Vigorous sativas for a northern climate?

mandocat said:

I have a Salvisa cross that is doing very well against the septoria! This is the worst out break I have had in 7 years, despite multiple sprayings of sulfur and Cease. Most of the plants probably won't make. Will breed with the resistant plant and look at those seeds next summer.

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I agree, I sprayed regalia/cease/multi diff things mix and rotation and so many previous np plants got leaf spot hardcore . this is a worst leaf spot/septoria r I’ve ever experienced and I’ve been growing steadily for 15+ years outdoors . Few weeks ago I decided to go hardcore and I did high dosage of liquid copper , that def seem to help but since so much pressure and damage it’s too late . next year I’m gonnea make sure to in rotation outdoor use liquid copper and be more ocd about removing the obvious infected leafs , I tried super hard to remove all but by the time my square was cleaned up the newer/non infected woild re appear infection ….

it’s def pheno depending and it seems also fast blooming seem to be even more vulnerable to such. luckily now-end it won’t be as warm and leaf spot seems to slow down. It’s just the previous damage it def impacted whole results and for how nice and healthy everything to see majority of garden be inpacted is def depressing .

Free Freedom said:

Green Mountain Seeds
Purple Satellite (1979 Oaxacan gold purple IBL x Nepalese Sativa) finishes mid to late September
Highland Oaxacan Gold Finished Sept 31st to mid Oct.
Mountain Gold (Oaxacan Gold x Hawaiian Sativa) Sept 31st to Oct 15
.I have had good luck at 41N, and he is a New England Breeder

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I grew purple satellite outdoors in Minnesota, excellent outdoor strain. I also recommend fast n glorious from mandala seeds.

compassionateExotic said:

I agree, I sprayed regalia/cease/multi diff things mix and rotation and so many previous np plants got leaf spot hardcore . this is a worst leaf spot/septoria r I’ve ever experienced and I’ve been growing steadily for 15+ years outdoors . Few weeks ago I decided to go hardcore and I did high dosage of liquid copper , that def seem to help but since so much pressure and damage it’s too late . next year I’m gonnea make sure to in rotation outdoor use liquid copper and be more ocd about removing the obvious infected leafs , I tried super hard to remove all but by the time my square was cleaned up the newer/non infected woild re appear infection ….

it’s def pheno depending and it seems also fast blooming seem to be even more vulnerable to such. luckily now-end it won’t be as warm and leaf spot seems to slow down. It’s just the previous damage it def impacted whole results and for how nice and healthy everything to see majority of garden be inpacted is def depressing .

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For this season, as a biome/nutrient based approach to septoria and disease, I applied some sulfur to my soil, and have added a very small amount into my compost teas... I used the epsom blueberry soil acidifier...I bought like the 15$ bag and added 75% (about 6 cups) to about 30 yards of soil. The other 25% was used for the compost teas, for 9 big maine girls..... some myths are real.

MY soil is almost 100% leaf mold soil with generous eggshells from a local place and some lime with mg too. Leaf mold soils tend to have a ph right around 7 when properly hydrated.... so it has room ph wise for sulfur additives without pushing it too acidic. I strictly compost tea feed, brewing up some bug frass, guano, worm castings, sulfur, ash, lime, and a hint of molasses in a soil base with a mycorrhizas leachate from a aged white pine wood chip pile, aerated with a bubbler. ...., I add small amount of terp tea grow during veg.

Pretty much zero disease of any kind this summer... no spraying nothin'..... northeast, western maine....

Makes me wonder if supporting the soil biome makes the plants resilient and disease resistant? Kinda like humans and their gut biome? And what is wrong with america? antibiotics in the food killing gut bugs = chronic disease and psych issues..... kinda like septoria.

Sevenleaves said:

Even with the training, I am surprised that it stated flowering mid June. I have had plants flower in mid July, earliest for me. Good to here you will have at some early stuff.

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yes, I think it may be a strategy specifically with superwreck..... both plants I have finishing right now behaved the same.... they are S1's from some f6 arcata cuts from 2020.... so in some respects, it should express fairly predictably as f6 are super stable regarding consistency in expression.... looks like s1'ing the f6 arcata made it vulnerable to light and flowering in late may outdoor lighting, western maine.

So a strategy for superwreck is, get big superwreck plants going out, put them out early (may24/25 should do it in the northeast) to force flowering in june... harvest a 1-2 pounder in late august, with proper soil quality, volume and feeding. Avoids all the issues with september outdoors, and it's not an auto, nor even a fast flower with ruderalis in it.... it;s a straight photo s1 from pheno hunted f6's.

If I can get a pic up, you will see.... like 50+ badonks on each of those girls, just saggin now as they put it on.

outsidegrower said:

I grew purple satellite outdoors in Minnesota, excellent outdoor strain. I also recommend fast n glorious from mandala seeds.

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what's the flavor and terps with that satellite? Decent sativa effects? Make any hash or rosin with it?