Thievery Defence

getogrow

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I guess I hear that but don’t understand the mentality or mind set of not legally protecting and defending your home .
Defending yourself is not really legal as it used to be. In his situation (unless he can scare them one good time) he gets a gun to protect himself and his stuff (all legal) The problem with that is that there is a 90% chance he is going to need to USE that gun.... i dont know the OP but i know those odds are way too high for me. Sure your stuff is protected but now youve killed someone ....50 court dates at least... jail for a few days to months....a cop a day for the rest of your life. sounds better to just avoid the whole deal and "run"....
 

Renfro

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Just saying that booby traps are definitely out. lol

The basic wisdom here is keep your business to yourself. Even if you are legal people will wanna fuck it up for you or take your stuff. This happens in business all the time. Don't get zuckerberged so to speak.
 

SpaceGrease

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Defending yourself is not really legal as it used to be. In his situation (unless he can scare them one good time) he gets a gun to protect himself and his stuff (all legal) The problem with that is that there is a 90% chance he is going to need to USE that gun.... i dont know the OP but i know those odds are way too high for me. Sure your stuff is protected but now youve killed someone ....50 court dates at least... jail for a few days to months....a cop a day for the rest of your life. sounds better to just avoid the whole deal and "run"....
I don’t know anything about that either . This is the Wild Wild fucking West and I clearly have different up bringing than you but thanx for sharing you.
 

Neubieauto

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I liked the idea of growing hemp, getting the grow space 100% legal and putting up a wildlife camera or 2. Hemp seeds r cheap cheap cheap and you can grow it to look just like some real good shit. Move your real grow to a new temporary location for a bit albeit it probably won't be a legal space , but it seems like you're willing to take a little risk. Throw some hemp seeds in soil and put them back in your original grow spot. Put 2 cameras up to make sure you catch him breaking in and stealing the property. This way all your out is a bit of money for hemp seeds and cameras and the cameras are handy to have anyway and easily resold for only a little loss. And a bit of time and water for the hemp. This sounds like a you win and he loses situation.
 

Neubieauto

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Or I guess the cameras and police aren't really even necessary in this situation. Once he smokes a bunch of that hemp and doesnt get high. He prolly will think you're a shit grower now and move on to someone else's shit.
 

macsnax

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I literally left NM after crossing a gang that’s been around since the late 30’s. A family tradition for some. They’ve been featured at least twice on A&E stuff about gangs. The Brewtown Locos. I can hear laughs now. But you don’t laugh when 50-75 show up armed on both ends of the street. The second time they tried to shoot me it struck the door of my old lady’s truck. Dumb bastards shooting 9’s. You never know who you are actually messing with.

By the way I had zero clue this little worm was the son of the president of this bunch. He was locked down in the NM state pen but still called all the shots. He didn’t take too kindly to me shooting up their video store that was a front. I wasn’t shooting any pea shooter either. Explaining why they shot from hiding both times but a guy gets two breaks you don’t try for a third.
Yikes man, I'd be skipping town too. There's definitly something to be said for not messing with the wrong peeps, lol. At least you made it out if there with your ass still attached.
 

Neubieauto

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Yikes man, I'd be skipping town too. There's definitly something to be said for not messing with the wrong peeps, lol. At least you made it out if there with your ass still attached.
Macsnax off topic lol but have you ever used colloidal silver for fem seeds? Question is can u pollinate the same plant with pollen from 1 of its branches? Say just trying to not pay for auto fem seeds. Or will the seeds be herm prone?
 

SpaceGrease

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[QUOTE="Once he smokes a bunch of that hemp and doesnt get high. He prolly will think you're a shit grower now and move on to someone else's shit.[/QUOTE]

To funny made me spit coffee out !

Good one for me to end on ,gl again OP hope you stand your ground .
 

macsnax

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If a reversal is done properly, the seeds won't carry hermie traits. And you can reverse a plant and let it pollinate itself, it's best to take cuts and pollinate a different cutting. But thats not going to work with autos. Not for an s1, but you could do it with two different autos, creating a new strain. Start spraying your pollen donor a week or two before flower, by the second week of flower pollen should be dropping. And your seed mom goes into flower about a week or two after you start spraying the pollen donor.
 

Neubieauto

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If a reversal is done properly, the seeds won't carry hermie traits. And you can reverse a plant and let it pollinate itself, it's best to take cuts and pollinate a different cutting. But thats not going to work with autos. Not for an s1, but you could do it with two different autos, creating a new strain. Start spraying your pollen donor a week or two before flower, by the second week of flower pollen should be dropping. And your seed mom goes into flower about a week or two after you start spraying the pollen donor.
Okay. That's good news. In definitely going to start doing this. Just breeding same strain autos for now just to not pay for seeds lol. Eventually I want to start crossing strains or creating new auto strains. I ended up with some cnc f3 seeds that came from some of your cnc f2 seeds and I have a really nice gorilla glue and or green crack autos from fastbuds. The fastbuds autos are top notch genetics and I have yet to grow the cnc f3s I was gifted but I feel like they would do great as a mix with the gg#4auto... but that's a project for the future lol. It seems like a big one. Seems to take 4 or 5 generations to get a semi stable auto lol.
 

macsnax

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Okay. That's good news. In definitely going to start doing this. Just breeding same strain autos for now just to not pay for seeds lol. Eventually I want to start crossing strains or creating new auto strains. I ended up with some cnc f3 seeds that came from some of your cnc f2 seeds and I have a really nice gorilla glue and or green crack autos from fastbuds. The fastbuds autos are top notch genetics and I have yet to grow the cnc f3s I was gifted but I feel like they would do great as a mix with the gg#4auto... but that's a project for the future lol. It seems like a big one. Seems to take 4 or 5 generations to get a semi stable auto lol.
Enjoy, making seeds is a pretty addicting addition to the hobby. Oh and if you're going to self pollinate like that, you'll want to let the plant run 2-3 weeks longer than you would chop for buds. You can pop a calyx open and check maturity as you go..... Watch for leaf crinkle/twist on those f3s, that's a sure sign the pheno will express either cookie or cookies n cream traits.
 

Neubieauto

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Enjoy, making seeds is a pretty addicting addition to the hobby. Oh and if you're going to self pollinate like that, you'll want to let the plant run 2-3 weeks longer than you would chop for buds. You can pop a calyx open and check maturity as you go..... Watch for leaf crinkle/twist on those f3s, that's a sure sign the pheno will express either cookie or cookies n cream traits.
I see. Wait 2 to 3 weeks extra for seeds to mature? Thanks for the tips. I'm excited to run the cnc it seems like a phenomenal strain just need to make room or get more light lol. I'm leaning toward the latter despite my wife's disapproval lol. I spend too much time with the green girls in my life already but she will deal lol. Also got some of the CNC x graveyard whistler. Am curious to see what kind of phenos end up in there.
 

macsnax

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I see. Wait 2 to 3 weeks extra for seeds to mature? Thanks for the tips. I'm excited to run the cnc it seems like a phenomenal strain just need to make room or get more light lol. I'm leaning toward the latter despite my wife's disapproval lol. I spend too much time with the green girls in my life already but she will deal lol. Also got some of the CNC x graveyard whistler. Am curious to see what kind of phenos end up in there.
Hell ya man, drop into the chucker thread sometime. Lots of cool crosses happening from a bit of peeps.
 

Neubieauto

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I lurk the chucker thread lol. I definitely dont have much to add there from myself. Just watching and trying to learn a bit from you guys. It just became legal here in Missouri and there are some big time grow ops that are going to be located in the town in in and I'd like to get my hands in it all a little bit before I try to apply to maybe make this a paying gig lol.
 

macsnax

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I lurk the chucker thread lol. I definitely dont have much to add there from myself. Just watching and trying to learn a bit from you guys. It just became legal here in Missouri and there are some big time grow ops that are going to be located in the town in in and I'd like to get my hands in it all a little bit before I try to apply to maybe make this a paying gig lol.
Cool cool man
 

horribleherk

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what are these people doing with the plants ? unless I've missed something this isn't the time to expect anything off an outdoor plant except maybe an autoflower put out in late march or early April
 

GranolaCornhola

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Just leave one bait plant outside and spray with rat poison, or highly toxic pesticide daily.

Let them smoke your toxic shit and die.

Or just let them tresspass, break and enter, Rob you, violate your space-property, laugh at you while they probably brag to their friends they stole weed from some "little bitch that won't do shit" and will do it all over again.

Why not just dry, cure, roll it, and hand deliver it to them while you polish their shoes and your girlfriend gives them a massage, complete with happy ending.
 

Stiickygreen

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Defending yourself is not really legal as it used to be. In his situation (unless he can scare them one good time) he gets a gun to protect himself and his stuff (all legal) The problem with that is that there is a 90% chance he is going to need to USE that gun.... i dont know the OP but i know those odds are way too high for me. Sure your stuff is protected but now youve killed someone ....50 court dates at least... jail for a few days to months....a cop a day for the rest of your life. sounds better to just avoid the whole deal and "run"....
Sounds good...all but the "all legal" part.....cus it ISN'T legal to have a gun and a pot grow in the same location....nor is it legal to possess if you use "illegal drugs". (read the Federal gun form...it;s right there) If they wanna fuck with ya over having a gun...they can...and if they do...it's a 5 year mandatory minimum sentencing...more (10 years) if you have it in your hands/act as if you will use it....and even more (25 years) if it's an "assault" type weapon. These laws have not caught up with legalization laws because they are FEDERAL laws.,..

be safe out there folks.
 

Rob Roy

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So it’s a given that I’m growing weed, outdoor, and it’s another that I have already been robbed this year. I grow legally in my state, excluding the fact that my plants aren’t in a confined area other than the fence that separates my neighbors’ property.

I know the person who stole my plants. He brags about how big they are. I know where he has them, the address, the owner and people who live there. And I’ve been told he was lurking my street last night.

Should I enclose the grow more than my property and call the cops? I’m at a loss. I don’t want to do anything rash or stupid, but I should do something. I’m more concerned about future plants being taken than the ones that were already stolen. These people that I’m dealing with are very aggressive, competitive, and indulgent - reason and persuasion have no leverage.

Thanks for your time and consideration. I ask for and appreciate any advice anyone might have.
Sorry to hear about your situation, definitely sucks.

Is your motivation to get your plants back or to get revenge ? Different possibilities for each.

If you continue to grow where you are and this isn't taken care of, you will only live in a constant state of concern that it will happen again. In other words you will be taking part inflicting anguish on yourself, don't do that. So, either stop growing, move or deal with the root of the problem, those are your choices.


The thief should be held responsible, if you absolutely know who it was. You could use police, but I wouldn't.

You need to outsmart him, if you can't out muscle him. Because he is a bully and a thief, he has lost any right to expect you to be civil in your solutions. It would be a shame if he fell into a pattern of bad luck. Sometimes Karma works faster if you nudge it along. Be creative.
 

McFrosticles

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As sore as it is I'd cut your losses. I know how devastating it is to have to give up on grows half way through but it's just not worth getting involved with idiots who don't have as much to lose, they're the most dangerous.

If he is guaranteed to steal it I'd poison that bud with something he won't be in a hurry to smoke again and anyone who buys from him won't be in a hurry to buy from him. Some sort of cayenne pepper oil spray, thatll burn his eyes, throat, dick, whatever it touches
 
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