move on.
 
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