Unconventional Organics

Sincerely420 said:

Why maple tree leaves? In what way do you think old wet leaves would add an nutritional value to the soil ecosystem?
Old leaves can be use in a composting for the lead mold...

Seems like it would be pointless to put leaves in a tea off whim but it's possible you know something I don't

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Ehh not really a whim just new and trying to figure it all out... I just wasn't really sure where to start...

So a tea needs to be made with the compost because of the bacterial growth now i'm starting to get it I have a compost pile now I just need to dig to the bottom and get some tea going

Sincerely420 said:

Crushed Oyster shell is also used as a liming agent bro

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Exactly why I used it! Not to mention the Calcium aspect...

The influence it could make on my PH would be slight in the short amount of time I have these plants growing. But none the less, I am a huge believer in highly mineral rich soils as a key aspect of plant health. And my soil recipes tend to contain way more of all the rock dusts than many others add.

psychoholic22 said:

Ehh not really a whim just new and trying to figure it all out... I just wasn't really sure where to start...

So a tea needs to be made with the compost because of the bacterial growth now i'm starting to get it I have a compost pile now I just need to dig to the bottom and get some tea going

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Different amendments serve different purposes bro. Check out the Organic soil link in my thread. You can find some info that I've posted there regarding the matter. And leaves won't brew you bacteria bro...Using your soil, EWCs, or some kinda compost will get that process started for you.
And yeahh I've you've got a compost pile go for it bro! Just don't use plain leaves...I think it would be a waste of time..
But yeah scrolling thru the little thread I made should help you bro

Leaves will give you nutrience as will all organic matter I use my leaf I take off to feed my plants back just like nature intended they grow in last years leaf stem roots.

I put two cups water in a blender and keep adding and blending leaf till I have 3 cups total one cup of leaf then put that in a gallon and let it ferment with a tbs molasses, vinegar, a b vitamin.

I shake it up every day when it stops foaming it's done less than two weeks just give it a good shake before I use 1-4 cups to a gallon depending on the size of the plant.

Mostly I feed with alfalfa but also EWC, oatmeal, coffee, fruit.

As far as I've learned bro, leaves in the sense that Psychoholic was referring to are ONLY good for leaf mold in compost.

And the methods that you've mentioned..They differ from what he was talking about greatly...
Hes talking about leaves that have been sitting in rain water over the winter not the ones from his plants

I know the old school method of brewing compost teas which is what your closer to doing if anything.
Aerating your compost tea supercharges it. That's what you want to do...AACTs are done in a day or two TOPS & require oxygenation.
Fermenting/plant extracts are a different thing tho.

I'm not knocking your work tho. I know that what you do it your art, like what I do is mine...again I'm just trying to share some shit.
Ppl get hostile quick lol. I'm just conversing here so to speak

*fucking typos

I believe I get more out of it going through than natural cycle where elements break down into other forms and more can be leached out.
I haven't airated tea so can't really compare but I like having my consistant feed ready and partaly or mostly broken down.

That's wassup. Look into the differences between an AACT and a compost tea tho and you should be able to see what I mean pretty easily.
You just might end up trying it haha you never know. I know I've got to look in to extracts more

I have looked into airated teas but believe in the breakdown fermentation and as far as oxygen in the water some good strong shaking with a cap on will maximise it but you also have to shake up the feed mix to add oxygen to it also.

I will run a comparison one day.

Wow..what a read!! A lot of im correct and your not and so on...
Ok so reading your posts firstly on bottled water--I have drank bottled water now for many years as I just cant cope with the fact that tap water has already gone through the human digestive system over 5-6 times before they actually change the res. But I would never drink or eat anything made by Netsle. I also feel that using carbonated water for your plants really does not make much of a difference (in soil) as your soil should have enough ailments in it to produce a sufficient amount of co2, that combined with the air coming into your room. I have been farming for years (not weed) but i have a few friends that grow weed. So i know the score!!. Anyway sitcking an airstone in your water before you water your plants for 15-20 mins should be plenty of c02 for your plants..remember a plant only takes what it needs and co2 is everywhere.

As for this dude that grinds stones in a coffee grinder lmao.. Air pots are reveloutionary, Just poking a few holes in the side of a pot is nothing like using an airpot!! They dont dry out too quick and can be used over and over again. You will never get rootbound in an airpot. Them silly ordinary pots are just a breeding ground for root rot etc. Put it this way IMHO like the internet ..old ordinary pots=dial up.. New airpots=fiber power its that simple.

Happy Growing Everyone.

Has anyone seen my Passive Hydro setup using Super Soil journal?

D3monic said:

When ever I plant a seedling I bury a live fish with it. Nothing overly large, max 1"

This is more of a sacrificial thing than for nutrients but some provided obviously.

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..... you do what??????

Dilluted epsom salt, milk, and urine

I'll see how it goes

I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to teas and organics but my understanding is bio-diversity is the goal. So by aact'ing and brewing fermented teas/extracts in tandem you would do that. If somethings "better" but doesn't provide all your ingredients how good is it? I'm making blackberry bush everything, don't have bamboo KNF is really neat.

YB33 said:

Dilluted epsom salt, milk, and urine

I'll see how it goes

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highly recommend avoiding the milk....

A good friend of mine lives in an off the grid hippy house. it has a "composting toilet" basicly a longdrop dunny with a big wooden crate underneath. everytime you do your business you throw a few handfuls of sawdust down (to help with odour) they replace the crate once full and let it compost for 12-18months. they use the compost on their vege and guerrilla gardens and it grows unbelievable plants.

dankdope said:

A good friend of mine lives in an off the grid hippy house. it has a "composting toilet" basicly a longdrop dunny with a big wooden crate underneath. everytime you do your business you throw a few handfuls of sawdust down (to help with odour) they replace the crate once full and let it compost for 12-18months. they use the compost on their vege and guerrilla gardens and it grows unbelievable plants.

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I guess if it's working for them then there is no need to change things up ..... BUT, you're not really supposed to use human poop or any other type of feces that comes from carnivores (dogs, cats, etc). Pathogens can be spread easily that way. Cow, rabbit, alpaca, etc poop is a better option for composting. I suppose as long as they thoroughly wash the veggies before they eat them then all is well.

Hey guys,

I'm using this mix for aact tea right now. I've been diluting it 1 to 3 with water. The brew seems like it would be a light solution.... should I be diluting it that much? At all? If I'm correct I can feed aact every time.

I appreciate the insight.


- 1gal of water.
- 3 Tablespoons compost
- 1/2 Teaspoon Neptunes Harvest Dry Kelp Meal
- 1/2 Teaspoon Neptunes Harvest Liquid Fish
- 1/2 Teaspoon Indonesian Bat Guano
- 1 Teaspoon Unsulphered Robust Molasses.

dankdope said:

A good friend of mine lives in an off the grid hippy house. it has a "composting toilet" basicly a longdrop dunny with a big wooden crate underneath. everytime you do your business you throw a few handfuls of sawdust down (to help with odour) they replace the crate once full and let it compost for 12-18months. they use the compost on their vege and guerrilla gardens and it grows unbelievable plants.

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the best naturally available additive to an outhouse is ash from a fire. Sawdust, for someone living a subsistence lifestyle, is better used elsewhere. You can mix it with a cheap glue like elmers and have a great caulk or crack sealer or put it between the logs of a log cabin after the logs are dried.

I use ash, urine, crap, veggies and fruits, molasses, and a few organic store-bought nutes, and that is about it. Sprinkling ash around the base of your plant will prevent any crawling insects from invading your plants and keep ants from making a nest at the base, which I have had them do.

What about dry dog food it has all kinds of minerals and bytes in it?