in a pooling..you cannot "carve out"..everyone has a mandatory 10 points of coverage..females get ob/gyn and males get their viagara cialis testosterone etc..i don't understand why you can't grasp this concept..you're in the medical field..in reality you are not paying for both..there's no such thing as "female only coverage" or "male only coverage"..the 10-points of coverage are what the government has determined that is required for wellness to...wait for it....circumvent deadly disease and conditions that could lead to the disease.
What if coffee were like ObamaCare?
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ginwilly
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I'll most likely be voting 3rd party again. Hillary has shown herself to be "upwardly mobile" in her actions so far. I don't trust her and Uncle Joe will bring the hammer to the prelims exposing even more about her. If the pubs continue with the "next man up" philosophy then it's just more of the McCain, Romney types and I can't vote for them either. After she told the father of one of the Benghazi victims that "we'll get those responsible, for that awful video" in the hangar where his dead son was being transported, I couldn't vote for her for the local PTA. She's slime.
Funny thing is, I'm actually pro-union myself for the private sector. I see nothing wrong with people voluntarily collective bargaining and see the many benefits. Public sector unions should be outlawed though.
Hillary could be the most intelligent candidate we've seen in awhile, the debates will be fun.
ChesusRice
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I'm with you on Hillary
jahbrudda
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I agree, canndo sticks to the issues, I respect that as well.
ginwilly
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You could have just said "for the greater good" and saved some typing.
Why is ob/gyn care more important than food? shouldn't we pool that too? how about shelter? surely food and shelter are more important. Why isn't insulin "free"? people will surely die without it. This greater good stuff gets tricky. The war on drugs is for "the greater good" too, surely you understand this.
You keep insisting these 10 points are for the public's own good and not a windfall for insurance companies yet haven't explained how, other than it's cheaper if everyone has to pay. Can you at least admit you only support the rights for that woman you deem worthy? PC=MM in practice.
canndo
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I can't comment upon my vote until I see who the other side mounts on their temporary pedestal. Knowing what I know about our current president, unhappy as he has made me, I would STILL vote for him over a Romney. Should the right ever put up a reasonable man with reasonable ideas then I guarantee you I will be as suckered for him as I was for Obama - and I will always be so fooled because I choose to be an optimist.
As far as unions, I as well have a problem with public sector unions, except that they are the last toe hold of unions in general and until that changes, they will have to be supported. The wealthy and big business have managed to cut our collective (I know you don't like that word) voices to the quick. And unless that changes, and right fast, we will be in far worse shape than we are now.
jahbrudda
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Being pro union in the private sector is being pro choice, if workers want to be part of a collective bargaining agreement, that is their right, no one else's.
I can't say the same for public unions though.
if hillary runs, joe won't..honestly i like elizabeth warren..hillary has had the right exposure for leadership and of course, we get bill..elizabeth is not there yet.
hillary is the heir apparent.
that's okay cheesie..you may come around still..it's not yet 2016
ginwilly
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Warren has some catchy soundbites. "You didn't build that" will always be her claim to fame, but presidential material? Someone who belittles the accomplishments of the private sector while promoting an increased nanny state will get killed in debates. If we are going to vote for a woman for the sake of her being a woman, let's get Condi to run. In fact, she would have been the best candidate the last 4 election cycles. Mucho respect for the Augusta National member.
Dr Kynes
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disagree with democrats for ANY reason and you become a "republican" and they start using idiotic claims from comedy shows to hurl ad hominems at you.
sounds legit.
canndo
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Rice has been a tool for monied interests since day one. She has some grave moral issues as well. Much as I admire her accomplishments and abilities, I could not see her making much of her term as president.
Dr Kynes
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annnnnd you miss the point entirely.
Libertarians are their own separate group who side with the left on some issues, and side with the right on other issues.
they are not secret republicans, they are not cowardly conservatives, they are not out of touch fringey lunatics, thats how the ultra lefties label them and try to negate them.
they are also not "old white racists who refuse to die" nor are libertarians the anti-gay christian fundamentalist windbags of the "moral majority"
i dont know why you felt the need to drag out the crayolas and plaster your post with time magazine covers just to highlight your ignorance, but you did, so i can only assume you are a few posts away from endlessly repeating "look at that", yammering about your toyota tundra's glovebox, and talking about your dick.
Dr Kynes
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you mean she is a sell out, an uncle tom (aunt jemima?) an oreo, or a house negro?
what "grave moral issues" does she have, save disagreement with the left's agenda?
why dont you just say what you fucking mean.
canndo
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I don't give a damn what color she is. I don't say what I mean at times because I would have to go research and refresh my memory. Not going to do that on Bush era issues today thank you.
Note that I never engage in race discussions, I find it unproductive and certainly disrupting to normal conversations.
abandonconflict
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Yes actually, a far right republican is exactly what you are.
Dr Kynes
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so youre in honduras now...
did you finally break down and join The Shining Path?
abandonconflict
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He's right. You are not a libertarian, you're a statist who thinks that the constitution is holy writ. Democrats are liberal which is not socialist at all but a center right wing ideology of private capitalism.
Dr Kynes
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The preceding message was brought you by the Salvadore Dali of political philosophy.
and now back to our regularly scheduled madness.
abandonconflict
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By regularly scheduled madness I guess you mean a 15 person house hold.