What do you folks think will really happen under a Rmoney admistration?

Romney says we have universal health care now, It's call the emergency room. What a comment. That just shows the disconnect. Emergency room visits are such a huge cost. Who flips the bill for that? We do? So I don't understand if we are flipping the bill for emergency room visits, When everyone could pay 15-30 dollars a month based on income and be assured they have health care and they are taking responsibility for there health instead of us.
Also we don't live in preventative care society, we live in a cure the sickness society. I mean when I went to school, there were a couple fat kids, and they were fat cause it was in there genes. Everyone else was skinny. I look at kids now and most of them are chubby and fat. I live close to a middle school and they have a track, and half the kids are fat, winded and walking around the track. Until we take personal responsibility for our health and not have the food industry hypnotize us with all the processed foods, we will see a increase in health care. And the tax payers will be on the hook for those cost.

Peace,
Salt
 
Not letting insurance kick people to medicaid, as they would if they could, saves the tax payer money. Insurance already benefits from medicare, they collect your premiums for 20+ years, then you turn 65 and medicare picks up the lions share of your medical expenses.

I just had to get an MRI, and I couldn't schedule it until it was pre authorized through the insurance, the insurance took 3 weeks to eventually authorize it. If I didn't have prior authorization, in the fine print, the insurance will decline paying and you get a bill for thousands of dollars (I hit my insurance with more than $20k in bills this year). While waiting I looked up what to do if they decline authorization, obamacare gives you the ability to request a qualified 3rd party to review your appeal.

Either way, making the "private" insurance keep their losers saves the tax payer money because those people would be on medicaid if the insurance could drop them.

60% of bankruptcies are due to medical bills for people WITH health insurance.
 
Obamacare is a stupid joke.

Why does my Universal Healthcare cost 5x less per capita and yours is primarily (supposedly) privately funded?

Obama needs to throw his giant ears up and listen, single payer or no payer, cos Obamacare is a scam for the benefit of insurance companies.

Mitt Romneys idea is retarded too, considering it still costs more per capita than my Universal Healthcare.

AND to keep the righties happy, if they want a private policy, give them a tax cut for a certain percentage of their premiums.
 
Addendum to above:

Certain provisions; no lifetime cap, preexisting conditions, etc (basic "humanitarian" shit) should STAY, but the forced coverage parts, etc are inconsistent with individual liberties and should be rejected by all.

The Free Market is awesome, it generally speaking is consistent and predictable...however sometimes (like a teenager/young adult) it needs "direction", which the above provisions provide for, but like teenagers/young adults, if you push it too hard it will push back to a net negative.

Just IMO.
 
An annual budget might put this country in the right direction. Mitt does have more experience than four years of utter failure running anything ...
 
TheMan13 said:
An annual budget might put this country in the right direction. Mitt does have more experience than four years of utter failure running anything ...
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In fairness, Mitt Romneys claims are as fantastical as Obamas in 08 when he said he'd cut the budget...I think we all know how that went.

Mitt Romneys main "policy" problem?

The Democrats will NEVER vote with him, the same as the Republitards won't vote with Obama.

Perhaps a third party, centrist, realist to unite or at least "make shit happen" between the two groups? Someone like the libertarian candidate who supports MMJ because he's used it?
 
Politics is just talk my friend and O has never made it past that level of the game. O has had his try, failed miserably and it's time to move forward ;)
 
TheMan13 said:
Politics is just talk my friend and O has never made it past that level of the game. O has had his try, failed miserably and it's time to move forward ;)
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To Romney tho?

Seriously?

Newt Gingritch is LESS of a dick than Romney, and Newt is still a total dick.

Id rather let Sarah Palin run the WHOLE world.
 
Harrekin said:
To Romney tho?

Seriously?

Newt Gingritch is LESS of a dick than Romney, and Newt is still a total dick.

Id rather let Sarah Palin run the WHOLE world.
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Lol, Palin the Conqueror.

Newt would have been a blast in the debates that's for sure.
 
canndo said:
Obama care will be repealed? resulting in lots of folks being thrown off of their health insurace plans
Roe V wade overturned - many states will make abortion illegal
FEMA gutted
Iran invaded
Marijuana growers hunted down and jailed
Marijuana smokers jailed as well
Debt and deficit increased
Taxes will be raised for those making under 250 thousand - no, not federaly, but because the states will have federal plans foisted off on them, they will be forced to pay.

Fees raised

the cost of fuel will remain where it is while our federal resources will be pumped out of the ground and shipped to other countries

Large financial institutions will return to screwing us.
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the Affordable Health Care for America Act
will not take place until 2014
 
Wow, what a bunch of Fear and Doubt. Romney said very clearly Cannabis is a states rights issue. We are borrowing too much money to pay for social engineering and welfare.

It's bad enough we have to borrow money to fund our military to protect the money we borrow. But, China is glad to have us defend the oil tanker routes to their partners they sell their goods to. They don't mind lending money for that.
 
Doer said:
Wow, what a bunch of Fear and Doubt. Romney said very clearly Cannabis is a states rights issue. We are borrowing too much money to pay for social engineering and welfare.

It's bad enough we have to borrow money to fund our military to protect the money we borrow. But, China is glad to have us defend the oil tanker routes to their partners
they see their goods to.
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how about we rebuild the infrastructure and give jobs to those who are on food stamps. Wow that would be a constructive use of money imagine that.

If that was what we were using the tax money on i would be more then happy to pay higher taxes, but to just give it to someone it not right. They should have to do something even if its just picking up 1 soda can that someone littered.
That would be 45 million less pieces of litter per month. So you can see this adds up

so i am fine with paying more in taxes if the recipients are willing to do something in exchange, even if it is something small.
 
RyanTheRhino said:
how about we rebuild the infrastructure and give jobs to those who are on food stamps. Wow that would be a constructive use of money imagine that.

If that was what we were using the tax money on i would be more then happy to pay higher taxes, but to just give it to someone it not right. They should have to do something even if its just picking up 1 soda can that someone littered.
That would be 45 million less pieces of litter per month. So you can see this adds up

so i am fine with paying more in taxes if the recipients are willing to do something in exchange, even if it is something small.
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This is my argument as well.

Why do we just GIVE it to them? Not all of them are bedridden and unable to produce something for the free fuckin hand outs they are getting.

We would run out of welfare recipients before we ran out of work they could be doing to better our communities and nation as a whole. But instead we just give it to them, and they just take it and continue on in their useless path of consuming.
 
^^^^ careful now, those are some mighty liberal ideas you are espousing. What with FDR and the CCC and all.
 
Harrekin said:
cos Obamacare is a scam for the benefit of insurance companies.
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Could you elaborate on that part? Forcing insurance companies to keep their losers costs them more money than it otherwise would when they kicked the person to medicaid.

No longer being able to kick people for "pre existing" conditions costs the insurance a lot more money than it did pre-obamacare.

Having a review process that can force the insurance company to pay for procedures they are trying to deny costs them more money than it did pre-obamacare.

I guess because everyone would have to get insurance it's to the insurance companies benefit? But they get more losers along with winners and have to keep them. Losers being customers that have costly long term treatments, radiation, chemo, periodic imaging (MRI or CT or Angio), etc...

Shitty insurance policies aren't worth shit. I've had insurance (through employer) that declined to pay for a prescription for imitrex. With no appeal process they just flat out said nope.

Whole system is fucked. I got a bill for $10,203 for a single MRI/Angio image from Swedish Neuroscience. My insurance paid 20% of it and told them to take a hike, which they accepted. Everything is marked up insanely higher than what they end up getting for payment from the insurance.
 
Harrekin said:
To Romney tho?

Seriously?

Newt Gingritch is LESS of a dick than Romney, and Newt is still a total dick.

Id rather let Sarah Palin run the WHOLE world.
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True, everyone of those individuals have experience and a working record O clearly lacks. What's you point again?

A politician must actually DO SOMETHING USEFUL to be successful and or useful to "the people". O's political rhetoric was so good in 2008 that he not only won the Presidency but the fucking Nobel Peace Prize :peace: How does this mesh with your reality today - BENGAZI ...

Any hindsight on your boy John Edwards as we are talking successful political lefties here?

barack-obama-receives-nobel-peace-prize-photos.jpg edwards-two-americas.jpg

... reality is a bitch!
 
Padawanbater2 said:
Mitt Romney would be two steps backward.
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We'll see if the pubs learned anything from the Bushney debacle. It's a shame the dems will never admit to an Obama debacle let alone learn from it. If Romney turns into BushIII the republican party should be blown up.
 
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