Trumps 2019 Guiliani is 2011's Michael Cohen.

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
So it looks like Trump (just like he did in 2011) sends his criminal lawyer to a far away place looking for anything on his opponent to mangle into a conspiracy theory by. Today on Fox News he completely spun something in a obvious filibuster until the 'guest' host had to cut to commercial break.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/22/giuliani_ladies_and_gentleman_go_look_at_what_the_press_has_been_covering_up_on_you.html
(I don't have a clip to youtube of it yet or I would post it here)

At least Cohen wasn't to a foreign country that was just withheld millions of dollars in defensive aid when Trump send him out to do his dirty work.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-embraces-birther/story?id=13240431
In an interviewMonday with ABC News, Michael Cohen said what concerns Trump is transparency.

"He made a statement only because it's an issue that has been around now for over four years, and one would think that the president of this great country would pull out his long-form birth certificate, put the entire issue to rest," Cohen said. "But this pres who ran on a platform of transparency has decided not to do that."

Cohen, who has been handling some political matters for Trump, including reaching out to Republican leaders and activists in such early nominating states as Iowa, also took issue with comments made by "View" host Whoopi Goldberg, who suggested that Trump's insistence that Obama release his birth certificate may be racially motivated.

"It's not 'cause he's black, is it?" Goldberg asked Trump last week," because I've never heard any white president asked to show the birth certificate." (In his "Fox and Friends" interview Monday morning Trump said, "I like Whoopi" but called the racism suggestion "insulting.")

Cohen echoed that sentiment.

"Donald Trump is not a racist, he's not a bigot, he doesn't care if you're black, white, green, blue, indigo or violet," Cohen said. "He doesn't care. He treats everyone the same. Shame on her for playing the race card."
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
So it looks like Trump (just like he did in 2011) sends his criminal lawyer to a far away place looking for anything on his opponent to mangle into a conspiracy theory by. Today on Fox News he completely spun something in a obvious filibuster until the 'guest' host had to cut to commercial break.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/22/giuliani_ladies_and_gentleman_go_look_at_what_the_press_has_been_covering_up_on_you.html
(I don't have a clip to youtube of it yet or I would post it here)

At least Cohen wasn't to a foreign country that was just withheld millions of dollars in defensive aid when Trump send him out to do his dirty work.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-embraces-birther/story?id=13240431

 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member

A couple days old, but this pretty much sums up what the Democrats are all fired up today. Nancy @5pm should be interesting, I wonder what Trump has up next to try to distract from it.
 

RocketBoy

Well-Known Member

A couple days old, but this pretty much sums up what the Democrats are all fired up today. Nancy @5pm should be interesting, I wonder what Trump has up next to try to distract from it.
Trump: Hey look guy's Iran is attacking Saudi Arabia again, lets forget about everything thats going on back home.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Screen Shot 2020-01-24 at 4.36.56 PM.png
He lost his mind. As long as you start out with "I was told this" I guess it doesn't matter what you say.

I give Brian Kilmeade credit @11:30-ish, he asked the best question that was just ignored completely. "And where is all this money" Biden supposedly gotten.
 
Last edited:

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Trump's Criminal Lawyer went out and told governors to 'take the blame' for Trump if you want your citizens to get what they need if they want to live and to be safe while helping people who are sick.

The American citizens are the 'boss', not Trump.....
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/david-correia-lev-parnas-rudy-giuliani-fraud-gaurantee/2020/10/29/64a14164-19fd-11eb-aeec-b93bcc29a01b_story.html
Screen Shot 2020-10-30 at 5.53.17 PM.png

NEW YORK — An ex-associate of Lev Parnas — the Ukrainian-born businessman who helped Rudolph W. Giuliani pursue political dirt on Joe Biden — pleaded guilty Thursday to defrauding investors in an insurance start-up that paid Giuliani for consulting work and to lying to federal regulators investigating suspected campaign finance violations.

David Correia, whose arrest last year along with Parnas and two other men played a passing role in President Trump’s impeachment, told a federal judge in Manhattan that he gave false information to backers of his company, Fraud Guarantee, which paid Giuliani $500,000 before the former New York mayor teamed with Parnas to look for information in Ukraine that they hoped would damage Biden politically.

Giuliani, who is Trump’s personal lawyer, was not mentioned during Thursday’s proceeding. He has maintained there was nothing improper about his consulting work or his efforts to undermine Biden, though his activities abroad have drawn the scrutiny of federal prosecutors here.

Giuliani associate Lev Parnas faces new criminal charges

Appearing virtually due to the coronavirus pandemic, Correia, 45, told U.S. District Judge Paul Oetken that he misled investors in Fraud Guarantee. The start-up claimed it would provide insurance and “risk management tools” to other companies, but it was never operational and offered “no insurance product whatsoever,” said Assistant U.S. Attorney Douglas Zolkind.

Investors provided between $200,000 and $500,000 to build a legitimate business, but prosecutors say the money was used instead on luxury purchases and to pay Parnas’s rent.

“At no point did it become operational,” Zolkind said. “Nor did it have any customers.”

Prosecutors disclosed the fraud case last month in a superseding indictment that made clear their investigation was not solely focused on a campaign finance scheme. At the time, a lawyer for Parnas, Joseph Bondy, signaled he would fight the new charges, having pleaded not guilty in the campaign finance case.

Bondy did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Correia had pleaded not guilty to the initial set of charges but later changed course and agreed to a deal with prosecutors. In the campaign finance portion of their investigation, prosecutors had focused on statements he gave to the Federal Election Commission concerning the source of a $325,000 donation made to a pro-Trump super PAC, America First Action.

Correia had said in a sworn statement that the donation was funded by a natural gas import firm for which he worked and characterized to election regulators as a flourishing operation with “substantial bona fide capital investment,” Zolkind said.

It turned out to be a nonfunctioning business entity, and the donation was made instead using cash from a mortgage loan procured by another co-defendant in the case, Igor Fruman, prosecutors have said.

Correia admitted in court Thursday that he “just wanted the FEC to end its investigation,” which he “believed at the at the time was unwarranted.”

“I knew this was wrong at the time I did it,” he told the judge.

As part of the agreement, Correia needs to pay more than $2 million in restitution and forfeit about $46,000, representing illicit profits.

Correia’s plea agreement says he should spend up to 3 1/2 years in prison. His sentencing was set for Feb. 8.

Parnas, Fruman and another defendant, Andrey Kukushkin, are due in court next month to be arraigned on the superseding indictment that included the Fraud Guarantee allegations. Like Parnas, Fruman and Kukushkin have pleaded not guilty to the campaign finance charges.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/26/giuliani-conspiracy-influencer-lawsuit/
Screen Shot 2021-01-26 at 8.49.29 AM.png
As he outlined how “pervasive voter fraud” had turned the United States into “Venezuela or China or the old Soviet Union,” Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani, paused his video podcast to offer his audience an incredible deal.

For just $596, an online fraud-protection company that Giuliani called “the only folks to trust that I know of” was selling four years of online defense from home-stealing “cyber thieves.”

“Use code ‘Rudy’ — that’s me — and sign up for 30 free days of protection,” Giuliani said, before resuming a diatribe about an international communist vote-stealing plot — and, later, another advertisement, in which he hawked dietary supplements. The episode of his YouTube series, “Rudy Giuliani’s Common Sense,” has been viewed more than 500,000 times.

Giuliani’s conspiracy-theory infomercials stand at the center of an extraordinary defamation lawsuit filed Monday by Dominion Voting Systems, which is seeking more than $1.3 billion in damages from him for what its attorneys said were “demonstrably false allegations” that led company employees to endure months of harassment and death threats.

Giuliani, the lawsuit alleges, knowingly spread falsehoods about the company to bolster Trump’s failing attempts to overturn the reality of his election loss. But Giuliani had another incentive for doing so, the lawyers wrote: He “cashed in by hosting a podcast where he exploited election falsehoods to market gold coins, supplements, cigars, and protection from ‘cyber thieves.’ ”

The lawsuit helps cast a spotlight on why so much viral disinformation rockets across the Web: Purveyors of falsehoods are often financially rewarded as the audiences for their claims grow. Premium subscriptions, merchandise sales and advertisement revenue form the backbone of the online-influencer economy — and if the audience is buying it, the creators make money, regardless of the facts.

The lawsuit frames Giuliani not as an ideological crusader but as a shrewd marketer eager to monetize his growing fan base, using the kinds of social-media-influencer techniques popular across YouTube, Facebook and Instagram, including infomercial-style endorsements and promotional discount codes.

The 107-page complaint, filed in D.C. federal court, features several screenshots of Giuliani’s wide-ranging and sometimes theatrical advertisements, launched even as he portrayed himself as defending democracy from a dastardly global scheme.

As he pitched fraud detection packages on YouTube, Giuliani was said to throw “his arms in the air as if to emphasize the obvious danger of entrusting important matters to technology.”

Giuliani and other high-profile Trump supporters, including attorneys Sidney Powell and L. Lin Wood, echoed the claims of a stolen election for weeks in online videos, social media posts, real-world rallies and TV appearances that reached millions around the world.

Dominion attorney Tom Clare said Monday that the company would probably pursue other lawsuits beyond Giuliani to set the record straight, adding, “We’re looking at everybody.”

Dominion voting machine firm sues Giuliani for more than $1.3 billion

Giuliani said in a statement that the suit was “another act of intimidation by the hate-filled left-wing to wipe out and censor the exercise of free speech.” He also argued that Dominion’s suit would allow him to “investigate their history, finances, and practices fully and completely.”

Screen Shot 2021-01-26 at 8.54.39 AM.png

41 minutes of fear: A video timeline from inside the Capitol siege

Former congressman Denver Riggleman (R-Va.), who was endorsed by Trump but lost his reelection bid last year during a contentious GOP convention, said the case shows how Giuliani and other peddlers of vote -fraud falsehoods have taken “advantage of otherwise good people by pushing out mass amounts of disinformation to preselected echo chambers.”

Riggleman noted that channels devoted to conspiracy theories and extremist movements, such as QAnon, routinely sell apocalypse-preparation supplies and seek political donations while riling up viewers about the imminent dangers of the “deep state,” Democrats or other perceived enemies.

“This is the largest conspiratorial grift in United States history,” Riggleman said. “The grift they monetized eventually became weaponized.”

To boost voter fraud claims, Trump advocate Sidney Powell turns to unusual source: The longtime operator of QAnon’s Internet home

Dominion’s lawsuit, which follows a similar complaint it filed against Powell earlier this month, joins a growing legal wave of defamation cases targeting the purveyors of online falsehoods. In the most notable case, parents of children murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 sued Alex Jones, the host of the conspiracy theory show “Infowars,” after he alleged that the family members were fraudulent “crisis actors” pushing a fake shooting in hopes of enacting more gun-control laws.

The Texas Supreme Court last week rejected Jones’s attempt to block the suits, which are seeking millions of dollars in damages.

Jones’s attorneys have said that his “pursuit of so-called ‘conspiracy theories’ concerning controversial government activities” is protected by the First Amendment. But Jones, like Giuliani, had also regularly advertised nutritional supplements during his videos, which attracted massive audiences.

Giuliani has promoted OmegaXL, a non-FDA-approved supplement he pledged could help manage “painful, achy joints,” saying on YouTube, “There’s nothing like it.” The Infowars store hawks “testosterone boosters” and other supplements designed to “create superior vitality in males,” including one that Jones was said to have used to “maximize vitality when working up to 12 hours a day or more in the fight for freedom.”

QAnon believers seek to adapt their extremist ideology for a new era: ‘Things have just started’

Mark Bankston, a lawyer who represents parents in the Jones lawsuits, said he finds it troubling how the kinds of conspiracy theory misinformation popularized by Jones and other fringe voices several years ago has increasingly become mainstream.

“Jones was able to hype up his supplement sales with this fantastical misinformation, these fantasies he would spin,” Bankston said. Now, with Giuliani, “we have someone of national prominence, who has their hands on the lever of powers, using the same exact tactics that were used by Alex Jones and ended up causing torment to my clients for years.”

Bankston said he hopes the legal action will show “this new breed of misinformation peddler online” that “it's not a profitable way to make money anymore,” but he acknowledged that the tactic has clear limits.

The Jones and Giuliani cases focus on specific harms from misinformation, “but what do we do when someone shares misinformation about the coronavirus that hurts us all?” he said. “The plaintiffs’ attorneys can’t help us there.”

Riggleman said he nevertheless expected that Dominion’s legal action would strike fear in the other high-profile figures who targeted private companies and other individuals with falsehoods alleging massive voter fraud and other crimes. He expects that other companies targeted by conspiracy theorists will file their own lawsuits.

“We can’t legislate away stupid,” Riggleman said, “but you can certainly sue people for it.”
 

CunningCanuk

Well-Known Member
Laura Coates nails it.

Disclaimer appears to surprise Giuliani before radio show. Hear his reaction
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rudy-giuliani-suspended-practice-law-york/story?id=78466032Screen Shot 2021-06-24 at 11.48.47 AM.png
A New York court has just suspended the law license of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, citing in part his work as counsel to former President Donald Trump.

The Appellate Division of the New York Supreme Court said Thursday they were "immediately suspending" his license, although it is an "interim" suspension, so he will have an opportunity for reinstatement.

"There is uncontroverted evidence that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump’s failed effort at reelection in 2020," the Appellate Division wrote.
 
Top