You don't think we got your satire? Wow. I told you to go to the other threads so you can let the other atheists who actually have a real debate talk. You do realize we don't take you seriously, right? I mean you come here with no knowledge and try shooting us down, that's hilarious. How about you go run along and find out how the universe was created then come back and tell me so I can reconsider my beliefs.
Check this out dude, all this started when I asked Christians some questions on RIU then a bunch of atheists came in and slaughtered my tribe (ha, tribe). From then on I have been DEFENDING religion, I'm not tryingto convert anyone. Atheists on the other hand just won't leave us alone (which I have asked several times). They make threads making fun of religious people make jokes about them and then ask for proof like a thousand times a day (exaggeration of course). Then we say we rely on FAITH then they typically call us crazy and start the cycle of jokes, ridicule, and the asking of proof all over again. Then when we stick up for ourselves and ask you to prove your BELiEF of how the world was created and you guys always say IDK. Do you not see how unfair this is?why would i know what created the universe? i dont assume things just because i dont understand the concept. now your turn. please explain how the universe was created
sorry idk what question you are referring to
edit: oops i did answer the questions already haha
AGAIN, we say you are wrong because you claim god exists but have no evidence for it. we do not claim to know what happened before the universe was created. the only people that do that are religious people. we are saying its not okay to make up a god that created the universe just because we dont understand it. you have no reason to believe it, and i believe your religion as a whole harms society. it makes people ignorant while thinking they KNOW god created everything. and they make excuses for everything saying its in gods plan, or we should pray to make it better.
thats confusing. bottom line is nobody here claims to know what happened before the big bang besides you. and the only reason you believe that is faith.
nobody can ever prove god wrong. we can search every speck of the universe and you would still claim he exists outside the universe. or we can search forever and you can say he transcends time. its nothing but excuses to hide the fact your god is in your head. i know this because you cant prove hes not
yeah but the problem with that is you never find out. you just die and you would never know if you were wrong. the only thing that you can experience after death is heaven(if its real). if heaven isnt real, then you experience nothing. so you cannot experience being wrong after death.
where did you go to school man? i hope your over 30 because you should know this stuff.
we ask because you believe god is real and jesus was him, etc. when we ask how you know, you say you just believe it and have faith. wtf kind of excuse is that?
because we think it is crazy to believe and defend something as much as you do all based on faith. no rational person would believe in it
we know how the earth was created. i put the quote up in this post.
Argument from ignorance (appeal to ignorance, argumentum ad ignorantiam): assuming that a claim is true (or false) because it has not been proven false (true) or cannot be proven false (true).
straw man
argumentum verbosium
no knowledge? more than likely i know way more than you about this shit considerin ive been religious and now i am not. so when you take the time to go on the other side of the fence and educate yourself dont come at me talkin bout you arent listenin to me cause i have no knowledge HAHA you're not listenin cause you're high up your ass in these forums and im new. if you wanna be real thats why. you're soo quick to say such as the big bang didnt happen cause they have no proof, yet you full foward worship someone that you've never seen, heard, or talked to. step into reality dude im not tryin to be an ass, but when i see some dude typin novels out then when i ask a question he types more to tell me he isnt gonna type that out go look for it i was all for havin a real debate till you did that dumb shit
instead of wrong, i should have said have false claims.
nope. he has said a few times all he has is faith
do you not think it is crazy to truly believe there is a flying spaghetti monster in the sky? is that rational?
I've met Richard Dawkins several times, read almost all his books (got 'em signed, too) been to several lectures and an Atheist convention at Cal Tech. Dawkins is a firm believer that labeling a child with their parents' religion is tantamount to child abuse. Did you bring up attending a Dawkins event to state that you don't agree with him?
Alright if you were up to a real debate then I'm sorry. Also I'm a fan of science I was jug asking for the atheists views on the creation of the universe. But seriously did you find out how the universe was created? Once again I apologize I thought you were just here to shoot religious people down.
Why are there atheists conventions? I mean all they have in common is the lack of belief in a god or deity. Or is it like an anti-religion convention? Just curious.
<<<Nice What convinces me? MY testimony/ is just what I observed so it is specific to me, yours is your life how do I challenge what you went thru?
Good question, Hep. The American Atheists organization http://www.atheists.org (and a few others) hold conventions to support atheists' civil rights and to promote the separation of church and state. They discuss effective ways to overcome the threat of creationism being taught schools, and politics/politicians who have anti-science agendas. There's also a healthy dose of the latest scientific data, skepticism and debunking of lots of different kinds of bullshit like pseudo-science and conspiracy theory, and promote critical thinking. Some of the world's greatest minds show up, even intelligent theists attend for civil debate. They are awesome, and I wish I could afford to attend more of them...
its all good man. my stand on it all is i dont know. i dunno if there is a god or if it was the big bang and i also dont know if god made us or if we're just product of stardust collectin into planets in our solar system. for example we wouldnt be here if our solar system didnt form the way it did. examples our molten core that give a strong magnetic field around the earth protectin us from mini meteorites and the suns radiation, we're just in the right spot distance wise from the sun, jupiter that keeps asteroids from hittin us by its strong ass gravity, the moon keepin us on the perfect axis to sustain life, the fact the sun and moon are the same size in the sky, just soooo many little things that have to be perfectly in line those kinda things make me think a higher power is at work. then i say well given we know that we have billions of stars in the known univere so all those specific situation occurin by chance is a possibility. like bill maher i preach the word of i dont know lol
That's cool, is it just for atheists? Like do people from different religions show up and debate with them? If so I would like to go... Ha I would probably be kicked out, but seriously sounds interesting.
there r different degrees of Christs followers should not b but there is a growth period for all earth inhabitants and a maturing process. tha
we r all sinner and fall short of the Glory of God. there is non righteous no not one. we must draw men as paul write i become all things to all men so to draw them to Christ. CHILDREN OF LIGHT DUH. God Grace until the coming of Jesus, they can be saved, but not by these harsh references. you have sinned and god say it is better for u to tie a millstone around ur neck and throw it into the river than for you to mislead one of these His little ones (babes in Christ). repent!!!
THERE NO ONE SINGLE THING THOUGH. THATS THE GREATNESS AND GOODNESS OF OUR FATHER. HE IS THE GOD OF ABUNDANCE, THE gOD OF MORE THAN ENOUGH
sorry to say there is a god. It is going to be very interesting to see yours and all the other faces of those on the left when they see our king coming in his glory and when they have to sit and give an account at the judgement seat. Its funny how u think we just sprang to existence and the process doesnt happen now (evolution). And we can only explore our galaxy but there b billions of them and we havent explored our own planets oceans or explain and prevent catastrophic episodes. Yea of little mind and ways jer 55
