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Where my skepticism comes from is how often are large pharmaceutical companies caught paying off doctors and studies to reflect positive narratives. There’s a lot of money tied to everything and humans ethics are easily bought and paid for compliments of greed. What Would be more reassuring was every respiratory and cardiac physician reporting their findings on a publically available site, One that cannot be edited in anyway to remove adverse findings. Tons of doctors who spoke out against vaccines or treatments were relinquished of their duties and not so much as allowed to prescribe vitamin c to a patient. When something like that transpires you have to question things like how legitimate the claims being made are. Either way it’s your choice if you want to mask up and get every booster available, I just personally don’t see a point to it any longer given it’s never going to not exist anymore
Well that’s absolutely ridiculous. Granted the previous discussion was hinged on the cov vax. There’s no reason not to trust in a vax that went through the proper development and clinical trials typically 5-10 year studies, we know they work we know the associated risks etc. only debating with buddy because technically we’re in year two of wide spread clinical testing without know long term affects of what we all took nor the true efficacy given vaxed or not we’re still getting sick and there’s no data that can ever possibly tell you if an individual would have had greater or equal to symptoms to the virus because you’d require a duplicate of yourself to know what’s more beneficial if any difference at all.
People still believe antivaxx bullshit and it spread to covid vaccines killing tens of thousands with disinformation, the arrogant murdering bastards who spread it are criminals. It's the same for measles, chicken pox and a host of other diseases, they are child murders using disinformation and bullshit.
Oh I guess I forgot to mention to my knowledge I haven’t had it once according to the rapid antigen testing but did feel really shitty and winded for a week with every symptom Covid has. That being said I feel I may have had it and the rapid tests are lacking in efficacy. Was mid august last year, so no real flu spread or reason to have pneumonia or bronchitis, diligent with the sanitizers etc but that due in part to most people are gross and 5/10 people seem to walk right out the bathroom without washing their hands, but yeah I’d say I’m about 80% sure it must have been a variant of sorts and the rapid test failed. With that being said in my experience if it was indeed Covid it was one day of shitty coughing, 2 days of being winded doing normal activities and 6 or so total days of typical cold feeling were you can still do everything you normally can but you’d rather take it easy and watch the price is right
Regular non rushed properly tested vaccines should never be questioned because of the stringent guidelines behind them. The cov vax was a rush job pump it into arms and our own govts waived rights to legal actions against pharmaceutical companies if anything went wrong. There are reasons to doubt it’s efficacy given the amount of transmission in fully vaxxed and boosted community members. Declaring their severity is reduced is impossible to actually predict given everyone pre vaccines reacted differently to the virus. It’s a blanket statement to say to all of us who took it you did the right thing and you’re better for it when that can never actually be proven whereas vaccines like IPV we know truly worked because polio virtually disappeared all together. The same can’t be said for Covid, it also cannot be empirically proven you have better protection against the virus without having a clone and subject you both to the virus to see who fairs better
Unwatch then fool, the powers in your fingertips.
Tell us more about how the body shuts itself down if a woman gets raped.
The problem I’m finding with it is I’ve seen only a few study groups of low numbers 30-50 participants willingly exposed to cov and around 1/2 contracted it. There’s no wide range data because most doctors argue it’s ethically unjustifiable because there’s no known long term effects with us only in year two. Even at that point 1/2 of the 18-30 aged healthy participants contracted. Not exactly the 80% efficacy, and with them being subjected to low dose exposure it’s hard to tell how well it performs because ethically you can’t give them high dose because it could lead to their death potentially. So yeah like it’s great to say hey we got something that works, but the answer really was we got something that sorta works maybe and you might not get it as bad or you will really it’s dependent on every individuals immune response overall health and under lying health conditions but so you’re not pissed about being an unpaid lab rat if you caught it without your vax you would been on a ventilator so good job for being in our global experiment we haven’t fully learned all the repercussions of yet. Hopefully it’s none cause I’d rather not face anything thinking I was doing the responsible thing, but only time will tell
Nice deflection from your internet credentials in the science of this vaccine. Negging always works right lol.
You are not a scientist and probably never even went to collage, your opinion is worthless and dangerous. Keep your irrational fear to yourself and stop victimizing the innocent, you don't have a moral or ethical leg to stand on.
And I’m so certain you were part of the cutting edge development team leading the charge on the vax. You’re equally as qualified to discuss it as I am only difference is you believe everything crammed in front of your face while I have enough intellect to question how exactly can they deliver such results when they truly don’t know and cannot properly conduct testing in such a heightened duration of time. Adios retard
Sorry I poked holes in your belief and your to overwhelmed at the thought your leaders could just be lying to you so you don’t get pissy. I mean it makes complete logical sense to tell someone they’re definitely not as bad as they would have been with Covid thanks to their shot. I suppose they’re all mystics capable of viewing multiple timelines right??
That's not skepticism, it is cynicism. Right? Your doubt comes from a belief that people are being underhanded regarding this vaccine. Doctors did not administer the Covid vaccines, at least, not in the US. Canada has a social health system. In both cases, the government buys the vaccine and pays government employees to administer them. Where is the "paying off doctors" in that? The studies that tested the vaccines where rushed in a health emergency. This drew my skepticism. So I waited a few months to let the early adopters help flesh out the data. The data is fine. Not zero risk and not 100% effective. The risk from the vaccine is minuscule compared to the risk to the unvaccinated. Your concerns are not backed up with information. You are simply afraid of what you don't understand.
Pharmachem companies will gladly pay licensed physicians to say what they want them to say because everyone’s supposed to trust doctors. So when other doctors and nurses start losing their jobs cause they say hold up this can’t be accurate, this particular aspect concerns me and our government prevents them from practising medicine for raising their concerns it certainly leads to skepticism. I wouldn’t have gotten it if I were cynical I’m just pointing out you can’t truly tell a person they’d be worse off without the vaccine when the simple fact is they can’t actually no this for sure. There could be no difference in severity of outcome. Now a doctor telling you you’re way better off to have your polio vaccine than not because we’ve actually proven that you don’t get polio with it and we’ve all but eradicated the disease from the world compliments of this vaccine we took years and years to develop and make sure was safe and effective is a completely different story. Every pharma company rushed their ass off to find something that they could call a vaccine and when the first lab rat didn’t get infected they said tell ‘em we’ve done it and let’s make a fortune. Low and behold it barely works, herd immunity is up from natural infection and realistically it’s not even that dangerous a virus. But hey keep screaming science from the mountain tops when there is ultimately no way to accurately say your symptoms will be way worse if your unvaxxed compared to a vaxxed. Varies case by case with no way to accurately log that data, too many variables exist. Something like the polio vax though, we can say safe and effective because regardless of your health diet age etc polio isn’t running rampant.
You say you are Canadian? Are you saying that Pharmachem companies in Canada are paying doctors to write prescriptions? Don't the Canadian govt or the provinces negotiate drug prices and purchase them for distribution? Does what Grampah make sense to one of the more rational Canadians who post here? @Budley Doright ?
