What companies have best HPS/MH bulbs

BOBBY_G

BOBBY_G

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Yeah this forum is a great source

basically same rules
veg = high color temps 3500-6500K
bloom = low color temps = 2700-4000K
monochromatic LEDS ("monos") are useful as well

popular colors:
630,660, 730nm = bloom
430-465 nm = grow

10-40% blue generally depending if bloom or veg

the modern most efficient is "COB" (chip on board), where you need chip, heatsink, driver

start here

https://www.rollitup.org/t/cxb3590-1500w.878136/
 
Pat666

Pat666

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BOBBY_G said:
Yeah this forum is a great source

basically same rules
veg = high color temps 3500-6500K
bloom = low color temps = 2700-4000K
monochromatic LEDS ("monos") are useful as well

popular colors:
630,660, 730nm = bloom
430-465 nm = grow

10-40% blue generally depending if bloom or veg

the modern most efficient is "COB" (chip on board), where you need chip, heatsink, driver

start here

https://www.rollitup.org/t/cxb3590-1500w.878136/
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Thanks for all the info
 
Pat666

Pat666

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OneHitDone said:
And make sure you lock that dimmer knob on 11 - don't be dimming HID lamps!
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Is super the make for super hps or? And yeah your 2nd person to recommend the eye hortilux. Didn't realize you could flower under MH. If I had another light I'd use both during flower but since I don't I'll stick to hps for flower. I usually add a few CFL's during flower too for little extra light in those hard to reach places
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Pat666 said:
Is super the make for super hps or? And yeah your 2nd person to recommend the eye hortilux. Didn't realize you could flower under MH. If I had another light I'd use both during flower but since I don't I'll stick to hps for flower. I usually add a few CFL's during flower too for little extra light in those hard to reach places
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Most MH don't give the best Flowering results but this one will
http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/Metal-Halide#blue

And here is their Super HPS
http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/High-Pressure-Sodium#shps
 
sixstring2112

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Pat666 said:
View attachment 3738458 Hey it's time for me to replace my bulbs before my next grow and this is my first time having to buy bulbs my first set came with the light in a set. I'm just wondering what companies are known for producing good bulbs for the money? By the way looking for Metal Halide (MH)and High Pressure Sodium(HPS) bulbs. Also curios what experienced growers think about how often you should be replacing your bulbs when used in an average way like 18/6 and 12/12. I know some Autoflower growers obviously have there lights on more throughout a grow. Thanks in advance for your replies.
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these are what i use and i have tried them all.these hps have more blue spectrum than most and are alsdo good for veg so you would just need the one bulb.i replace all my bulbs every 6 months but you can run these longer.@ 6 months they still have the same lumen output as a new eye hort does(the 600w) so im sure the 400 is just as good.
https://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/digilux-hps-digital-grow-bulb.html
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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Pat666 said:
Is super the make for super hps or? And yeah your 2nd person to recommend the eye hortilux. Didn't realize you could flower under MH. If I had another light I'd use both during flower but since I don't I'll stick to hps for flower. I usually add a few CFL's during flower too for little extra light in those hard to reach places
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I used to flower under MH back in my old grow box, many an awesome crop with a 400 watter bulb,,, in fack my buds were thicker and heavier with my MH than my new cobs, but then again the bulb was twice the watts,,
I usually always steer people towards bulbs if they dont mind changing them between crops and dont mind the extra electricity, bulbs cost less up front and provide outstanding results,,,
if i was doing it again, i would just buy the same cheapy bulbs that came with your light the first time,, they are pretty cheap on ebay,,
have fun

:edit: if you ever look at led, do not look at the cheapy junk like mars hydro, or blurple lights, complete waste of time, stay with your 400 watter long before that junk,, cobs are the only way right now in led, but you would spend a shit ton of money on it, so again bulbs are probably the better way, its a fine line around here, and many a long thread on it, but most of the led guys will tell people to stay with the bulbs first,
 
Pat666

Pat666

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sixstring2112 said:
these are what i use and i have tried them all.these hps have more blue spectrum than most and are alsdo good for veg so you would just need the one bulb.i replace all my bulbs every 6 months but you can run these longer.@ 6 months they still have the same lumen output as a new eye hort does(the 600w) so im sure the 400 is just as good.
https://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/digilux-hps-digital-grow-bulb.html
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One bulb for whole grow ha? I like the sound of that. Thanks for the info
 
Pat666

Pat666

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Tim Fox said:
I used to flower under MH back in my old grow box, many an awesome crop with a 400 watter bulb,,, in fack my buds were thicker and heavier with my MH than my new cobs, but then again the bulb was twice the watts,,
I usually always steer people towards bulbs if they dont mind changing them between crops and dont mind the extra electricity, bulbs cost less up front and provide outstanding results,,,
if i was doing it again, i would just buy the same cheapy bulbs that came with your light the first time,, they are pretty cheap on ebay,,
have fun

:edit: if you ever look at led, do not look at the cheapy junk like mars hydro, or blurple lights, complete waste of time, stay with your 400 watter long before that junk,, cobs are the only way right now in led, but you would spend a shit ton of money on it, so again bulbs are probably the better way, its a fine line around here, and many a long thread on it, but most of the led guys will tell people to stay with the bulbs first,
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I've seen Mars hydro on RIU a lot and wondered about them but from your info looks like I don't need to. Thanks for heads up on LEDs.
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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Tim Fox said:
I used to flower under MH back in my old grow box, many an awesome crop with a 400 watter bulb,,, in fack my buds were thicker and heavier with my MH than my new cobs, but then again the bulb was twice the watts,,
I usually always steer people towards bulbs if they dont mind changing them between crops and dont mind the extra electricity, bulbs cost less up front and provide outstanding results,,,
if i was doing it again, i would just buy the same cheapy bulbs that came with your light the first time,, they are pretty cheap on ebay,,
have fun

:edit: if you ever look at led, do not look at the cheapy junk like mars hydro, or blurple lights, complete waste of time, stay with your 400 watter long before that junk,, cobs are the only way right now in led, but you would spend a shit ton of money on it, so again bulbs are probably the better way, its a fine line around here, and many a long thread on it, but most of the led guys will tell people to stay with the bulbs first,
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So are you partially suggesting that going to led is compromising bud quality to save electricity with led?
I have not seen led buds that just blew my mind like you see under top HID grows

I do believe that most all lamps will work but a Hortilux is a better quality piece with a better spectral output. Ushio and Philips I would consider top quality as well.
After seeing the iGrow Matt the Grow Guy pushing Digilux I would steer clear of those lol
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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OneHitDone said:
So are you partially suggesting that going to led is compromising bud quality to save electricity with led?
I have not seen led buds that just blew my mind like you see under top HID grows

I do believe that most all lamps will work but a Hortilux is a better quality piece with a better spectral output. Ushio and Philips I would consider top quality as well.
After seeing the iGrow Matt the Grow Guy pushing Digilux I would steer clear of those lol
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i was attempting to imply that both methods grow dope, and both methods will leave you sitting on your back porch with a big grin,, thats all really

:edit: i stopped getting into led / lep/ bulb / gavita debates long ago, grow with what method makes you happy, i have so much bud curring in jars, that it makes the whole merry go round pointless for me,,, but feel free the floor is your bro
 
sixstring2112

sixstring2112

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OneHitDone said:
So are you partially suggesting that going to led is compromising bud quality to save electricity with led?
I have not seen led buds that just blew my mind like you see under top HID grows

I do believe that most all lamps will work but a Hortilux is a better quality piece with a better spectral output. Ushio and Philips I would consider top quality as well.
After seeing the iGrow Matt the Grow Guy pushing Digilux I would steer clear of those lol
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bro i been using digilux since the day they came out.i run 12kw op and sometimes when i do my light order and i cant get all digilux i will order other shit like eye hort or ushio.i can say for certain those lamps are not as bright.do not have as much blue in them(hps) and do not hold lumen # nearly as long(measured with a light meter) . more than 5 years i been using them.
and i can also say the highest failure ratio i have ever seen on any brand is def by far ushio.i use multiple brand digital ballast and ushio is not picky about which one it blows on lol
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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sixstring2112 said:
bro i been using digilux since the day they came out.i run 12kw op and sometimes when i do my light order and i cant get all digilux i will order other shit like eye hort or ushio.i can say for certain those lamps are not as bright.do not have as much blue in them(hps) and do not hold lumen # nearly as long(measured with a light meter) . more than 5 years i been using them.
and i can also say the highest failure ratio i have ever seen on any brand is def by far ushio.i use multiple brand digital ballast and ushio is not picky about which one it blows on lol
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Speaking of ballasts, have you had any issues with certain brands and power surge/failures?
 
sixstring2112

sixstring2112

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OneHitDone said:
Speaking of ballasts, have you had any issues with certain brands and power surge/failures?
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I have some 6 year old nextgens that are slowly 1 by 1 crapping out every time we lose power but they are old imo. Other than that i have had two phantom digi ballast go down and the site i linked sent me new nanolux as a replacement, which i love.i have a bunch of lumitecs and those are all good.love the nanos because they all have a time delay and fire up at random so it helps with power draw at startup
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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sixstring2112 said:
I have some 6 year old nextgens that are slowly 1 by 1 crapping out every time we lose power but they are old imo. Other than that i have had two phantom digi ballast go down and the site i linked sent me new nanolux as a replacement, which i love.i have a bunch of lumitecs and those are all good.love the nanos because they all have a time delay and fire up at random so it helps with power draw at startup
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I had bad luck with Galaxy Grow Amp - power surge = BANG!

What do you think of Nanolux lamps?
 
VTMi'kmaq

VTMi'kmaq

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Pat666 said:
What did you pay for each? Found eye Hort. For like $70 on Amazon still looking for the Phillips. Are all metal halides ceramic? Or does that make it better in some way? I usually start veg with my 4ft T5 then switch to MH later on to save some electricity so I may be able to use it for 1 more grow. Didn't realize bulbs were gonna be so expensive
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Do you care what spectrum your mh is in? 5000k or 7000k? I prefer a 5500 k mh bulb. But a 7200 k 400 plantmaxx bulb is decent for the price
 
OneHitDone

OneHitDone

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VTMi'kmaq said:
Do you care what spectrum your mh is in? 5000k or 7000k? I prefer a 5500 k mh bulb. But a 7200 k 400 plantmaxx bulb is decent for the price
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For a MH lamp you want the fullest spectrum possible.
Like the Hortilux Blue


Here is Hortilux Blue Metal Halide Left - Hortilux Super HPS Right
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