The Art of The Auto

no, haven't seen other pics... and thanks for the iteration again... trying to leanr my way through all this but its a little overwhelming at first... I'll get it... learning through experience with you guys... and also through somosis... I'm addicted to FD's thread!

J

nealcook420 said:

Few pics of the ALF#3 bud...
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Sexy little Afghan Little Fucks! Lookin good neall.. must be close to chop-chop soon huh?

John Mondello said:

Sexy little Afghan Little Fucks! Lookin good neall.. must be close to chop-chop soon huh?

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Still about 20-25 days from chop...
The hairs just colored a little from when she dried up for a few hours...

ahhh... well she's looking nice and dense especially with 20-25 to go! damn dude!

John Mondello said:

ahhh... well she's looking nice and dense especially with 20-25 to go! damn dude!

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Thanks brother...
I started another ALF#3 at the same time and one of them is just now starting to bud up while the big one has budded up nicely.
I'm going to let the small one finish but it seems like it'll go for 100 days and only make an Oz or two.haha

Yeah, I definetly have some pretty large variations amongst my 21 main squeezes! some started early, some just really starting to show now, and some still really developing...

@J Purple Jems and Mossys JEMs are the same. I think the genetics are on loan to JD
@BH i checked my settings, they're as they are supposed to be...i sent emails to admin.

John Mondello said:

do you mean purple mazzar? the knock-off version of mossy's PJ's?

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Morning m8's.............
what a bloody day I had yesterday......
7 hours they kept them sitting in the airport..then told them to go home..come back this morning..
went back with them this morning..told them they can't fly 'til tomorrow..
so I have to go back then....hmmmmppphhhhhh....

Anyway..this is what I was gonna show you yesterday....Rtoke..this one is for you..

damm, this thread runs fast, mossy - what are your strains you got growing just to the left of the 12'' autoflower ?? and what strain is the 12'' auto anyways ?

cheers man, merry xmas

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Merry Christmas m8.....
the first ones you looked at are Sibling Deep Chunk crosses..
both the 12 and the 20 inch

Right..Amazon Auto's...

have ALWAYS been there..just nobody wanted them..
everyone wanted 12 inch 8 week finishers.

You could Probably make yourself an Amazon Auto out of standard AF crosses..
think nc's ALF...
But This is the simplest way to pick them up is in the

AF to Long Season cross.

When you do this you will get Auto pheno's UP to around 3ft.

Watch the bottle and the black line in these photos and I will show you the Standard 12-14 inch AF pheno in the selection pots...
Every thing ABOVE the standard AF is your Amazon selection.



1Ltr bottle = Standard AF pheno= 12-14 inches.



Different genetics..same standard pheno...look across from the vinegar bottle..to the other pot and see the height/standard Similarity in Both crosses



ditto...3 different crosses...



ditto 4 crosses.

So...anyone wanting an Amazon/Super Auto just has to select ABOVE the Standard pheno.

They are raging ATM 50-56 cms..just off 2 foot..
And..
you have to remember these are multi potted..
And..
on the patio..in the cold..
so if they were on Good conditions or Large individual pots...
they would be Bigger.

do you mean purple mazzar? the knock-off version of mossy's PJ's?

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AND BTW....After 2 years of being P'd about....I'm reproducing the Original Mossy's JEM...



FullD..think I should have transplanted your Roxi..in the pot on the left..into 40 ltrs...
Fat Bitch.

CFLo02....about 10 pages back...Bliss..

bC...Always Bliss...wish I had scratch and sniff..

zen.peace bro..I have it...in my messages..
but I cannot add it to MY home mails ATM..
coz I am having Virus problems...
so hopefully admin can sort your site mails.

hisser..do you have a PH meter....?

JM....Girls...looking Glorious..
oops...

Your shit's lookin skank! (in a good and stinky way )

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is That how you say it...

haven't had time for the Gulf link yet..
but I will...

nc....

Sexy little Afghan Little Fucks! Lookin good neall.. must be close to chop-chop soon huh? ...

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JM is teaching me new ways to say....OMG...That looks GOOOOOODDDD......

Ither way it's an AF to play with..Not as nice as mossys but interesting

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Maaannn....appreciated.....

Bighill said:

Well i wouldn't go the selfing path.. I feel this is how short stuff deals with so many hermi issues. That's another rant.

If you have a clone of the strain your working into auto, after you work the inital cross into auto. You then cross the line back to the clone you started with. This will instill more genes from the clone into the AF line. In theory one is enough. But as you can see with chynas sourbubble bx4. Bog has back crossed his line back to the orig SB clone 4 times now.
Must be close to the SB clone in seed form by now.

Danzig used a purple male sour bubble Bx3 to instill the SB genes into sour60. But at this point hasn't done a BX. If he used a female clone of the BX line's i bet he'd have alot more SB dom phenos in that sou60..

Ither way it's an AF to play with..Not as nice as mossys but interesting

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just quoting cos it was basically EXACTLY what I was ging to say lol.

Mossy- I think I found a new favorite pain killer, and its name is sour bubble....never felt the degree of absolute numbing from canna before. Add in a pinch of the opioids, and I almost forget about my pain syndrome,,,and damn near everything else too Stoney Stuff....if I didnt grow it, I would swear it was doctored with something.

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Ha ha Chyna..glad you found something Bro...I've been sending out plenty of karma for you.

First question...did you IBL....?.........
I've mailed you some info on the Sour side.

Glad to see you Up and operating..I Was starting to worry.

Bro..did you put Ed Rosenthal's new grow book on your christmas list...
I Think it would be of value to you.

FullD..just thinking how old are the pups now..?
on alsatians it used to be 10-14 days afore they opened their eyes.
karma for them....lots of it.

zen.peace..hate to say this..I have received a mail from you..went to send a reply..and it says you are not accepting mail....
so you need to look for another button to clear it.

mossys said:

AND BTW....After 2 years of being P'd about....I'm reproducing the Original Mossy's JEM...

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YAY!!! Finally the JEMS are coming home

I'd like a reservation on them genetics.

zen

i HAD PM capabilities but can't post...now i can post but can't PM again...Shheeeshh

Mossys K.I.S.S.

POLLENATION IDEAS FOR SMALL GROWS.

where there is no second room...and you don't want a Full pollenation...here are a few ideas

First of all...

You Don't need the Full male.

If you bring a male up to sex....there are a number of option.

ALL of these need to be done in a warm dry place.
Damp/moisture KILLS pollen.

Take him out of the grow room..place him in another warm dry area..
it doesn't even have to be in the light...he will Start flowering..and drop pollen.

Take him out of the grow room and remove a couple of the long-stemmed flower spikes...
Put in a glass of water..he will flower and pollenate same as Any other cut flower.

Take him out of the grow room...cut him down...
make a paper bag out of a couple of pages of newspaper....
pop him in and hang the Bag up...
in a couple of days he will have shed enough pollen in the bag to make a pollenation.

Manual pollenation is best done with a SOFT paint brush.
Dab the paint brush down into the pistils/bud...like insect legs transfering pollen into them.

Pistils will Normally wizen and start to withdraw within 24 hours..
unless you have a cold set up...and the transpiration in slowed.

Thank you mossy. I was just sitting here thinking about plant sex and how to control the horny little buggers. I was also thinking about breeding and was wondering about breeding back to a standard. Lets say I can only get strain A in fem. seeds and want to breed it with something similar that I can get regular seeds of, Strain B. How many generations would I need to get back to something nearly identical to the original A? I am just starting to learn about breeding or rather just starting to take an interest. I needed to learn to use what I have to grow happy plants first, now on to the advanced lessons.

I still have that speedy g male that hasnt seen temps over 0C in about 3 weeks, I will be ready to harvest the first female in 10-14 days but this males (he was the first to show sex) still hasnt even dropped his first pollen, he still looks EXACTLY the same as when I moved him to his cold home weeks ago!! il do a side by side photos of the 2 later. I want to now what he will do if I put him back in the grow cab, but then I REALLY want to see how long he will stay alive in this weather

teflondummy said:

I need to try the trap, that flystrip glue stays on your fingers forever.

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a DIY flystrip out of yellow cardboard and petroleum jelly works too

ChynaRyder said:

Curious if you ever found those Leb genes you mentioned in the spring???

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Greets brother Chyna I'm only ending up with shwag leb genes, the issue is open pollination been going on for at least 10 years, if calculations are right, we'll have to go through 5 to 10 generations at least to end up with something good. what do you think?

mossys said:

hisser..do you have a PH meter....?

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yes I got one, pH of my water varies from 7.5 to 8.20... the soil mix pH is 6.08, and seedling mix pH was like 6.5... I haven't checked the run-off yet...

most of them were doing real bad in the seedling soilmix with the tap water, except ICU#2... the males were left in the seedling mix too and they are doing great now. transplanting is helping a lot, though I still wanna see how they do in flowering...

peace

teflon..on a simple level....
I could pull it in 5 rolls.

This is what I am doing with the DC/ALF#3's.

I am going to pull a Perfect DC..
looks and taste/effect..in minature..AF.

BUT...I am doing it with a girl I know very well...ALF#3...
she is really being used as a Dwarf Rooting Stock...
I want nothing off her Except her AF content.

I Know her traits..so I can use her to implant the AF...breed away from ALF's looks/traits..
and Select for the most DC traits...
with ALF's AF %

Get to know the Long season Donor very well...study the Traits...
then look for one that resembles the Long season..in AF...
and start your rolls from there.