What if coffee were like ObamaCare?

schuylaar said:

which make you crazier than a loon

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UncleBuck said:

the politics section is beginning to read like the inbox from my grandpa's aol.com account, with the added bonus that when i click on a topic, now i get to see old man ginwilly frantically trying to hump a sock drawer while kynes videotapes and shouts encouragement.

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canndo said:

Libertarian concepts rely on reaction rather than preemption and for this reason alone, they cannot work. Furthermore libertarian ideals ignore the collective unless it suits them to see individuals as a collective - this makes little sense and again, what it does is cast away individuals who are caught in the mechanisms of a "libertarian" machine of action and reaction.

For instance. 1000 people die of E. coli from a meat packing plant. If it is a given (which it is not) that information is freely and truthfully spread througout, no one will continue to purchase from that plant and it will either correct it's ways or go out of business. However, 1000 people, individuals, have died and libertarianism is now depending not upon individuals to stop the spread of E. Coli, but a collective - or "class" of "those who eat meat". Again, it cost at least 1000 people to correct the error or omission of a single outlet.

The next point of failure is in civil litigation. without a strong government, corrective tort actions cannot be effective and again, corrections under a libertarian system again become reactionary rather than premeptive.

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desert dude said:

Libertarians (and libertarians) support civil litigation. Libertarians (and libertarians) are not anarchists, we recognize and embrace the need for laws and government, we just don't want the all powerful, preemptive government you seem so fond of. History is littered with government run amok preempting stuff.

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abandonconflict said:

By regularly scheduled madness I guess you mean a 15 person house hold.

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canndo said:

Rice has been a tool for monied interests since day one. She has some grave moral issues as well. Much as I admire her accomplishments and abilities, I could not see her making much of her term as president.

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abandonconflict said:

Yes actually, a far right republican is exactly what you are.

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Dr Kynes said:

actually my current household is 3, down from 4 a few months ago when my brother and his girlfreind got their own place, but my mother moved in until her house is finished.

maximum occupancy of my house EVER, even during the holidays: 12.

but next week i'm sure i'll be living in a 30 hobo flop, or a smoke filled cave jammed with degenerate neanderthals.

for you, reductio ad retardum is an art form, let's see how far you can take it.

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UncleBuck said:

the politics section is beginning to read like the inbox from my grandpa's aol.com account, with the added bonus that when i click on a topic, now i get to see old man ginwilly frantically trying to hump a sock drawer while kynes videotapes and shouts encouragement.

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UncleBuck said:

yeah, kinda like when the federal government preemptively stopped southern states from disenfranchising blacks. i know how much that one chaps your elderly ass.

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Rob Roy said:

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What specifically don't you like about Libertarians? Note I used a capital L, to differentiate between the political party members and the small l libertarians.

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ginwilly said:

AFTER the federal government disenfranchised blacks first. You govangelicals are the worst. "We need the government to fix the problems caused by the government!"

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schuylaar said:

It's kinda of a toss up as to who's the biggest racist of all time..the Tea or Libertarians for one..

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desert dude said:

Libertarians (and libertarians) support civil litigation. Libertarians (and libertarians) are not anarchists, we recognize and embrace the need for laws and government, we just don't want the all powerful, preemptive government you seem so fond of. History is littered with government run amok preempting stuff.

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Rob Roy said:

Seeing people collectively, rather than as individuals is a trait used by racists.

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UncleBuck said:

historical revisionism from ginwilly the southern racist.

jim crow practices were the domain of southern STATES, not the federal government.

recall that the standard of "preclearance" was limited to those states who were the offenders, and the offenders were given every chance to remove themselves from the preclearance list by showing fair voting standards.

50 years later, and most of those states simply couldn't do it because they were filled with residents LIKE YOU.

at least try to get your history you, you blithering fucktard.

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schuylaar said:

It's kinda of a toss up as to who's the biggest racist of all time..the Tea or Libertarians for one..

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ginwilly said:

So is it your assertion that the FEDERAL government had nothing to do with slavery? Was it strictly geographical opposition to civil rights in the 50's? Did the Supreme Court make some rulings on a FEDERAL level that had to be undone later? Instead of fighting this history fight, you should do what most dems are doing and saying yeah but that was then... You can't even be honest enough for that. Honesty and integrity is not really your thing is it.

You shouldn't call people revisionists and racist while you are lying and flying your bigot colors. It makes you look small, really small. Since you've shown you lack the intelligence and integrity to have an honest debate, feel free to use your go to and yell RACIST!!

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Dr Kynes said:

actually the democrat party dominates that category.

[hundreds of years old nonsense]

i could continue, but what bother?

democrats rarely accept the truth.

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