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'Inclined Toward Treason': More And More Russian Soldiers Reportedly Refusing To Fight In Ukraine
“They called me one morning from the office of the division commander in Amur Oblast, where Pavlik served,” said a woman from Russia’s Tambov region who asked to be identified only by her first name, Yelena. “The man said: ‘Do you know that they are searching for your son, that he is AWOL?’ Pavlik was supposed to board a troop train, but he didn’t. And five other soldiers were with him.”
Yelena’s son, Pavel, was serving in the Far Eastern Amur region when Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24. Almost immediately, his unit was sent to the front, and he served almost 40 days in combat. Then his unit was sent back to Russia to regroup, Yelena told RFE/RL’s North.Realities. When his unit was preparing to return to Ukraine, Pavel refused.
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“They called me one morning from the office of the division commander in Amur Oblast, where Pavlik served,” said a woman from Russia’s Tambov region who asked to be identified only by her first name, Yelena. “The man said: ‘Do you know that they are searching for your son, that he is AWOL?’ Pavlik was supposed to board a troop train, but he didn’t. And five other soldiers were with him.”
Yelena’s son, Pavel, was serving in the Far Eastern Amur region when Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24. Almost immediately, his unit was sent to the front, and he served almost 40 days in combat. Then his unit was sent back to Russia to regroup, Yelena told RFE/RL’s North.Realities. When his unit was preparing to return to Ukraine, Pavel refused.
'Inclined Toward Treason': More And More Russian Soldiers Reportedly Refusing To Fight In Ukraine
Among the many problems Russia has run into since it invaded Ukraine in February is a growing number of servicemen refusing to participate in what Moscow calls its “special military operation.” By one estimate, up to 40 percent of troops recently withdrawn from Ukraine are refusing to go back.
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Looks like the body count of Russian generals is up to 8 now and many times more colonels. At least those guilty of war crimes are getting the death penalty on the battlefield and it's a two for one, with a justice bonus included. Nobody in Ukraine will lose any sleep over their passing, this war is hard on Russian officers, but they order the atrocities and are responsible for the behavior of their men, including when they act like animals. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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Another Russian General Has Been Killed In Ukraine
Major General Vladimir Frolov, deputy commander of the 8th Army, may be the eighth Russian general to have been killed since Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine.
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Czech Republic dismisses Russian warning over providing Soviet-era weapons to Ukraine
The Czech Foreign Ministry has dismissed a warning from Russia that the Czech Republic has no right to provide weapons of Soviet provenance to third countries without its consent. Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavský said this argument was nonsensical, since there was no clause in the old purchasing contracts prohibiting the re-export of military equipment. He said the Czech Republic would not respond to the diplomatic note.
Russia has been trying to stop military support to Ukraine, warning the US and other Western states that their arms supplies to Ukraine were fueling the conflict and could result in "unpredictable consequences".
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The Czech Foreign Ministry has dismissed a warning from Russia that the Czech Republic has no right to provide weapons of Soviet provenance to third countries without its consent. Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavský said this argument was nonsensical, since there was no clause in the old purchasing contracts prohibiting the re-export of military equipment. He said the Czech Republic would not respond to the diplomatic note.
Russia has been trying to stop military support to Ukraine, warning the US and other Western states that their arms supplies to Ukraine were fueling the conflict and could result in "unpredictable consequences".
Czech Republic dismisses Russian warning over providing Soviet-era weapons to Ukraine
Czech Republic dismisses Russian warning over providing Soviet-era weapons to Ukraine
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Word of their rights will quickly spread among conscripts and others, it's less than a page of text information about the law. Vlad will need to declare war or marshal law to get anything done, sure they can change the law, but there are a lot of other things to consider when doing it. So it is illegal for officers to shoot soldiers too, there is no war on after all, legally speaking. They can shoot their officers if they see them doing that shit and surrender to the Ukrainians.'Inclined Toward Treason': More And More Russian Soldiers Reportedly Refusing To Fight In Ukraine
“They called me one morning from the office of the division commander in Amur Oblast, where Pavlik served,” said a woman from Russia’s Tambov region who asked to be identified only by her first name, Yelena. “The man said: ‘Do you know that they are searching for your son, that he is AWOL?’ Pavlik was supposed to board a troop train, but he didn’t. And five other soldiers were with him.”
Yelena’s son, Pavel, was serving in the Far Eastern Amur region when Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24. Almost immediately, his unit was sent to the front, and he served almost 40 days in combat. Then his unit was sent back to Russia to regroup, Yelena told RFE/RL’s North.Realities. When his unit was preparing to return to Ukraine, Pavel refused.
“If he doesn’t want to go back, am I supposed to push him, to tell him, ‘Grab your weapon and go,’” Yelena said. “Those who haven’t been there have no right judge those who have.”
Yelena’s son is one of a significant but unknown number of Russian contract soldiers who have refused to either fight in Ukraine in the first place or who have fought and do not want to return.
Lawyer Pavel Chikov, founder of the Agora legal-aid NGO, has written on Telegram that more than 1,000 military personnel and National Guard troops from at least seven regions have refused to go to Ukraine.
Ruslan Leviyev, the founder of the Conflict Intelligence Team, a Russian NGO that monitors open-source information about the Russian military, told Current Time that the actual number of these cases might be considerably larger and that the refusals could be severely hampering Russia’s efforts to regroup and renew its military operations in eastern Ukraine.
“The phenomenon of refusal is becoming systemic,” Leviyev said. “Such soldiers are found in practically every unit that has returned from Ukraine. According to our estimates, from 20 to 40 percent of the contract servicemen that returned from Ukraine and that are being readied to be sent back are refusing to return to combat.”
Leviyev said most of these soldiers are not deserters but could face legal ramifications for refusing to obey orders. To convict, however, prosecutors must demonstrate that the order was lawful and that the refusal to obey caused “substantial harm” to the military
“From the cases we have seen, they are being intimidated with threats of prosecution and being worked over by military prosecutors,” he said. “But so far no one has been prosecuted, according to what we have seen.”
Rights lawyers say the government’s unwillingness to call the invasion of Ukraine a “war” or to declare war or martial law could give dissenting servicemen some protection from the worst consequences of refusing to fight.
“Citizens have the right to refuse to go to a foreign war and kill people,” said Agora lawyer Mikhail Benyash, who is providing legal services to some soldiers who have refused. “And they also have the right not to participate in a ‘special military operation.’ By definition, only special forces troops with training for such operations are sent [on ‘special military operations’]….”
An unknown number of soldiers, however, have been discharged from military service for refusing to fight in Ukraine, wrote rights lawyer Maksim Grebenyuk on Telegram. He said the question of “what are the consequences of refusing to serve in the ‘special military operation,’” as Moscow insists that its unprovoked invasion of Ukraine be euphemistically called, has become “the most frequent query” he has received in the last few weeks.
Grebenyuk also posted a photograph of a stamp that was purportedly placed in the military-service booklet of one soldier who refused to serve in Ukraine, whose name Grebenyuk withheld, but who reportedly served in the 136th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade.
“Inclined toward treason, lies, and deception,” the official-looking stamp reads.
“Refused to participate in the special military operation on the territory of the LNR, DNR, and Ukraine,” it continued, using the abbreviations adopted by the Moscow-backed separatists in parts of eastern Ukraine to designate the territory they claim and which Moscow has recognized as sovereign countries.
Grebenyuk said the soldier told him he had served seven months in Syria and had been granted “rest and rehabilitation leave,” which was rescinded when he was ordered to go to Ukraine.
In a post on Twitter, Leonid Volkov, a top aide to imprisoned opposition politician Aleksei Navalny, wrote: “They had a stamp made? That means it is a mass phenomenon. Good.”
Such a stamp in one’s military-service booklet could make it difficult for a serviceman to find a job or enroll in higher education.
The Russian military insists its war in Ukraine is largely proceeding according to plan, but Western intelligence analysts have documented significant lapses in supply, communications, preparation, and other areas that have hampered its operations. Moscow has said 1,351 servicemen have been killed since the war was launched on February 24, but other sources say the real figure is much higher. The Ukrainian military estimates that more than 18,000 Russian troops have been killed.
Agora lawyer Benyash said he believes the number of such refusals to fight will increase as the human costs of the war become clearer in Russia.
“I think that as more zinc coffins come back from Ukraine, the more people there will be in Russia who have no desire to be next,” he said.
“Such a position will become socially acceptable, understood, and accepted,” he added. “The mood in society is changing. Earlier, a soldier had to make such a decision alone, at their own risk. But now there are already examples and people can see the consequences. They aren’t being shot; they don’t face tribunals; they aren’t being sent to prison.”
'Inclined Toward Treason': More And More Russian Soldiers Reportedly Refusing To Fight In Ukraine
Among the many problems Russia has run into since it invaded Ukraine in February is a growing number of servicemen refusing to participate in what Moscow calls its “special military operation.” By one estimate, up to 40 percent of troops recently withdrawn from Ukraine are refusing to go back.
Vlad might use the sinking of the Moscow as an excuse to formally go to war with Ukraine, this will allow him to call up the reserves and take other discipline measures with soldiers.
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Russian generals and admirals are becoming casualties, both from Ukrainian actions and Putin's too, they are getting hammered from top and bottom and from both ends at once!
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Russian Covert Operations Exposed in Ukraine
Just talking about the ship and a little history,I'm W/Ukraine 100%,and said implicitly that I'm shocked at their criminal brutal acts on Ukraine citizen's and their blunt version of warfare just pointing artillery in random directions firing on cities is disgusting.
I've seen a few simulations that speculate on what went down,one involved flooding the zone w/drones making her deplete her best air to air missiles then leaving her only w/the Russian CWIS equivalent to defend,the other scenario speculates that her systems failed in inclement weather
I was under the impression that Medvedev was more moderate than Putin and if he played his cards right he would have been a improvement if he replaced Putin,but he seems to have hardened and is down w/this special operation which surprises me as I'd expect him to be angling for the job,During his term as president he didn't seem as anti-west or seething w/resentment as is Putin,guess he's afraid of Vlad.
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He was Putin's puppet, even as president, loyalty is to the person, not the party, like with Stalin, the government is a complete sham. It's 10 times worse than if Trump was POTUS and the house and senate were republican, there are no real independent institutions like the courts or press and Foxnews was the only news.
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What you said explocitly was “the savage brutality of Ukrainian citizens” without comment on Rissian britality.
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These guys won't be happy with Vlad, but most of them were on board anyway, Vlad did blunder, humiliate Russia and they lost their fortunes abroad! Some might not accept personal responsibility, but will blame Vlad for the failure, like he is blaming others. It's how such people operate, Vlad is vulnerable and the more he is defeated on the battlefield, the more vulnerable he becomes. However doing Vlad will also do away with the façade of legality and legitimacy, then there are Vlad's millions of fans to think about, the base of the party. What would happen to the republicans, if Trump got shot and it was believed Moscow Mitch was behind it! The base would go nuts!
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I meant the brutalization on the Ukranian's not their actions,damn,my bad writing,these people are victims,in no way am I against anything these poor people do,and I admire these old senior Ukranian's guile,especially the old lady passing out the sunflower seeds,please allow my grammatical error
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i got what he meant. he just phrased it oddly
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without their consent?...FUCK RUSSIA...no one needs their consent to do anything. that is an attitude they need to get the fuck over.Czech Republic dismisses Russian warning over providing Soviet-era weapons to Ukraine
The Czech Foreign Ministry has dismissed a warning from Russia that the Czech Republic has no right to provide weapons of Soviet provenance to third countries without its consent. Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavský said this argument was nonsensical, since there was no clause in the old purchasing contracts prohibiting the re-export of military equipment. He said the Czech Republic would not respond to the diplomatic note.
Russia has been trying to stop military support to Ukraine, warning the US and other Western states that their arms supplies to Ukraine were fueling the conflict and could result in "unpredictable consequences".
Czech Republic dismisses Russian warning over providing Soviet-era weapons to Ukraine
Czech Republic dismisses Russian warning over providing Soviet-era weapons to Ukraine
it has become apparent that the great russian empire is a fucking joke who couldn't take over a goat farm if it didn't have nuclear weapons to threaten the world with. i think it's time to move a lot of mukes into the EU and aim every one of them at russia. tell putin put up or shut up...NOW. no more fucking threatening, use the fuckers, or we're going to come take them.
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Best debate ever, won by a landslide!
!And 1M people were there and watched.Best debate ever, won by a landslide!