Well Al B Fuct, its 2400w in budbox's 2 week harvest......

awesome start, deff will follow - I only know soil.. so i enjoy seeing how this works! props man and good luck!

Revolution101 said:

I used a cloner that was similar to yours, I actually also think it was aero, but I left it on always and my water was mixed with b'cuzz root stimulator. Although this was fairly slow in my opinion so maybe the time off would help them. Also idk if yours has a humidity dome and idk that you need one with aero cloning. I know i use it with the plugs and like the results I was thinking maybe i could rig one up for my clone machine.

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Hi, if you look in the pics on the 1st page of this journal you can see its got a humidity dome with vents i leave open, its the x-stream 36 site aeroponic propagator probably on sale everywhere......how long did yours take to root??

bossman88188 said:

nice looking grow. how did you get your panda paper so perfect how did you attach it

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Hey Bossman thanks for stopping by......but i dont ue any panda paper, everything is in budbox's the only light curtain i use is actually 1 of the groundsheets from my titan budbox, so it has velcro on the corners which i attched to the poles of my xxl budbox basically halvin it. It is not 100% effective but it means my 600w MH doesnt directly hit the clones......

Revolution101 said:

Looks like one of the growtents in a box deals. Looks like pre cut vents and everything. I love those grow tents. *Drools*

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Yeah i have a XXL Budbox which is 2m (L) x 1m (W) x 2m (H)........it has 2 pre cut vents for intake/extraction and some other mall holes for passing wires out/in.......and i also have a 'Titan' Budbox which is 2m x 2m x 2m.......it has 6 pre-cut holes for intake/extraction which is perfect......pretty expensive but not when you think they could last forever if looked after......

bluecheesegrowinass420 said:

i wanna do this too but how much is the elecrical bill can i get away with this in a suburban house

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Hi BlueCheese thanks for stopping by, basically im not worried about the electric bill, whenever the bill comes i pay in full on time and to the electricity company im just a good customer, plus im a firm believer that the only way you get caught is by 'snitches' who then give police a reason to look into ur affairs, so if you keep everything on the quiet u should be fine, and about how much it costs, well when my flowering room i fully up and running ill be drawing 3000 watts, or 3kw, so look at how much your electric company charges ie 0.50 per kilowatt per hour, so 3 x 0.50 x 12 hours = 13.50/day roughly.......u understand....???

LoudBlunts said:

i wrote a little something on my diy aero cloner i built. i get roots in 3-5 days

if you think it'll help

https://www.rollitup.org/2278381-post40.html

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Hey Loudblunts ive read some of your posts/threads before i recognise the quote in your sig....still makes me giggle everytime i see it....i read your post about the aerocloner......is it really worth buying the 1 min on 4 min off timer do you think it helps a lot....what do you think of my 15min on and 30min off regime at the mo? My plants look healthy jus no roots yet, although they look like they wanna shoot out....and about the rhizotonic..i was gonna use this but i read that until they show at least some signs of roots the nutes actually slow them down...would u disagree with this?? Im gonna try it on my next lot of clones see how things go...but do you think mine look healthy or like they are gonna root?? Also 1 last thing is when i took the clones i made a slit up the stem...does this help or do you do it? Let me know bro....

Thanks for the help everyone i could do with some more lol anyways keep posted i might post some closeup pics of my roots in a bit if i can work out how to do it on my camera.........

Ok Hi all, quick update, ive just checked the clones the lights are going out in 45 mins.......50% of the 15 lemon clones have started to show little roots, the other lemon skunks have just got little white bumps like they are gonna root soon, however the great white sharks are not showing any signs of rooting yet........i am gonna post some pics when i wake up tomorrow but for now its bed......im so ill.......manflu lol..........

i would never buy a preset cycle timer.

i run 20 - 30 secs pump on and 3-4 minutes pump off

i have a friend that runs aero 15 pump on 45 pump off or some shit and they are okay with it. they dont have enough money to buy a cycle timer.

you could also 'hydro' clone as opposed to 'aero' cloning....

hydro cloning would have the pump running 24/7

far as rhizotonic...man iono...as im still experiment and testing with it.

when im not aero cloning and using just rapidrooters...i soak my plugs in a light nute mix of rhizotonic, calmag, cannazym and something else and i get roots in 5-7 days

but as for aero....not sure just testing out to see if its coincidence or it really working.

i do know if its working that clonex cloning solution may work a TAD bit faster than rhizotonic...but im still testing

for slit all that shit...no i dont do all that extra crap, i just cut the clone at an angle and if i do anything else...its maybe a scrap/scar here or there on the stem

LoudBlunts said:

i would never buy a preset cycle timer.

i run 20 - 30 secs pump on and 3-4 minutes pump off

i have a friend that runs aero 15 pump on 45 pump off or some shit and they are okay with it. they dont have enough money to buy a cycle timer.

you could also 'hydro' clone as opposed to 'aero' cloning....

hydro cloning would have the pump running 24/7

far as rhizotonic...man iono...as im still experiment and testing with it.

when im not aero cloning and using just rapidrooters...i soak my plugs in a light nute mix of rhizotonic, calmag, cannazym and something else and i get roots in 5-7 days

but as for aero....not sure just testing out to see if its coincidence or it really working.

i do know if its working that clonex cloning solution may work a TAD bit faster than rhizotonic...but im still testing

for slit all that shit...no i dont do all that extra crap, i just cut the clone at an angle and if i do anything else...its maybe a scrap/scar here or there on the stem

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Hi Bro, i changed my cycle to 15 min on and 30 mins off about 2 days ago and im starting to see some results.....i dunno if this change actually helped but its working so im gonna keep it going like that for the moment......ive added some pics below that show some root growth, this is on all my lemon skunk clones but my great white shark clones arent howing yet, although i expect them to soon enough..

The pics are a bit blurry i aint got the hang of taking closeup pics with my camera yet, but you can clearly see some root growth......

I thought the Rhizotonic was only supposed to be used once there are some rootrs showing, and then it helps make a lot more roots a lot quicker, i havent got any rhizotonic yet its getting delivered tomorro but when it does im gonna change the res and add some......anyways heres the pics...









All in all things are going very good....i think the aerocloner was the best investment ive made so far...i was planning on cloning with rockwool and a heat mat before i read about aerocloning, and given that im on a 2 week perpetual harvest that allows me 14 days rooting time between batches.......it is now only day 6 and ive got roots already.....by day 14 i should have a healthy root mass ready to transplant to clay pellets and the hopefully these will be 1 oz 'lollipops' which should give me 24oz every 2 weeks.......im not guaranteeing 1oz per plant as these clones were quite small, but as my next lot of clones will be bigger hopefully we can get somewhere near 1oz/plant.........anyways guys ive got a big smile on my face cloning is the only thing ive never tried and ive been reading about it for the past month, and all ive seen is people having trouble with cloning, so to get roots showing in 6 days im over the moon.........

Anyways guys lemme know what you think.....all advice is welcome and can only help.....happy growing all

the clones seem to be taking off well
iv never really liked the idea of airoponics but i havent seen the whole prosses or results so ill hang around to see what hapens, good luck

ganjaboii024 said:

the clones seem to be taking off well
iv never really liked the idea of airoponics but i havent seen the whole prosses or results so ill hang around to see what hapens, good luck

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Hi Ganja thanks for stopping by, this i the first time ive ever tried cloning, let alone aeroponic cloning, but i can defiantely say its the best thing since sliced bread, literally cut the clones, bit of cloning gel, into the aerocloner, 6 days wait and u get some roots, now if that isnt magic i dunno what is, ive looked at cloning in rockwool the way Al. B Fuct does it but he has to tend to them 2 times a day to water, and he has to be careful not to over/under water.......all of this seems like a long process.....and i quote him by saying....im a stoned slacker.....so aeroponic cloning is for me....nice and easy......thanks for the comments bro....

ldnsharkkid said:

Hi Ganja thanks for stopping by, this i the first time ive ever tried cloning, let alone aeroponic cloning, but i can defiantely say its the best thing since sliced bread, literally cut the clones, bit of cloning gel, into the aerocloner, 6 days wait and u get some roots, now if that isnt magic i dunno what is, ive looked at cloning in rockwool the way Al. B Fuct does it but he has to tend to them 2 times a day to water, and he has to be careful not to over/under water.......all of this seems like a long process.....and i quote him by saying....im a stoned slacker.....so aeroponic cloning is for me....nice and easy......thanks for the comments bro....

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maybe next time around when i take some cutting ill try and do airo-clonin and transplant those to DWC buckets cuz the buckets are working great for me. i tried cloning in RW cubes but it didnt work, my root temps where to cold, temp under the dome was way 2 hot and humidity was way to low...
also wated to ask, whats the point in putting rooting solution onto the cutting for airo?? doesnt it just wash off in a few mins??

ganjaboii024 said:

maybe next time around when i take some cutting ill try and do airo-clonin and transplant those to DWC buckets cuz the buckets are working great for me. i tried cloning in RW cubes but it didnt work, my root temps where to cold, temp under the dome was way 2 hot and humidity was way to low...
also wated to ask, whats the point in putting rooting solution onto the cutting for airo?? doesnt it just wash off in a few mins??

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Hi Ganja.......so you been rooting in rockwool? Do you have a heat mat?? Ive heard this is very important for rooting in rockwool....even more important than the humidity dome....have u read Al.B Fucts 'a batch of clones in rockwool' thread?? If not then read it he has the process perfected, and it works for him very well, also he uses no humidity dome......and as for the gel washing off, it does but it also helps a bit just when youve cut the clone as it helps the broken cells.....but im no expert. I used it anyways and my clones are doig good so ill continue to use it even if it washes off lol.......anyways keep posted and ill help ya where i can, but im still learning a lot.........

ldnsharkkid said:

Hi Ganja.......so you been rooting in rockwool? Do you have a heat mat?? Ive heard this is very important for rooting in rockwool....even more important than the humidity dome....have u read Al.B Fucts 'a batch of clones in rockwool' thread?? If not then read it he has the process perfected, and it works for him very well, also he uses no humidity dome......and as for the gel washing off, it does but it also helps a bit just when youve cut the clone as it helps the broken cells.....but im no expert. I used it anyways and my clones are doig good so ill continue to use it even if it washes off lol.......anyways keep posted and ill help ya where i can, but im still learning a lot.........

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my first cloning atempt was a half assed try just before i started flowering my current babies. i didnt spray my mother down with water for a week or 2 before i took cuttings, i didnt sterilize everything properly, didnt presoak the RW, no heat mat, you name it...i didnt do it, lol ( 0% succes )

ill take a look around for Al.B Fucts cloning thread and check it out, thanks

ganjaboii024 said:

my first cloning atempt was a half assed try just before i started flowering my current babies. i didnt spray my mother down with water for a week or 2 before i took cuttings, i didnt sterilize everything properly, didnt presoak the RW, no heat mat, you name it...i didnt do it, lol ( 0% succes )

ill take a look around for Al.B Fucts cloning thread and check it out, thanks

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Oh ok now i see why you had no success.....here is the link for the Al. B Fuct's clone thread, it is very useful....

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/15030-batch-clones-rockwool.html

Have a look and see what you can improve on......

ldnsharkkid said:

Oh ok now i see why you had no success.....here is the link for the Al. B Fuct's clone thread, it is very useful....

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/15030-batch-clones-rockwool.html

Have a look and see what you can improve on......

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thanks for the link, lots of goods points on there

OK ANOTHER QUICK UPDATE ALL......

ITS A WEEK EXACTLY SINCE I TOOK MY CLONES 27 OF THEM EXACTLY...

12 GREAT WHITE SHARK CLONES

15 LEMON SKUNK CLONES

ALL OF THE LEMON SKUNK CLONES HAVE ROOTS POPPED AND GROWING FAST....100%

5/12 GWS CLONES HAVE VERY SMALL ROOTS....THE REST STILL TO POP BUT THEY LOOK LIKETHEY ARE GONNA.....

IVE ADDED A FEW PICS, HERE THEY ARE.....

PIC 1 - LEMON SKUNK CLONE



PIC 2 - LEMON SKUNK CLONE



PIC 3 - GWS CLONE



SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE GWS CLONES ARE NOT TOO FAR BEHIND BUT STILL TOOK A BIT LONGER...AND THE ROOTS SEEM A LOT SMALLER....

IVE BEEN THINKING QUITE A FEW NEW THINGS....I THINK IM GONNA GET RID OF ALL BUT 1 OF THE GWS MOTHERS AND A COUPLE OF LEMON SKUNK MOTHERS.....

MY MOTHER FLOOD TRAY IS CROWDED MY SUPER LEMON HAZE PLANTS ARENT GETTING ENOUGH LIGHT I HAVENT PRUNED THE MOTHERS AT ALL COULD ANYONE HELP AND GIVE ME SOME ADVICE ABOUT PRUNING.......

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK GUYS

First advice about pruning. Don't be afraid to cut some shit off. Really, don't go light on the pruning to try not to stun it or something, most plants can take A LOT of pruning and not be stunned at all. Also congratulations on the clones, I knew they would root real quick. They all look about perfect!

Revolution101 said:

First advice about pruning. Don't be afraid to cut some shit off. Really, don't go light on the pruning to try not to stun it or something, most plants can take A LOT of pruning and not be stunned at all. Also congratulations on the clones, I knew they would root real quick. They all look about perfect!

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Hey Revolution.......basically i didnt prune i chopped down 4 mother plants they were slow growers and didnt have the genetics i wanted in a plant...ie fast root growth, fast general growth etc.....so i made space for my lemon haze mothers, which have stretched and i need to get them up to speed as this is the main starin i want to grow.......as for the clones they are all rooted except 1 which died so i have 26/27 which is not bad for a first time cloning......

Anyways all the clones are being moved to the flood table in the flowering room on monday when it arrives, so hopefully all will go well.......and when they are moved i am going to be taking my 2nd lot of clones.......i was also thinking im gonna make a thread with pics for aerocloning because i see loads of people having trouble with it, whereas im havin great succes with it.....anyways keep posted everyone, only 8 weeks left and ill be harvesting 24 clones every 2 weeks, so its all looking good.....

As always ur comments are welcome,in fact im asking for comments soi know what ppl think......lemme know guys.....

Ok hi all again a quick update with some pics.....

Today i done my weekly res change and i upped the nutes a little bit.....i put 200ml EACH of Canna Aqua A + B so 400ml in total, and this brought my ppm up to 1400ppm, or 2.0ec........

As i said the other day i chopped 4 of my mothers down, this was because my super lemon haze plants which were about 3 weeks behind stretched as they werent gettin enough light, ive added a pic of 1 of them, as you can see there are no clone branches and they are very stretched, i think im gonna top 1 or 2 of them and clone the top, and then hopefully ill have some nice bushy plants.....but for now ill let them grow a bit as they have more space an light....

As for the clones as you can see from 1 of the pics they are rooted nicely, and they are bein transferred as soon as my 1st flood table arrives tomorrow, they will be going straight to 12/12 with a strong dose of Canna Flores and also a bit of Rhizotonic to help with the transpant stress......

Anyways enjoy my journal all once ive got it up and running and harvesting every 2 weeks i doubt ill be continuing the jounal as ill just be repeating everything ive done already, but until then i will keep everyone updated about what i do or change or try out etc........

Pic 1 - An under-developed lemon haze....the new space and light should sort these out in the next 2 weeks



Pic 2 - A group pic of some mothers and the lemon haze down on the left



Pic 3 - The lemon haze's compared with the 'mature' mothers



Pic 4 - Well rooted clone, not bad for Day 9




Anyways all if you have any question about my setup or any advice or help or anything, then post a comment.......

Ok so i recieved my 1st flood table today and im going to set it up tomorrow, ive added a couple of pics just to show you, and also i got a 1 Litre bottle of Rhizotonic which was very exoensive but nevermind.......anyways heres the pics im off to bed.....

ha @ 1L

try buying the 5L, then you can talk expensive

LoudBlunts said:

ha @ 1L

try buying the 5L, then you can talk expensive

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Hey Loudblunts.........when this is up and running nothing will be expensive muahahahahahahahah

ldnsharkkid said:

Hey Loudblunts.........when this is up and running nothing will be expensive muahahahahahahahah

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i totally agree

im at the point where im tryna figure out my efficiency of the grow

and how much its costing me to make an oz


and plus i HATE HATE HATE ordering nutes online and getting them delievered, thas why i try to order big and only at certain periods of the year