The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

fdd2blk · Aug 28, 2011

NoDrama said:
So educating ones self has no value? That seems odd coming from someone who has tried to educate plenty of people on Growing MJ. Are you sure you should even post on this forum at all? I mean, wouldn't you be better off knitting yourself a sweater than coming to tell everyone that they don't need to really know what is going on in the world?

3100 posts of people arguing about ron paul is not "education".

dukeanthony · Aug 28, 2011

fdd2blk said:
3100 posts of people arguing about ron paul is not "education".

It is entertainment

I used to support Ron Paul and begged him to run for office

I know more about him now

he will never get my vote. Nor will he even win the Primary. I know it you know it Ron Paul Knows it

NoDrama · Aug 28, 2011

fdd2blk said:
3100 posts of people arguing about ron paul is not "education".

Who made you the grand arbiter of what is educational and what isn't? I myself have learned a huge amount from those 3100 posts, just because you are not able doesn't mean others are not capable of it.

WillyBagseed · Aug 28, 2011

Life tenant is not on all property titles and or deeds. There is the Homestead act (not much left here) and a few other options. If you go to a state and purchase real property without doing research you will more than likely get screwed more than 1 way. If you do not do your research and file the proper paperwork more than likely (at least in western states) you will end up with the structures on the property and the land without protection from the owners of the mineral rights, water rights and right of way (eminent domain, the State) procedures. Done properly you can protect yourself from all of these, including eminent domain.

*you forget, I used to be a crazy Libertarian (still am as far as personal freedoms ie. cannabis, guns etc.. etc). Lots of insane paperwork out there.... to bad most of it (not all) is a waste of time and space.

NoDrama · Aug 28, 2011

dukeanthony said:
CAN YOU DO THIS WITH YOUR TAP WATER?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U01EK76Sy4A

I dont know if you know this. But Refiniries stink up the area around them for miles. I lived by one (that burnt up btw) when I was a kid

Really? I lived 1/4 mile away from one for over 10 years, never noticed a damn thing. My water came out just fine, no smell in the air, one of the cleanest states in the entire nation as far as air Quality goes.

There goes all your assumptions down the drain...again.

fdd2blk · Aug 28, 2011

NoDrama said:
Who made you the grand arbiter of what is educational and what isn't? I myself have learned a huge amount from those 3100 posts, just because you are not able doesn't mean others are not capable of it.

thought this thread was about ron paul. lol

sooo easy. :eyesmoke:

dukeanthony · Aug 28, 2011

NoDrama said:
Really? I lived 1/4 mile away from one for over 10 years, never noticed a damn thing. My water came out just fine, no smell in the air, one of the cleanest states in the entire nation as far as air Quality goes.

There goes all your assumptions down the drain...again.

Its all fun and games now

WHo knows. You might be the benificiary of some new form of Cancer. And what Assumptions?

NoDrama · Aug 28, 2011

Willyßagseed;6176661 said:
Life tenant is not on all property titles and or deeds. There is the Homestead act (not much left here) and a few other options. If you go to a state and purchase real property without doing research you will more than likely get screwed more than 1 way. If you do not do your research and file the proper paperwork more than likely (at least in western states) you will end up with the structures on the property and the land without protection from the owners of the mineral rights, water rights and right of way (immanent domain, the State) procedures. Done properly you can protect yourself from all of these, including immanent domain.

*you forget, I used to be a crazy Libertarian (still am as far as personal freedoms ie. cannabis, guns etc.. etc). Lots of insane paperwork out there.... to bad most of it (not all) is a waste of time and space.

You are talking about Alloidial Title, Not the same thing.

NoDrama · Aug 28, 2011

dukeanthony said:
Its all fun and games now

WHo knows. You might be the benificiary of some new form of Cancer. And what Assumptions?

You assume all Refineries cause water problems and smell the place up, which isn't true AT ALL.

I might get cancer, might not. If I don't, can I use that as proof that Refineries don't contribute to cancer? If an old man smokes Cigarettes all his lifge and lives to be 120 and dies from old age, is that proof cigarettes don't cause cancer too?

Logical Fallacies are so easy to defeat.

dukeanthony · Aug 28, 2011

NoDrama said:
You are talking about Alloidial Title, Not the same thing.

All this talk about titles and deeds is not motivating me to go 4 feet over and look in the file cabinet. I actually dont know whats on mine. I do know that My mother and fathers title says they are prohibited from selling to Jews and blacks though

WillyBagseed · Aug 28, 2011

You are forgetting the "sovereign" paperwork and many other filings that must be done but it can be done.

dukeanthony · Aug 28, 2011

NoDrama said:
You assume all Refineries cause water problems and smell the place up, which isn't true AT ALL.

I might get cancer, might not. If I don't, can I use that as proof that Refineries don't contribute to cancer? If an old man smokes Cigarettes all his lifge and lives to be 120 and dies from old age, is that proof cigarettes don't cause cancer too?

Logical Fallacies are so easy to defeat.

Google says otherwise
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=oil+reinery+pollution&pbx=1&oq=oil+reinery+pollution&aq=f&aqi=g-s2&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1189l5550l0l5891l21l20l0l0l0l0l602l3587l3.13.3.5-1l20l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=f582e101530810fb&biw=1680&bih=917

NoDrama · Aug 28, 2011

Alloidial Title can only be Granted in Either Texas (limited) or Nevada. Anywhere else, you are a tenant.

NoDrama · Aug 28, 2011

dukeanthony said:
Google says otherwise
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=oil+reinery+pollution&pbx=1&oq=oil+reinery+pollution&aq=f&aqi=g-s2&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1189l5550l0l5891l21l20l0l0l0l0l602l3587l3.13.3.5-1l20l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=f582e101530810fb&biw=1680&bih=917

That isn't proof of ANYTHING!! You have NOTHING! Please reference the document that says all Refineries smell the place up and cause your tap water to be flammable.

fdd2blk · Aug 28, 2011

so ron paul will be our next president?

WillyBagseed · Aug 28, 2011

NoDrama said:
Alloidial Title can only be Granted in Either Texas (limited) or Nevada. Anywhere else, you are a tenant.

Correct except for the tenant part, a "fee simple title" can be had in any state with the proper filings. Eminent Domain is all that is left to file against. Taxation is something I do not mind living in a civilized society.

dukeanthony · Aug 28, 2011

Willyßagseed;6176787 said:
Correct except for the tenant part, a "fee simple title" can be had in any state with the proper filings. Eminent Domain is all that is left to file against.

Are you guys real estate agents?

NoDrama · Aug 28, 2011

Fee simple ownership represents absolute ownership of real property but it is limited by the four basic government powers of taxation, eminent domain, police power, and escheat, and it could also be limited by certain encumbrances or a condition in the deed.

Fee is the root word, derived from the Word Fief.

WIKI said:
A fief (alternatively, fee, feoff, fiefdom) or feudum (in Latin), under the system of medieval European feudalism, consisted of heritable lands or revenue-producing property granted by a lord to a vassal who held it in seisin in return for a form of allegiance, usually given by homage and fealty. Not only land but anything of value could be held in fief, such as an office, a right of exploitation (e.g., hunting, fishing) or any other type of revenue, rather than the land it comes from.

NoDrama · Aug 28, 2011

dukeanthony said:
Are you guys real estate agents?

no, but some of us have bought and sold multiple properties. Willy seems better educated than I am on this subject. But, He still doesn't understand that the VAST majority of people who own real estate are really only tenants and really do not OWN said property but are allowed to live there as long as they pay taxes.

WillyBagseed · Aug 28, 2011

You can also do "fee absolute" which is sorta in between fee simple and Alloidial

Not a real estate agent, just a concerned citizen trying to cover my ass as much as possible within the law.

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