The Art of The Auto

Oh forgot to mention that last night when i checked on the gals i opened the box to a nice skunk smell.
I noticed the other day that the fatty was starting to smell a little skunkish when i got close to her.
Then last night it slapped me in the face with the odor.
Im seeing some dank in the future

Cleaning your Aeromist should be done every 90 days or less to prevent build-up from damaging the unit...this is simply done by placing the Aeromist in a glass of WHITE VINEGAR and running the unit for 30 seconds to a minute.

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JM.....that ph meter........Piece of Kit or What........

had to laugh picking up the above in your link...cleaning the mister with....WHITE VINEGAR..

Everyone..have a look at the auto bubble bag machine in JM's link......Kit.....

Oh I wish I had money.....I'm gonna have to get a lottery ticket..Again....
never knew anyone could Miss 6 numbers so consistantly.

Getting the heart rate up heightens the blood flow, sending more blood to the areas that are screaming with pain

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Blood takes oxygen to them...that is nerve food....stops them screaming...

Your getting me aren't you m8....

Back later hopefully...dog needs walking...
anyone coming for a nice one down at the beach with me......

Sea fresh ozone and afghan bud....Wonderful Combination....

FullDuplex said:

have not seen it before my friend but i can tell you that this is one of the
fullest CFL grows i have seen. What wattage are you using and how long did she run
You can't post some pics like that here and expect us not to ask.

Keep doing what you are doing man they like it

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Thanx....so I had her under 6x 23w cfls but was getting to bushy 2 quick so I ended up with 12x 23w cfl...6 on top and 6 strategically placed around the sides...and I used a 10 liter pot...with some dirt from around my area mix compost...indoors no tent just the metallic window protector around it...grew nice for first auto and first try at cfls...
ahh yeah and I believe I ran it for about 90 days cause I want around when I wanted to chop and waiting for amber crystals.....

Hey guys just waterd this morning with distilled phd to around 6.5 6.8ish (using droplets) anyways using FFOF this was only the 2nd water they have recieved but tested the run off and it was VERY low 5ish. I was under the impression FFOF was ph balanced out the bag. ive heard of testing first run off drops or waiting a little while to test. Any suggestions? Or should i not be concernd as long as whats going in is ph correctd?? Thanks guys. Btw looking great EVERYONE. I will post some pics of my roadrunner and automatic haze as soon as i find usb for cam.

P.s FullD how long should I bubble for.? 24hrs a week what? ive got a few nice air raiders for my bait as I dont need them now in the winter...

Just finishes catching up, anyway so my girls could prolly be don't in a week but I plan to let them go one more week.
On another note, the grow area stinkssss from these DRs, the only way I can describe the smell is fruity from a far, but they smell just like rotten fruit up close....love it!

FD...HHH is here....somewhere....

just spotted his name on my gallery viewers...
I've tried to mail him this thread in a link..
but his bloody mails are shut off..same as Chynas were...

We'll just have to sit here and hope he finds us....woo hoo.....

40,042 views FullD.....

mossys said:

Full info on Vinegar.


So anyone wanting to volunteer to TEST the theory...would be greatly apprecited.

IF we can get a 30% increase on plant vigor with something as simple as a spoonful of vinegar
we would be Heros......

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I have been using distilled white vinegar to lower the ph in my well water since I started using using it with Tessa. I have not seen any any IL-effects. In fact Tessa is trying to bust out of her coffee can. Her roots are starting to grow through the holes a punched in the bottom of the can.

Do you think I should try to transplant her and wait til my autos are done before inducing flower. (keep in mind that she is not an auto) Or should I just keep her in the can and try to set up a separate chamber for her to flower?

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Hey guys just waterd this morning with distilled phd to around 6.5 6.8ish (using droplets) anyways using FFOF this was only the 2nd water they have recieved but tested the run off and it was VERY low 5ish. I was under the impression FFOF was ph balanced out the bag. ive heard of testing first run off drops and waiting a little while to test. Any suggestions? Or should i not be concernd as long as whats going in is ph correctd?? Thanks guys. Btw looking great EVERYONE. I will post some pics of my roadrunner and automatic haze as soon as i find usb for cam.

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As far as i know FFOF is pH balanced out of the bag. But it depends on the water that you are hitting them with. You said that its 6.5-6.8 ish for soil it needs to be more towards the 5.8-6.3 range for best uptake.

I figure that the reason that your getting low run off numbers is that the soil and the water havent reached their balance. This will happen after a few waterings. You may need to amend your water to reflect the correct numbers for the run off. So say if your soil is 5.8 at run off but feed water is say 6.2 then you need to bring your feed to 7.0 to balance the drop untill things balance. Ive not used bought soil before i always make mine from scratch and its basically around 6.3 something when i am done and never really changes due to the water being at 6.0 the entire time i grow.

P.s FullD how long should I bubble for.? 24hrs a week what? ive got a few nice air raiders for my bait as I dont need them now in the winter...

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As far as the bubbles go i run pumps 24/7 in gallon jugs. I keep the o2 pumping as the colder the water gets the more o2 can be stored. Then when i go to feed i slightly warm it and feed it to not shock the roots and to let the o2 release. As temp rises in the water it begins to disperse the o2 in it.

mossys said:

FD...HHH is here....somewhere....

just spotted his name on my gallery viewers...
I've tried to mail him this thread in a link..
but his bloody mails are shut off..same as Chynas were...

We'll just have to sit here and hope he finds us....woo hoo.....

40,042 views FullD.....

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awesome now we just need to get him in here and well be set
glad to see that there starting to come over here more and more

and i cant believe 40,000+views lets keep it rolling fellas

Mossy, I'm just perplexed at how big the ALF #3 is compaired to its container.
Do you think I'll get by with netting her or do you think I'll have to stake/tie individual branches?
What is the bud structure like?
I'm hitting her with nutes today, I gave her 1 week break because I burnt her tips on lower leaves but she's ready for dinner now.

nealcook420....you have to bring that girl over to give everyone a look...

I Preach big girl..big pot..
it is good to see an expection to a rule every now and then...

(nc has a 3 ft ALF in an 8 inch pot....)

IF she buds like she should..on that frame..I Think I would stake her...
Or..
you could try loosely tying her branches back to the main fame

she is a woofer...fine frame and bud to start..then woof...

you might not be too bad off because she is indoor..
BTW..how are you managing to Light her...?

she looks as if she will have outgrown a cabinet..

I have been using distilled white vinegar to lower the ph in my well water since I started using using it with Tessa. I have not seen any any IL-effects. In fact Tessa is trying to bust out of her coffee can.

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Brilliant HBS...

I'd transplant Tessa....then if she gets too big before the Auto's Finish...
just remove from the grow set-up after she has had 12 hours light..each day
IF you can.

mossys said:

nealcook420....you have to bring that girl over to give everyone a look...

I Preach big girl..big pot..
it is good to see an expection to a rule every now and then...

(nc has a 3 ft ALF in an 8 inch pot....)

IF she buds like she should..on that frame..I Think I would stake her...

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i would have to agree, mine were no where near the size of your NC but the buds were dense and tight and had a lot of weitht. If you bud out like I did you are deff gonna need to stake it.

mossys said:

JM.....that ph meter........Piece of Kit or What........

had to laugh picking up the above in your link...cleaning the mister with....WHITE VINEGAR..

Everyone..have a look at the auto bubble bag machine in JM's link......Kit.....

Oh I wish I had money.....I'm gonna have to get a lottery ticket..Again....
never knew anyone could Miss 6 numbers so consistantly.


Blood takes oxygen to them...that is nerve food....stops them screaming...

Your getting me aren't you m8....

Back later hopefully...dog needs walking...
anyone coming for a nice one down at the beach with me......

Sea fresh ozone and afghan bud....Wonderful Combination....

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I dont know if its a piece of shit... but I think for the money there's better deals... it certainly didn't look all that well made IMO.


I'm totally with you guys on the med effect! and blood flow! FACT!

And I'll def take ya up on the beach n burn ozone gig!

J

- still doing errands and shit..

ttyl

I'm totally with you guys on the med effect! and blood flow! FACT!

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I Know I was self-medicating with cannabis...
it took me a bit longer to appreciate I was self-medicating with nicotine too...

What are the immediate effects of nicotine?
increase in blood pressure
increase in heart rate

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I quit nicotine 14 years ago, picked up weed and happy ever since!

JP

mossys said:

nealcook420....you have to bring that girl over to give everyone a look...

I Preach big girl..big pot..
it is good to see an expection to a rule every now and then...

(nc has a 3 ft ALF in an 8 inch pot....)

IF she buds like she should..on that frame..I Think I would stake her...
Or..
you could try loosely tying her branches back to the main fame

she is a woofer...fine frame and bud to start..then woof...

you might not be too bad off because she is indoor..
BTW..how are you managing to Light her...?

she looks as if she will have outgrown a cabinet..

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I lucked up and was given 4x 1000watt MH,1x 1000watt HPS & 1x 400 watt HPS by a friend that moved into a house and found these hanging in the attic. I already had a 400 watt HPS and a 150watt HPS but I just hooked 1x 1000watt HPS and 1x 1000watt MH up in a 12' x 12' block building.
I gave two of my friends 1 1000watt MH apiece because their always hooking me up with great feminized seeds.

I'll post some pics of her here today after I get back from my growroom, I'm going to plant 2x Dieselryder x Bluestreak f3 that I was givted by a good friend.
I have a couple of nice little little nets made for rose bushes that work great for holding up heavy buds.

Hey guys! Sorry to just jump in. Wanted to show off my first (uninterrupted) grow. Shes a Flash Seed's Jet 47. Started October 25th, I think shes a week or two out from harvest. Thoughts? Should I worry about the yellowing leaves?

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BOMBUDZ said:

Thanx....so I had her under 6x 23w cfls but was getting to bushy 2 quick so I ended up with 12x 23w cfl...

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Hi Bombudz,

Can you explain a little more about this piece? I also had a super busy plant, I used 1 90W Sunshine systems LED UFO and 4x 27W CFL.

It seems to me you are saying that low lumens = bushy plant?

I was expecting mine to stretch, but the nodes were all really close and it was squat and bushy till flowering (then I got some branches going UP).

I was reading about trimming (I didnt do any) and some people say they cut everything off the bottom 1/3 of the plant - check out this pic of my base - if I cut the bottom 1/3 I would have lost 1/2 of my buds easy.

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FullDuplex said:

Oh forgot to mention that last night when i checked on the gals i opened the box to a nice skunk smell.
I noticed the other day that the fatty was starting to smell a little skunkish when i got close to her.
Then last night it slapped me in the face with the odor.
Im seeing some dank in the future

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This makes me happy, since mine were skunky too. I love a skunky/pungent dank bud. I also found the buds to be alot more sticky when breaking them up, than other AF buds...
The one pheno i seen that had fat leaves was the most skunky. It turned colours later in flower. The red one i post pics about all the time had colour in the buds from the first calyx. So you should know what you have sooner than later.

I just read this thread backwards now.. lol 5 new pages from this morning.


Mossy: I agree, i don't think there would be THAT much cal in the solution. Did you adjust your ph before the vinegar? I am also, on very hard water, also high 8's out of the tap. So i deal with very similar things. Could just be the PH adjustment brought everything back into availability. With that high a PH from the tap you get lots of lock outs.

Some info i have , sorry, not trying to nit pick.. I am just working a thought, in public..
Ither way i am going to give it a try on some girls next time i have some going. There is a certain something in seeing with your own eyes.

K can get locked up from too much Ca or ammonium nitrogen, and possibly cold weather.

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Calcium Toxicity
Difficult to distinguish visually. May precipitate with sulfur in solution and cause clouding or residue in tank. Excess calcium may produce deficiencies in magnesium and potassium.

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Does this mean you can test some trim to see if your plant is suffering toxic Cal? Mix crushed trim in a sulfer solution. If you seen cloudy, toxic?! Or do you think we are talking nutrient solution?