War

hanimmal

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Remember that oil prices have been low for years and russias main source of money is oil and gas.
Just heard last night too that (surprise surprise) the Saudi's are not going to do anything to offset any shit Russia pulls.

It is almost like their 'gas war' during the last year of their puppet's term was all for show/Trump's reelection chances.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Here are some Russian FANTASY weapon systems, if you take a close look at them there are technical difficulties in realizing the fantasy. These things would be easily detectable remotely anyway. For instance, how would they deal with the advanced infantry units accompanying the armor? I think they put these videos out to try and impress the west, but this shit mass produced is more than a country with Russia's economy can do, provided they can even produce them to begin with.

 

HGCC

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Who is that guy,Americans don't love war, yeah we are a country w/too many guns and problems,but our warts are there for everyone to see, and we never conquered territory in wars,look at our relationship w/Japan all that nasty island fighting now a close ally.
I do think we set the stage and have policies to allow our business interests to conquer territory. Wars of dollars and culture.
 

injinji

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. . . . . . . . and we never conquered territory in wars. . . . . . . . .
American history can be a good read. You might want to read the chapter on the Spanish American war, where we got Cuba, Puerto Rico, and as long as we could hold them, the Philippines and other Asian colonies. We did give Cuba most of their country back. We only kept Gitmo.

Then check out the Mexican American War, where after taking Texas, we needed more, so we invaded Mexico City and stayed there until Mexico "sold" us most of the south west real cheap.

From wiki wiki:

Before the secession of Texas, Mexico comprised almost 1,700,000 sq mi (4,400,000 km2), but by 1849 it was just under 800,000 square miles (2,100,000 km2). Another 30,000 square miles (78,000 km2) were sold to the U.S. in the Gadsden Purchase of 1853, so the total reduction of Mexican territory was more than 55%, or 900,000 square miles (2,300,000 km2).[209] Although the annexed territory was about the size of Western Europe, it was sparsely populated. The land contained about 14,000 non-indigenous people in Alta California[210] and about 60,000 in Nuevo México,[211] as well as large Indian nations, such as the Papago, Pima, Puebloan, Navajo, Apache and many others. Although some native people relocated farther south in Mexico, the great majority remained in the U.S. territory.

We would have taken more, but you know, there was too much pigmentation that would have come with the land.

More from wiki wiki:

Having won a decisive victory, the U.S. was divided on what the peace should entail. Now that the U.S. had gone far beyond the territorial gains it initially envisioned by invading central Mexico with its dense population, the question was raised whether to annex the entirety of Mexico. After the Wilmot Proviso, there was a lessening of fervor for the idea, but the taking of Mexico City had revived enthusiasm.[195] There were fierce objections in Congress to that on racial grounds. South Carolina Senator John C. Calhoun argued that absorbing Mexico would threaten U.S. institutions and the character of the country. "We have never dreamt of incorporating into our Union any but the Caucasian race—the free white race. To incorporate Mexico, would be the first instance of the kind, of incorporating an Indian race; for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians, and the other is composed chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that! Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race.... We are anxious to force free government on all; and I see that it has been urged ... that it is the mission of this country to spread civil and religious liberty over all the world, and especially over this continent. It is a great mistake."

 

smokinrav

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I really respect the A10 Warthog, it's built so well that our gov. and military can't get rid of it(they've tried). In order to use them against a capable adversary there would have to be a concentrated effort to take out air defenses and be escorted by fighters,if you just sent A10's in without attrition of air defenses,A LOT of A10's would be lost,the Russian's have a savage multi-layered air defense system accompanying there armor.
We have a lot of drones and anti radiation missiles (ARM). Send a few squads of drones in followed by F-22s with ARMs about 20 or 30 miles behind. Bye Bye radar, meet the A-10 once again for the first time
 

PJ Diaz

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I remember back in the good old days when liberals were anti-war and conservatives were the war mongers. Sure is a topsy-turvey world we live in these days.

 

captainmorgan

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I guess the mental case has forgotten all those high ranking GOP trump supporting traitors spending the Fourth of July in Moscow like they were on a family vacation.
 

Lucky Luke

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Nobody's perfect.

The US is the most powerful which isn't a bad thing & has chosen the role of the world's policeman, which has been a very good thing in the past. The Serbian Muslims can attest to that. That predisposes a country to be war like. But we're certainly not the most corrupt although it is getting much worse over the last few years. Legislators are addressing the corruption issue, at least one party is anyway. The most lying? No, absolutely not. Seriously how can you put the US behind countries with dictators or other democratic countries like Israel, Hungary, India, etc. Arrogant, absolutely. The role of guiding light is getting much more difficult because of the effectiveness of propaganda through social media. Let's hope it can return to that.
Point taken. But the Christian Serbs would disagree with you
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Just a thought I had (after hearing it on NPR). Putin might be trying to out some of our spies. The way it could work is to tell one person a certain set of number or dates or what ever. Then you wait and see if those are publicly released. President Joe Rob needs to tread carefully. Well placed spies are hard to come by.
Tom Clancy has described this tactic under the heading Canary Trap. Salt your bait with weird words, then wait to see if they are propagated.
 

Lucky Luke

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I love this. It's like saying you can try to piss me off, but I refuse to become angry. I know, just the most common spelling error and not what you meant but great t-shirt nonetheless.
No just a common spelling error. I make heaps of them as everybody on here knows. Spelling and math i struggle with. Thank God for spell check and calculators.
 
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