Nugnewbie
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Um no. Ally. The democratic countries leader was bullied, and kicked out of the whitehouse and Putin is happy. The most recent vote in the UN had USA voting alongside and in parallel with N. Korea and Belarus.
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natureboygrower
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Youre Canadian, right? I'm honestly curious as to how much money/aid your govt/taxpayers have put towards Ukraine?
And how much more money/aid and for how much longer does the American taxpayer have to aid Ukraine in order to prove we aren't " Putin's bitch"?
laddyd
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They appear to have all their pieces in place. Supreme court, congress, the media, check check check.
Hidden pieces that they bring out when needed like Gabbard, Manchkin, Sinema and Fetterman. Check.
You notice there's virtually nothing in the media today about the boycott. I bet they have all kinds of coverage for the latest celebrity nip slip though.
Hidden pieces that they bring out when needed like Gabbard, Manchkin, Sinema and Fetterman. Check.
You notice there's virtually nothing in the media today about the boycott. I bet they have all kinds of coverage for the latest celebrity nip slip though.
Ozumoz66
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Since the beginning of 2022, Canada has committed $19.7 billion in multifaceted support to Ukraine. This includes:
www.pm.gc.ca
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- Over $12.4 billion in direct financial assistance, the highest in the G7 on a per capita basis.
A just and lasting peace for Ukraine
The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, visited Kyiv today to reaffirm Canada’s unwavering support for Ukraine.
natureboygrower
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According to a study done by the Kiel institute the US has put up 42.7% of all aid supplied to Ukraine starting in Jan 2022, compared to 49.5% from all of Europe combined and 7.8% from other countries. American taxpayers are drowning enough from our own governments debt, it's hard to justify more money for a never ending war. One that seems most young Ukrainian men don't want to die for.Since the beginning of 2022, Canada has committed $19.7 billion in multifaceted support to Ukraine. This includes:
- Over $12.4 billion in direct financial assistance, the highest in the G7 on a per capita basis.
.A just and lasting peace for Ukraine
The Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, visited Kyiv today to reaffirm Canada’s unwavering support for Ukraine.
natureboygrower
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And? I guess that might have a little meaning to people that are being controlled by emotion. Facts are Ukraine will never win, even with all the support from foreign countries. What's next, sending foreign troops over? What's going to happen when Ukraine runs out of troops which they surely will. Footage of young Ukrainian men being hauled into vans to fight is real, look around and you'll find it.
Next we'll be putins dog because we won't send in our own troops? Would that be fair for Ukraine to ask of us? Where does it end?
Nugnewbie
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but a majority of the "aid" that was "given" went to the American military industrial complex and never actually left the USA. I don't know actual figures, but I'm sure if I googled I would find reputable news sources that agree with what I'm saying. Oh well, the insurrectionist and his minions are raiding Medicaid to pay for their next big tax cut helping the richest and harming the most marginalized, so they obviously pay lip service to reducing the debt , when all they want to do is give the richest more, and everybody else less.
So, the Ukraine didn't have a choice about being invaded, and yes their citizens are dying while Putin has troops from N. Korea fighting on his behalf, so he can delay subscription of more russian men to die in the meat grinder. The USA has committed no troops. Military industrial complex has made a ton of money. The Ukraine will never win with an ally as untrustworthy as the USA.
Nugnewbie
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Here is a list of countries who have given aid to the Ukraine in relation to GDP. Oh, and again, no US troops.
www.ussc.edu.au
By the numbers | US ranks 12th in support for Ukraine by GDP
www.ussc.edu.au
natureboygrower
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Don't know , dude. I grabbed those Kiel numbers from a BBC article, I figured they were trustworthy.
You can blame the US and Trump all you want. But a lot of Americans ( and across the globe) feel the same about the war in Ukraine, and no they aren't Maga.
Why do you keep bringing up US troops? Of course I know there aren't any over there. But the way some people feel about this war i wouldn't be surprised if we were expected to send our troops to that shitshow next. Ya know, to prove we aren't putins bitchHere is a list of countries who have given aid to the Ukraine in relation to GDP. Oh, and again, no US troops.
By the numbers | US ranks 12th in support for Ukraine by GDP
Nugnewbie
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I am Canadian, yes. Thank you Ozumoz for putting up the numbers from Canada and Europe. The felon (who is now the elected leader) is proving by his actions that indeed, he is, you are "Putins bitch", sorry. Actions speak louder than words. But, it's not about proving anything to anyone. It's about protecting and furthering democracy as a system of government, and it's not looking so good for the future. But, hey, just tell me to stfu if you are cool with autocracy. No problem. I'm not being emotional when I defend democracy. It isn't the easiest form of government as it requires participation from its citizens. To me, the alternatives are much less appealing.
doublejj
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on Dec 5th 1994 the US signed the "Budapest Memorandum" guaranteeing Ukraine soveranty in exchange for giving up the second largest Nuclear arsenal in the world. There was no ending date. America needs to stick to the agreement they signed. The world cannot trust America today thanks to republicans
laddyd
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I don't want to beat a dead horse but diving deeper this gets curiouser and curiouser.
The censorship was pretty much instantaneous.
I can think of only 3 countries that excerpt that kind of totalitarian control, Russia, Korea and China. I only mentioned one in my comment, you can draw you own conclusions.
That's some algorithm they have there. Instantaneous censorship.
natureboygrower
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This type of lingo been going around since 2016. It's lost it's meaning. It doesn't hurt feelings. We don't care. We are tired of the govt overspending, the media lies, and race wars etc. . And when I say we, I mean everyday, good, decent American taxpayers. You can mislabel us all as Maga, we don't care anymore.
Ozumoz66
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When Russia withdraws it's troops.
It is a shared belief that bad things only happen because a few good people (countries) fail to act. I have a distain for bullies.
Like tariffs that are being imposed next week, violating trade agreements less than 4 years old. Integrity lost, trust broken.
Nugnewbie
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Ok, didn't realize you were done with it all and have given up, and given in. Your choice. I don't have to point anything out, but it seems to me that there are Americans who do still care. It's not like you haven't been bombarded with Russian propaganda in your news feeds, Facebook, etc, because the rest of the free world gets the same crap. That one party in your country is repeating these talking points is quite telling, no?