What has Trump done to this country?

DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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schuylaar said:
i'm boycotting and still going to the end of the line until every minority patient who wants one gets one..I'm also going to write to CocaCola in Atlanta personally but Joe will do something Federally because he can and fate has brought us here..sometimes as you get older you realize what must be done.

This is where you say let the cards fall where they may..'i don't give a fuck' (bipartisanship)..you just do it..it's for the people and not the bloated republican corpse clinging to a host.
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This where the real battle lines are drawn, the republicans know it will fuck them, but that's because of their behavior and nothing else. The minorities are strong in the democratic party, particularly African Americans, the old days of compromise are over, even with Manchin playing blue dog for the folks back home. If they are gonna break the filibuster they might as well go all out and pass only popular legislation, if it polls above a super majority and will help them get elected, go for it. Save anything controversial until after 2022 and only if ya win the senate and keep or increase in the house, ya gotta win power before you can shift the needle. Many American now know what they are up against and are willing to be patient, they know the republicans cannot be trusted with power, priorities must be carefully set.

Joe might be able to split the republican senate yet, if their party continues to go off the deep end and they might limit the filibuster, but still keep it for that purpose. They only need a few republican senators to break ranks and sit as independents in a party that is imploding.
 
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schuylaar

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DIY-HP-LED said:
This where the real battle lines are drawn, the republicans know it will fuck them, but that's because of their behavior and nothing else. The minorities are strong in the democratic party, particularly African Americans, the old days of compromise are over, even with Manchin playing blue dog for the folks back home. If they are gonna break the filibuster they might as well go all out and pass only popular legislation, if it polls above a super majority and will help them get elected, go for it. Save anything controversial until after 2022 and only if ya win the senate and keep or increase in the house, ya gotta win power before you can shift the needle. Many American now know what they are up against and are willing to be patient, they know the republicans cannot be trusted with power, priorities must be carefully set.

Joe might be able to split the republican senate yet, if their party continues to go off the deep end and they might limit the filibuster, but still keep it for that purpose. They only need a few republican senators to break ranks and sit as independents in a party that is imploding.
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You know I wasn't a fan of Biden but we are in the most unique position I'm giddy and I know Joe and Kamala are too.

paraphrased from his first speech 'I'm here to change the paradigm'..and that he will. + you heard how he handled media..domenstic and foreign he knows the players..he's not going to be your parents cup 'o Joe.


he spoke softly then punched it..he gave a little history lesson in how this country was formed and he yelled 'UNIONS'.

woe the republicans.
 
topcat

topcat

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TacoMac said:
He's losing weight too. Seriously, check out some of the newer pics of him. He's not looking very good.
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Gravity is not his friend. We'll see his skin flow away from his skull. I get a macabre feeling of satisfaction. Not a good look for a candidate for office.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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schuylaar said:
You know I wasn't a fan of Biden but we are in the most unique position I'm giddy and I know Joe and Kamala are too.

paraphrased from his first speech 'I'm here to change the paradigm'..and that he will. + you heard how he handled media..domenstic and foreign he knows the players..he's not going to be your parents cup 'o Joe.

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Joe is the kinda guy who grows on ya and from the republicans POV he is dangerous to their white base, the nice old man is white as snow, is non threatening to them and is doing a pretty good job. Trump wasn't a hard act to follow, Joe's rival for excellence, integrity and professionalism is Obama. If they beat covid by summer/fall, recover and grow the economy (post pandemic surge, some folks have lots of extra cash), bring justice to Trump and the rest of the assholes, pass popular legislation and regulate media more, they might win big in 2022. First thing though they need HR-1 and voters rights.

Usually the presidents party loses ground in an off year election, but I think Joe will have very long coattails, provided he keeps up the good work. They can even do limited things on guns that are popular even among gun owners, common sense things like background checks, no fly no own and a few others. Many Americans now apprehend the real and present danger the republicans represent to democracy and the constitution, they must be kept out of power while tide shifts further to the patriots. There is no right or left here, there are patriots and fascists, right and left can only fight it out peacefully in a democracy where the majority rules and the minority are protected by the constitution. Normal politics requires enough good will and character to play by the rules, there is no good will on the right.

The left in America should stand back for a spell and watch the right dig their own political graves. When your enemy is digging his own grave don't get in the way, wait until he is buried.
 
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CCGNZ

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I'm pretty sure allied intelligence agencies have recordings of Putin's private conversations with Trump and phone calls too, it would be their number one priority.
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Biden now has access to Trump’s secretive phone calls with Putin – DeadState

Biden now has access to Trump’s secretive phone calls with Putin

Now that Joe Biden has taken the mantle of the presidency, he can see for himself what information was exchanged during former President Trump’s secretive phone calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin, POLITICO reports.

“They don’t need our approval to see those [records],” a former Trump White House official told POLITICO, referring Biden’s national security team. “Biden owns all the call materials. There is only one president at a time.”

A former national security official who is close to Biden said that it’s a “national security priority” to find out what Trump said to Putin.

“Some things, like what happened in some face-to-face meetings where no American translator or note-taker was present, may never be fully known. But I would be very surprised if the new national security team were not trying to access,” the former official added.

Trump went to great lengths to keep his conversations with Putin private, even confiscating his interpreter’s notes.

“This is much bigger than just Russia and Putin,” said another former Trump administration official. “It’s a problem across the board for the new team — basically, trying to find out, what did [Trump] promise people left right and center?”
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Damn, DIY the relationship between those two was just downright nauscious, never seen a US Pres. in such a compromising , serviant, bitchlike position w/Russian leader. Made me want to vomit, and this is from someone who believes we could have handled post cold war environment with a little more humility towards Russia. If the US reacted more humbly and did less chest thumping (WE WON THE COLD WAR!!!!) then we could have a more amicable relationship w/Russia. A little respect goes a long way.ccguns
 
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CCGNZ

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schuylaar said:
You know I wasn't a fan of Biden but we are in the most unique position I'm giddy and I know Joe and Kamala are too.

paraphrased from his first speech 'I'm here to change the paradigm'..and that he will. + you heard how he handled media..domenstic and foreign he knows the players..he's not going to be your parents cup 'o Joe.


he spoke softly then punched it..he gave a little history lesson in how this country was formed and he yelled 'UNIONS'.

woe the republicans.
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I too wasn't big on Joe in 80's+90's, kind of started growing on me as a VP, bet he wishes he didn't back out in 2016, Imagine if we could erase the 4sad +destructive yrs. of the CHEETOMAN'S Adm.But damage done. Biden has grown on me similarly to Jimmy Carter, as a early teen I was ignorant about him, thought he was a clown w/that smile of his, as a adult my knowledge of him grew immensely and I've come to think of him as a great man. Soft spoken,well mannered,b.belt in judo, nuclear engineer etc,didNt know any of this and his Habitat for Humanity service along w/his wife is off the charts,how mistaken I was in my adolescence. He has been nothing but CLASS in his day's since leaving office others would do well to follow his example, a life well lived.ccguns
 
smokinrav

smokinrav

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CCGNZ said:
I too wasn't big on Joe in 80's+90's, kind of started growing on me as a VP, bet he wishes he didn't back out in 2016, Imagine if we could erase the 4sad +destructive yrs. of the CHEETOMAN'S Adm.But damage done. Biden has grown on me similarly to Jimmy Carter, as a early teen I was ignorant about him, thought he was a clown w/that smile of his, as a adult my knowledge of him grew immensely and I've come to think of him as a great man. Soft spoken,well mannered,b.belt in judo, nuclear engineer etc,didNt know any of this and his Habitat for Humanity service along w/his wife is off the charts,how mistaken I was in my adolescence. He has been nothing but CLASS in his day's since leaving office others would do well to follow his example, a life well lived.ccguns
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Biden is, and will ever be, a war on drugs warrior. He's almost fucking 80 and virtually created the War on Some Drugs in the Reagan administration
 
CunningCanuk

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CCGNZ said:
I too wasn't big on Joe in 80's+90's, kind of started growing on me as a VP, bet he wishes he didn't back out in 2016, Imagine if we could erase the 4sad +destructive yrs. of the CHEETOMAN'S Adm.But damage done. Biden has grown on me similarly to Jimmy Carter, as a early teen I was ignorant about him, thought he was a clown w/that smile of his, as a adult my knowledge of him grew immensely and I've come to think of him as a great man. Soft spoken,well mannered,b.belt in judo, nuclear engineer etc,didNt know any of this and his Habitat for Humanity service along w/his wife is off the charts,how mistaken I was in my adolescence. He has been nothing but CLASS in his day's since leaving office others would do well to follow his example, a life well lived.ccguns
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Carter is definitely a great man who’s presidency was underrated, IMO.
 
TacoMac

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smokinrav said:
Biden is, and will ever be, a war on drugs warrior. He's almost fucking 80 and virtually created the War on Some Drugs in the Reagan administration
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You really do just make shit up as you go along, don't you?

First off, Nixon created the war on drugs, not Reagan.

Secondly, the only drug legislation Joe Biden pioneered was in the 1994 crime bill under Bill Clinton.

That legislation is what created the disparity in sentencing guidelines on crack cocaine.

Arguably one of the most misguided laws ever written, yes, but again none of it had anything to do with Reagan, the 80's or the war on drugs.
 
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CCGNZ

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TacoMac said:
You really do just make shit up as you go along, don't you?

First off, Nixon created the war on drugs, not Reagan.

Secondly, the only drug legislation Joe Biden pioneered was in the 1994 crime bill under Bill Clinton.

That legislation is what created the disparity in sentencing guidelines on crack cocaine.

Arguably one of the most misguided laws ever written, yes, but again none of it had anything to do with Reagan, the 80's or the war on drugs.
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Hey, man, you OK,twisters ripped through Georgia, none of that scary shit in MA, just have to sweat out Hurricane season a little bit.ccguns
 
TacoMac

TacoMac

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None of that hit anywhere near here. But thanks for asking.

That was in Coweta County around Newnan, Georgia about 80 miles southwest of me.

They got hit hard though. Amazing more people weren't killed.
 
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CCGNZ

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CunningCanuk said:
Biden is a like the great taco. He thinks weed is evil too.
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Can't have everything bro, besides he's got waaay bigger fish to fry, Never seen a incoming ADM. w/so much on the plate, hope at almost 80 he can hang for possibly 8 yrs. Unless Leon Panetta could be coaxed into the job, always thought he had perfect qualities,experience,and demeanor to be a ex. Pres.ccguns
 
CunningCanuk

CunningCanuk

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CCGNZ said:
Can't have everything bro, besides he's got waaay bigger fish to fry, Never seen a incoming ADM. w/so much on the plate, hope at almost 80 he can hang for possibly 8 yrs. Unless Leon Panetta could be coaxed into the job, always thought he had perfect qualities,experience,and demeanor to be a ex. Pres.ccguns
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It’s all good. I’m glad Biden’s there and that he’s focusing on the pandemic.
 
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CCGNZ

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CunningCanuk said:
Carter is definitely a great man who’s presidency was underrated, IMO.
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The FN Iranians rubbed his face in it, and the rescue mission sure didn't help, the economy well I liken that to paddling out on a surfboard for a wave(who knows what kind of wave you'll catch) the Pres. 4yrs. are'nt really enough time to really change much and they are heavily influenced by their predecessors actions.Look at CHEETOMAN, he claims all Stock Market success when it was soaring previously under Obama.ccguns
 
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