what is it that convinces you ?

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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what is it that convinces you personaly to believe in the god you believe in , what is the one single thing that confirms in YOUR mind that your god exists and you want to worship him/her/it? .
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
In my instance, it is the relentless certainty (the term "faith" is appropriate) that ... I am my meat.
cheers 'neer
 
diesel15

diesel15

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through proof. not in terms of heres proof right here in black n white on paper by scientist -----. but through searchin for proof by myself for myself.. you see God's way is the way to life that'll keep you from violence, and destruction. ''if'' you truly search for him, he'll reveal himself to you. sativa high, your searchin for God's truth whether you know it or not.
 
sen.c

sen.c

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Morgan, you at it again? Thought you couldn't stand these discussions, see you later I guess.
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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diesel15 said:
through proof. not in terms of heres proof right here in black n white on paper by scientist -----. but through searchin for proof by myself for myself.. you see God's way is the way to life that'll keep you from violence, and destruction. ''if'' you truly search for him, he'll reveal himself to you. sativa high, your searchin for God's truth whether you know it or not.
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why does your god play silly games ? why do you need to SEARCH for the guy ? why dosent he just reveal himself ? it all seems a bit silly to me , all i ever hear from religious people is 'i can see him ' 'you just need faith ' 'your searching for his love ' .........what a load of bull , is your god some kind of sadistic weirdo who likes to fuck with your mind ? ....................'only you can see god when hes ready to show himself ' ' god works in mysterious ways ' 'your just a human why should god reveal himself to you ' its all nonsense and i cant believe in 2011 theres still people who fall this trickery , according to you your god made us its him who put us here to worship him , yet here i am supposedly having to search for him lol ........................oh and P.S i dont need religion to keep me from violence and destruction , why do people feel they need a god to behave well ? dont you trust yourself ?
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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hostility? are you real?

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/449547-lets-debate.html

that should be enough for you to know that you are not chill and a cool dude. why is that you are always trying to start shit about religion? You always seem to say, "oh religious nut jobs, why do you shove your shit in our face?" when you are the one always starting shit around here.



ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
olylifter420 said:
cause i dont want to be an asshole athesit like you.[/QUOT

wow such hostility and hatred , is this what religion does to people ? im not an ashole just cause i dont believe what you were taught growing up ................, im a really chill guy .
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Morgan Lynn

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I went to an event called "Nonbelievers giving aid" it was a fundrasier for Japan after their massive earthquake. I got to meet Richard Dawkins, a world renouned evolutionary biologist and avid atheist. We discussed several topics as a group. The first was, atheist morality and where it comes from. Personally, I have never been raised religious. My parents never talked about Jesus or God. I was born an atheist and stayed an atheist under my own descretion. My morality was learned from my non-religious parents. Personally, I think we would still have morality even if religion was eradicated, not everyone feels thats true and thats ok with me.

Our second discussion was on eliminating religion or "beating" the religious at their own game. By this time, even though I think Richard is brilliant, they lost me. I don't need to "beat" anyone. I certainly don't want people to feel they can't practice their religion openly and I CERTAINLY do not want prayer or creationism taken out of school. Even though I am a full supporter of evolution, creationism is a huge part of peoples lives and it should be left in schools. Prayer on the other hand is a right. just as I think freedom from religion is a right, praying is a right as well. So, if people are offended at other religions look the other way and mind your own business.

I can poke fun time to time about religion and I snicker but overall I respect people and their religions. If they want to pray let them pray. If they don't like me because I'm an atheist oh well. Win some you lose some.
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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Morgan Lynn said:
I went to an event called "Nonbelievers giving aid" it was a fundrasier for Japan after their massive earthquake. I got to meet Richard Dawkins, a world renouned evolutionary biologist and avid atheist. We discussed several topics as a group. The first was, atheist morality and where it comes from. Personally, I have never been raised religious. My parents never talked about Jesus or God. I was born an atheist and stayed an atheist under my own descretion. My morality was learned from my non-religious parents. Personally, I think we would still have morality even if religion was eradicated, not everyone feels thats true, and thats ok with me.

the problem with your liberal veiws is that religion indocrinates children ,i would have no problem if religion was left to adults to do in private , but its religious people who pester us in our homes , build there religious buildings ,preach in our streets , threaten us with hell , start wars in the name of there religion .
there are actualy young children who are frightend by religious nonsense thinking they are being watched and if they do wrong they will burn in hell ...........is this how we want children to feel ? whats wrong with leaving all religion out of our schools ?
Our second discussion was on eliminating religion or "beating" the religious at their own game. By this time, even though I think Richard is brilliant, they lost me. I don't need to "beat" anyone. I certainly don't want people to feel they can't practice their religion openly and I CERTAINLY do not want prayer or creationism taken out of school. Even though I am a full supporter of evolution, creationism is a huge part of peoples lives and it should be left in schools. Prayer on the other hand is a right. just as I think freedom from religion is a right, praying is a right as well. So, if people are offended at other religions look the other way and mind your own business.

I can poke fun time to time about religion and I snicker but overall I respect people and their religions. If they want to pray let them pray. If they don't like me because I'm an atheist oh well. Win some you lose some.
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the problem with your liberal veiws is that religion indocrinates children ,i would have no problem if religion was left to adults to do in private , but its religious people who pester us in our homes , build there religious buildings ,preach in our streets , threaten us with hell , start wars in the name of there religion .
there are actualy young children who are frightend by religious nonsense thinking they are being watched and if they do wrong they will burn in hell ...........is this how we want children to feel ? whats wrong with leaving all religion out of our schools ?
 
diesel15

diesel15

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
why does your god play silly games ? why do you need to SEARCH for the guy ? why dosent he just reveal himself ? it all seems a bit silly to me , all i ever hear from religious people is 'i can see him ' 'you just need faith ' 'your searching for his love ' .........what a load of bull , is your god some kind of sadistic weirdo who likes to fuck with your mind ? ....................'only you can see god when hes ready to show himself ' ' god works in mysterious ways ' 'your just a human why should god reveal himself to you ' its all nonsense and i cant believe in 2011 theres still people who fall this trickery , according to you your god made us its him who put us here to worship him , yet here i am supposedly having to search for him lol ........................oh and P.S i dont need religion to keep me from violence and destruction , why do people feel they need a god to behave well ? dont you trust yourself ?
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like isaid Gods way is the way to life. Humans have finite minds how can a finite mind understand a infinite mind ?
 
Nusky

Nusky

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The more I do psychedelics the more I realize we're all interconnected and that god exists in some form. I took ayahusca and it felt like there was a female god watching my every move. It was a weird feeling, I just felt watched.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Morgan Lynn said:
Our second discussion was on eliminating religion or "beating" the religious at their own game. By this time, even though I think Richard is brilliant, they lost me. I don't need to "beat" anyone. I certainly don't want people to feel they can't practice their religion openly and I CERTAINLY do not want prayer or creationism taken out of school. Even though I am a full supporter of evolution, creationism is a huge part of peoples lives and it should be left in schools. Prayer on the other hand is a right. just as I think freedom from religion is a right, praying is a right as well. So, if people are offended at other religions look the other way and mind your own business.
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Where do you find creationism in school? Where exactly do we need to leave it? Do you think it should be taught? .... in science class?

No one has ever said a student cannot pray in school. Do you agree with schools leading students in prayer? Should teachers be allowed to discuss their religion with students to the point of proselytizing? If not, where do you make the cut?
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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i found religion in school to be very confusing and quite frightning , there i was trying to respect my teachers ,and look upto them , whilst they were teaching me rediculous storys from the bible wich even at 5 years old i could see massive flaws , shouldnt a teacher be there to teach us things that are true and things that will help us in life ? i can remember seriousley doubting anything my teacher had to say , after she forced me to say lords prayer before dinner.
 
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