Warning: carcinogens found in Humboldt county's own products

ya i did flame up.... but it seems as if one grower does it better an tells you that your ignorant for doing a sertain thing so i flared up but to tell you the truth im not even shure and im honest about that but i will put the martian to the test this week and ill post the results of carcinagens how that??? and in no way am i lashing out im calm as i right this i too am curious to see if the flush does anything and it might change my mind about useing these products i already get a good enough yeild with out it.. and it rocks up without it to so lets see what the results are..

mastiffkush said:

Look at it like the pesticides that they use in tobacco..if tobacco were natural it would not be as bad for you. The whole thing is that they are knowingly using carcinogenic toxic chemicals in a product that is being used for a product that is going to be consumed. Either way you look at it, its not good!

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Is it just me or is this fucking stupid? Nicotine is a pesticide that the plant creates its self to protect its self from bugs.
You can grow tobacco in your backyard and it will still be fucking toxic. Tobacco is good for nothing but killing shit

Sorry to resurrect, but in my experience it is the products that get discontinued that work the best; also the products that cause cancer are usually superior to the ones that don't. I think that's just how things go...

NietzscheKeen said:

Sorry to resurrect, but in my experience it is the products that get discontinued that work the best; also the products that cause cancer are usually superior to the ones that don't. I think that's just how things go...

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This is indeed typically the case. Also there is not a single case linking Paclobutrazol to cancer when the plant it was used in was smoked.

has neone ever ran bm all the way through flower.

I did one cycle due to was running out of height . I believe if you follow directions it's only used for a couple weeks and also only left in the res for a short period of time.I've read they use this stuff on mangos .
All I know is it def did what I wanted it to and cut stretch.

I use as direscted normally but I left it in this time 1ml a gallon and its working even better

I'd heard they no longer use paclobutrazol but dunno. just got into trouble that one time and used it like I said.
I've still gotten into trouble the past 2 cycles after that but didn't use the bushmaster and ended up in the lights.
Had a friend from here tell me he used too much (thought he mentioned 1ml per gallon) and he got a burn or something.

I might use a lil less next time. this is my 4th round.
I got burn and ram horns pretty good the 2 nd rnd but, I think it was due to the fact that I overwatered and my temps were too high for a week. when I keep everything in check it works great

even though there is no evidence to prove otherwise either way, I stay away from it. kept me out of the lights is what I liked about it.

haha such slander like this is ignorant...Emerald triangle aka Humboldts countys own. has been around longer that Humboldt nutrients!

smoke in you lungs is a carcinogen...
if you smoke cicargettes...blunts or use tobacco products in general you really should not be concerned with with this causing cancer...

SNOW STORM and PURPLE MAX ARE NOT PGRs

These products work

http://www.mass.gov/eea/docs/agr/pesticides/rightofway/docs/paclobutrazol-review-jan-2012.pdf

http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/registration_review/paclobutrazol/paclobutrazol_summary.pdf

I'm confused, you say they are not PGRs (Plant Growth Regulators), yet the first link you posted is talking about Tree Growth Regulator - Paclobutrazol. What are you trying to say?

I dunno wtf the fat bearded guy is trying to say either.
But they've removed the pgr PBZ from gravity and bushmaster so......

I used both bushmaster and gravity.

The thing is, bushmaster only requres it to be applied 2-4 times MAX during the entire grow stage at the beginning of flowers.

I have been told that plants don't store nutrients, they only use what they need to flurish.

I am a big fan of these products, and thanks to the email on page 3, i have no doubts about being poisoned from it.

I have smoked some of the best herb in my life that has used gravity and bushmaster.

If you are the paranoid type, then don't use it.

It's that simple. I for one, like how the HCO products work on my plants.

I used gravity 3-4 times on one plant, and now the buds are rock solid. Hands down, gravity rules.



NOTE: Ebay gravity and be shocked to see how much its selling for. For everyone who said they could have gotten off 50% shelf prices, i would be pretty sad knowing i could have made a decent amount of money.

I agree.
People get all paranoid about getting cancer, and then they light up a joint..... Ironic.

Lucius Vorenus said:

This is indeed typically the case. Also there is not a single case linking Paclobutrazol to cancer when the plant it was used in was smoked.

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no but there a are studies on the inhalation of PBZ and toxicity and and it nots good...

Damn thank you so much for the thread and the knowledge I'll keep my ears out and pass the good word

topfuel29 said:

I agree.
People get all paranoid about getting cancer, and then they light up a joint..... Ironic.

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So, if someone lights up a joint, they are no longer allowed to care about their health in any other way....that makes sense.



"People get all paranoid about putting a loaded gun to their head and pulling the trigger, and then they light up a joint.....herp derp."

Fuck snake oils...

blacksun said:

So, if someone lights up a joint, they are no longer allowed to care about their health in any other way....that makes sense.



"People get all paranoid about putting a loaded gun to their head and pulling the trigger, and then they light up a joint.....herp derp."

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It means people are hypocrites.
When your times up, It's up.
If your family tree has a lot of cancer in it, I'd watch what I was doing.
People need to take responsibility for what there doing -IMO Know the Dangers.