The Junk Drawer

HGCC said:

I'm trying to picture the rural Netherlands as something other the picturesque flower and windmill scenes. I would assume their big ass pig farms are run the same as our big ass pig farms...but my mind can't wrap around it.

How far from the cities are most of them distance wise? It isnt that big of a country. I am kind of imaging the northeast US states where your never more than like 30 miles from a city. I don't get how the divide forms when you are that close. Middle America can be hundreds of miles of nothing in every direction, I can understand viewing something that far away as some sort of "other."

*you actually hit on my real view why the divide exists, some people/companies/groups have a vested interest in convincing rural folks the city dwellers are the reason things are bad, while picking their pockets.

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Look at how they get their information and the influence of hate radio in half tons or long rural trips. All those AM radio stations were bought up years ago, when they weren't profitable by rightwing groups with a political agenda, just like Foxnews. America never had a political party with a propaganda wing licensed by the state to broadcast bullshit before, it started on radio, but spread to TV. The public airwaves and cable are not to be used for such purposes and never were before, it was a slow process of strangulation.

A house divided cannot stand and they divided the house for profit and make money now by catering to their audience, who they created by playing to their existing bigotry. They need an enemy for it to all work and the culture wars expand the appeal beyond the racist core to include more people. So create social division between them city slickers and coastal elites and the real Americans of Rural America, the good God fearing (white) Christians, not really but it's a useful group identity.

So empower the FCC and regulate the living shit out of broadcast media, shift the AM band to digital and take the assholes off the air at a stroke and regulate fox into a box, public airwaves serve the public, not propagandists. Propaganda serves those who create it and news serves the consumer, lies are not the same as the truth and have no rights under law or the constitution, ideas do though, just not bullshit. Don't worry about it, those who consume such shit won't vote for you anyway, so no loss there. Do it right after the election and they won't miss it by the next one and might have a change of attitude if their heads aren't constantly filled with hatred and bullshit. You don't allow hatred and bullshit to be taught to children and many adults are no more sophisticated than children.

HGCC said:

but man, fuck em. Their anger is misplaced and stupid. At some point you quit making excuses for shitty people behaving shittily. Doesn't matter anymore why they are having a temper tantrum.

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That's where I'm heading too. Not like I don't respect the hard labor or the profession, just had enough of their unreasons and the methods they are trying to get their way.

HGCC said:

I'm trying to picture the rural Netherlands as something other the picturesque flower and windmill scenes. I would assume their big ass pig farms are run the same as our big ass pig farms...but my mind can't wrap around it.

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Most areas not in the west looks like this. It's truly a miracle there are no church towers at the horizon in this picture. This was a small farm, probably as usual passed on to a son, as their parents and grandparents did. Difference is grandpa had a few dozen pigs, there's now 15K in this one. Germany builds much larger ones just across the border... but then who owns those... right, some are dutch farmers who wanted to go bigger. The fact they create food doesn't make them holy, it's just another industry.

HGCC said:

How far from the cities are most of them distance wise? It isnt that big of a country. I am kind of imaging the northeast US states where your never more than like 30 miles from a city. I don't get how the divide forms when you are that close. Middle America can be hundreds of miles of nothing in every direction, I can understand viewing something that far away as some sort of "other."

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Most are much closer, as close as a mile, from a "city". But 30 miles and city isn't the same for you as someone in NL. A city meant having been granted city rights like being allowed to build walls to keep the rural folk out so the citizens could chill and relax in bars and brothels. Cities that had city rights then are still considered a city. Even when they have just a few thousand of people. And then still that division is there. Someone from a small city with 10K people will use the phrase cunt farmer to refer to those dumb rural folk just a mile away. But then that same person would be a cunt farmer in the eyes of someone in a bigger city or a province in the west. It's like a pecking order, and works both ways. People in the south, east and north refer to people in the west as 'hollanders' or 'westerlings' who can't be trusted, talk loud, are gay, intellectuals, left, liberal. Netherlands = Holland (most of west coast) + cunt farmer provinces (with exceptions, like Utrecht city, and Nijmegen city).

Instead of comparing the cities and rural areas like in the US it’s more like there’s one big city in the west of NL (including Amsterdam, the Hague, Rotterdam, Utrecht), which we call the Randstad (edge city), and the rest is rural area with more small towns and cities. It’s roughly the same area as Holland in the golden age. Rest was mostly just cunt farmers living on hills in swamps and woods till Holland needed trees to build ships to conquer the world.

Usually the capital of the province is ok but the farther you go from that red/pink area the more conservative and the thicker the dialect, which differs a lot per direction. In the west people speak ABN, which means “generally civilized dutch”. That term alone is very telling about the situation. This divide formed over thousands of years and many wars between very different people so there’s a ton of reasons to consider certain areas and groups as “other”, but city vs rural folk still seems to work well for dividers.

HGCC said:

*you actually hit on my real view why the divide exists, some people/companies/groups have a vested interest in convincing rural folks the city dwellers are the reason things are bad, while picking their pockets.

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The politicians I labeled above do exactly that. Many others have for centuries, like priests. They are all scammers in rather dumb and obvious ways. I don’t think that creates the division but it surely contributes to keeping it wide open. They target dumb folk, which are often the more religious and rural folk.

I’m obviously generalizing a lot but unfortunately it does sum up dutch society quite well. The people who said they’ll vote for the farmer party aren’t necessarily for farmers, just against the west/progressives.

I never knew that Andy passed until just now

Depeche Mode Confirm Founding Member Andy Fletcher’s Cause of Death (msn.com)

Fuck

But he lives on, forever in his music

Very cool, indeed


Let's go & dance for him





Of all their songs, this my favorite (I relate to it )

At least when I was still 28


This was pretty good also (many a line I did to it )

Oh, by the way, this period of time musically was the best as far as I go,1 (977-1984)

It was a good time to listen to a new form of music

Fuck the Beatles

This is what I was listening to/dancing to

(Can't dance to the Beatles personally ) )




This OMD song you probably know (definitely a Desert Island band for me )


and this


Bye

Last thing I must play

Smoke one/sit back/& turn it up/you'll like it

Something small and interment and Aussie for you. Give it a go but you will need volume on the loud side. He must get picks in bulk.

Lucky Luke said:

Something small and interment and Aussie for you. Give it a go but you will need volume on the loud side. He must get picks in bulk.

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Thanks for the contribution, Luckie boy
That guy for some weird reason reminds me of this guy (Wammy bar?)
He's good
This guy is better though




Notice how he plays with his thumb?

Very rare/very cool

Who's going to jail 1st.


I bet this idiot

Jimdamick said:

Thanks for the contribution, Luckie boy
That guy for some weird reason reminds me of this guy (Wammy bar?)
He's good
This guy is better though

Notice how he plays with his thumb?

Very rare/very cool

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Johnny Diesel is really good. Seen him a couple times. Made his name at like 14 years of age.
Jeff beck is very cool. I had an ex girlfriend who played guitar with him and Joe Walsh on stage.

How about some more slide. Another aussie.

Thew's a new Goodwood Hill RECORD. After 23 years Nick Heidfeld's Timed Shootout record in the McLaren MP4/13 has been broken. F1 and IndyCar star Max Chilton's new 39.08 second run in the incredible McMurtry Speirling fan car has knocked over two seconds off that time.

Might have to rent a place east 50miles so I can grow legally again...

Ghislaine Maxwell sentenced to 20 years in Jeffrey Epstein sex abuse case
6,202 views Jun 28, 2022 Reaction outside court after Ghislaine Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in prison on Tuesday and imposed a $750,000 fine for helping the wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein sexually abuse underage girls. Bobbi Sternheim, one of Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyers, said her client would be appealing the 20-year sentence. Maxwell's brother, Kevin, also briefly spoke saying they would be "solidly" behind her during her appeal. Meanwhile, Annie Farmer, one of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers said the sentencing was a "big victory." Her lawyer, Sigrid McCauley also said it was a "towering day" for justice. The sentencing was a culmination of a prosecution that detailed how the power couple flaunted their riches and prominent connections to lure vulnerable girls as young as 14, and then exploit them. Prosecutors said Epstein, who killed himself in 2019 while awaiting trial, sexually abused children hundreds of times over more than a decade, and couldn’t have done so without the help of Maxwell, his longtime companion and onetime girlfriend.

DIY-HP-LED said:

So empower the FCC and regulate the living shit out of broadcast media,

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Rob Roy said:

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Put her in charge of an empowered FCC with anti hate crime laws!

Sad to see we have the same problems with stupid people. But at least it is good to imagine enough of us are stoned that we don't get as riled up.

Anger, suspicion fuel a political wave
It’s like suddenly realizing your country isn’t what you thought it was; that your neighbours aren’t who you thought they were.

Last month, Abacus Data asked 1,500 Canadian adults about their trust in traditional sources of information, and the extent to which they agree with theories and beliefs that continue to circulate on social media.

The results were startling. Forty-four per cent agreed that "much of the information we receive from news organizations is false." Canada has an adult population of about 29.5 million. That means that more than 13 million adults suspect much of the news they see and hear is fake.

More than half of that same group – 52 per cent – agreed that "official government accounts of events can’t be trusted." They don’t believe what their governments are telling them.

Forty-four per cent believe "big events like wars, recessions and the outcomes of elections are controlled by small groups of people working in secret against us." Almost as many feel that "much of our lives are being controlled by plots hatched in secret places."

Thirty-seven per cent (almost 11 million adult Canadians) think "there is a group of people in this country who are trying to replace native born Canadians with immigrants who agree with their political views." One-fifth believe that "the World Economic Forum is a group of global elites with a secretive strategy to impose their ideas on the world." Another 37 per cent think it is possibly true or aren’t sure.

But that’s not all.

Twenty-two per cent believe "secret societies control the world," and another 31 per cent say it’s possible or aren’t sure. Thirteen per cent believe Bill Gates is using microchips to track people and affect human behaviour. Another 21 per cent say it’s possible or aren’t sure.

Nine per cent (2.7 million Canadian adults) believe it is definitely or probably true that "COVID was caused by rollout of 5G wireless technology as electromagnetic frequencies undermined immune systems." An additional 17 per cent feel it is possibly true or aren’t sure.

Eleven per cent (3.25 million adults) think "COVID vaccines include secret chips designed to monitor and control behaviour," while another 14 per cent think it’s possible or aren’t sure.

It gets worse.

Twenty per cent of respondents – that’s almost six million Canadians – believe the "9/11 attack was an inside job." Eighteen per cent believe the royal family killed Princess Diana, and another 35 per cent think it is plausible.

Sixteen per cent believe "the U.S. election was stolen from Donald Trump," while another 29 per cent think it’s possible or aren’t sure. Thirteen per cent believe "climate change is a hoax," and another 16 per cent thinks it’s possible or are unsure.

An astounding 11 per cent (3.2 million Canadian adults!) believe "the moon landing was faked and never happened," while another 22 per cent feel that statement is possibly true or aren’t sure.

The survey also found "belief in these theories is higher among supporters of the People’s Party" and that "those who feel Pierre Poilievre is the Conservative leadership candidate closest to their values and ideas are more likely to believe these theories."

Saw some new people move into the neighborhood. Prius covered in Trump and various right-wing shit, its weird. Betcha it's California conservatives. They also have a rape van with a big ol crying Jesus in the back window.

Let's talk about people wanting more people....

Anyone else like Horror movies?

Like real horror, not that Freddy Kruger/Texas Chain Saw/Saw shit

I just don't like other humans fucking up other humans (zombies are cool though)

I like ghosts/werewolves/vampires/Godzilla/Planet of the Apes, that kind of stuff is more to my taste.

Anyway, I just finished this movie, and it is fucking awesome if your tastes are similar to mine.

If not, watch it anyway, you'll like it.

One note, this movie was written/directed & produced by one guy, Sean Ellis.

I'm going to keep my open for that name, he's very, very good.