The Dems and Obama Saved our Country From Financial Collapse

upnorth2505 said:
Some might say that the Dems are consistantly put in the position to fix the economic crisis caused by the Republicans. Historically, It would seem to be the case.
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Wow, that's just about the most inaccurate statement ever posted on this forum. You couldn't possibly have reality and Progressive fantasy more confused. Such an instantly recognizable, asinine revision of history... but nice try.



"I will say this though, I am getting back more money this year alone then I did for the entirety of the previous administration"
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Yes, you probably are. And you can thank the Bush tax cuts that are still in place for your 2009 tax return and are SOLELY responsible for the lower taxes you are enjoying. The current administration has NOTHING to do with it and will soon be kicking you in the balls, most likely retroactively.
 
MuyLocoNC said:
Yes, you probably are. And you can thank the Bush tax cuts that are still in place for your 2009 tax return and are SOLELY responsible for the lower taxes you are enjoying. The current administration has NOTHING to do with it and will soon be kicking you in the balls, most likely retroactively.
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I'm sorry, did you do my taxes this year? I'm getting more money back this year for reasons other than this. The only retroactive thing they did was not tax the first $2,400 dollars of my unemployment. This is perfect example of someone speaking who does not know what the fuck they are talking about, even in the slightest.
 
upnorth2505 said:
Say what you will about the stimulus bill. And while nobody is saying it was perfect, our economy would be truly f*cked without it.

So while the Republicans were doing their macho thing by voting against the stimulus bill, Obama and the Demies were doing the right thing by preventing our country from going into another depression.

The Republicans were quite prepared to do nothing! If you think things are bad now, how about another 5-10 million out of work? That is almost certainly where we would be if it were not for Obama, the Demies, and the Stimulus.

By the way, this is not just lib talk on my behalf. Virtually ANY economist (conservative or liberal) will tell you that the stimulus spared us from financial collapse.

So, if you were lucky enough to keep your job, thank the Demies, Obama, and the Stimulus. If you were unfortunate like me, lost your job and still are looking, know that things are getting better and you WILL find work.

The Republicans with all their hateful partisanship would have said screw you to the American people, all the while taking care of themselves and their special interest.

God Bless America, God Bless the Democrats, and God bless Obama!!! :peace::clap::hug:8):grin::hump:
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I am going to lose a point so take it now.


Obama has done NOTHING but get us deeper in debt.:wall: Making a panel to try and figure out how to reduce the deficit? Thats like wiping your ass before you go poo....WHAT THE FUCK????:finger:
Republicans arent much better though,:dunce: I am a strict party voter, but all this kindergarden bullshit of stopping healthcare or just stopping anything...fuck me runnnin'..now I am worked up thanks asshole.

Kill social security and the medicare money pit and things will start to get better.:eyesmoke:

You cant get the country back on its feet unless we stop spending and this isnt just hapopening in the US, look at the idiots in the EU. Stupid fucks making their own money backed by what?? At least before Nixon, the worthless fuck,:finger: our dollar was backed by the gold in the Fort Know vault, Nixon and his wisdom stopped that and look what happened.

FUcking A I am fucking frustrated with the idiotic government, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICANS they both can suck my pucker hole.:hump:

I can thoroughly understand how the pilot felt when he flew that plane into the building in Texas,:fire: which sucks for 2 reasons.
1: he killed innocent people and damaged property that wasnt involved in the fight to begin with.

and number 2
:bigjoint:
I am probably being watch by big brother for agreeing with the pilot...so this is for big brother....I CANT FLY, I DONT HAVE A PILOTS LICENSE....ANYWAYS I AM PRETTY BAKED MOST DAYS SO I WILL BE USELESS.:bigjoint:
 
MuyLocoNC said:
Wow, that's just about the most inaccurate statement ever posted on this forum. You couldn't possibly have reality and Progressive fantasy more confused. Such an instantly recognizable, asinine revision of history... but nice try.





Yes, you probably are. And you can thank the Bush tax cuts that are still in place for your 2009 tax return and are SOLELY responsible for the lower taxes you are enjoying. The current administration has NOTHING to do with it and will soon be kicking you in the balls, most likely retroactively.
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MuylocoNC, was that an accident that you ommitted most of my full post? Particulary that part "But I agree that is a gross oversimplification."

That came right after "Some might say that the Dems are consistantly put in the position to fix the economic crisis caused by the Republicans. Historically, It would seem to be the case."

Sheesh. Talk about BLATANT misrepresentation of my view!!! :cuss:
 
jesus of Cannabis said:
Obama has done NOTHING but get us deeper in debt.:wall:
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This.
I love how tossing out our first ever trillion dollar deficit (oh by the way, we will have trillion dollar deficits until 2012 thanks to this economic plan) is being seen as a 'saving grace' to our economy. Sure it might fix the 'now' because we can always just print more money, but this is only going to come back and bite us in the ass in the future... then again, politicians are only concerned with 4/6 year increments....
 
Iron said:
This.
I love how tossing out our first ever trillion dollar deficit (oh by the way, we will have trillion dollar deficits until 2012 thanks to this economic plan) is being seen as a 'saving grace' to our economy. Sure it might fix the 'now' because we can always just print more money, but this is only going to come back and bite us in the ass in the future... then again, politicians are only concerned with 4/6 year increments....
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Let us not forget where most of this deficit came from. Eight years of an unnecessary war in Iraq combined with republicans that were unable to control their spending. Sweetheart contracts, backroom deals, corporate subsidies, tax cuts for the super rich, and irresponsible behavior put us in the position we are now. And now they have the balls to be blaming this stuff on the Dems and Obama?? :finger::finger::finger:

The "new-right" is nothing but a bunch of liers and obstructionists.
 
upnorth2505 said:
"I will say this though, I am getting back more money this year alone then I did for the entirety of the previous administration"

This is no accident. This administration is about typical Americans. Unlike the Repukeicants who are always bent over taking a big one up the ass from special interests and big business. Who really

So, the government confiscated from your paycheck more than you owed, then used your money interest free, and you feel good about that? Seems to me that YOU are the one taking it up the ass. :roll:

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There is a little know documentary that you can find on the web...

Its called I.O.U.S.A - Every American needs to watch this documentary...

What I am posting here is the 30 minute version... This is all the hard facts and evidence...The full version is fucking great....

Please watch....
[youtube]O_TjBNjc9Bo[/youtube]

Laceygirl...:eyesmoke:
 
upnorth2505 said:
Let us not forget where most of this deficit came from. Eight years of an unnecessary war in Iraq combined with republicans that were unable to control their spending. Sweetheart contracts, backroom deals, corporate subsidies, tax cuts for the super rich, and irresponsible behavior put us in the position we are now. And now they have the balls to be blaming this stuff on the Dems and Obama?? :finger::finger::finger:

The "new-right" is nothing but a bunch of liers and obstructionists.
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Bush's largest deficit came towards the end of his 8 years. 454 billion dollars in 2008. While this is a large number, Obama's are in the 3 trillions now (they were above 1 trillion this past year) and they are set to be above that number through 2012 and will continue being higher than any other deficit from the past until 2020. Over one decade, he is set to increase the debt from his deficits by 8 trillion dollars That's how far reaching these policies are.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/politics/n...1-budget-with-383T-in-spending--83253612.html
 
We'll see about that. If Bush only ran a $454 billion dollar tab in 2008 (remember, the crisis seemed to accelerate around October), then a year of crisis for only 1 trillion or so is a bargain. Some decent economists on both sides would say he should have spent more to get us out of this mess. My guess is that like Clinton, he will leave us with a surplus, which is more than you can say for administrations that fund two wars on our kids' tab.

By the way, I am none too fond of either party and feel the economy works almost 100% independently of who is in office. But facts are facts, Bush spent recklessly and Obama will likely not do the same, if he wants to be re-elected. I might wager he does
 
dukeofbaja said:
But facts are facts, Bush spent recklessly and Obama will likely not do the same, if he wants to be re-elected. I might wager he does
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He already has done the same... and about 8x worse, spending-wise. 1 Trillion last year, 3+ trillion this year, and 3+ trillion through 2012 is already set. As I mentioned his 500+ billion deficits will continue through 2020...
I'm not saying Bush > Obama, I'm just pointing out how in my opinion, based on the numbers, Obama is trading the future for the now.
 
Bush didn't do any spending in 08 or in 07, the democrat congress did it. And Obama voted FOR every single spending bill.
 
ummm,,, you speak of the govn. corruption... yeah obama's the the puppet this time around, hes the fuck being told what to do and how to do it by the richest of the rich, i think your confused what side obama and most dem. are on and most rep. too. And you say thank god for the stimulus $ because without it we would be in the next great depression... the reason the stimulus was created was to make sure we get into more debt so we definatly go into the greatest debt we have ever and will ever get into. Just watch while the desperateness of the people when were all begging for a way out of the debt, starvation and no elec... all of a sudden there will be a new currency that will give you 50x the value than the dollar can! and guess what everybodys gonna do? there going to invest into the 1 world currency... game over from there everybody. I would like to imagine that all politicians are working for the people but instead its a handful, we should seek out that few and back them up... Come on think about it, Change we need!... no shit ya think? And everyone bought that product.
 
lacygirl watched the video and i like what i see, your smart and right on with the facts. What i dont get or just cant fathom is when people argue about bush vs obama or they say this guys the real deal this time... WTF? are we still that blinded from whats going on in front of our faces? i mean we as the people of course.
 
abesmitty said:
lacygirl watched the video and i like what i see, your smart and right on with the facts. What i dont get or just cant fathom is when people argue about bush vs obama or they say this guys the real deal this time... WTF? are we still that blinded from whats going on in front of our faces? i mean we as the people of course.
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The full version of that documentary is great... Its goes further into it...

Scary isn't it... And yes arguing about Bush and Obama, its just oranges and apples... Sadly, I don't think it will ever change... Via Revolution ?????
 
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