The Art of The Auto

Nice buds you got there B.R.

JP

BR
Damn that looks good hmmm...really likin that ak48....that was the first strain I was going to try but went with easyrider...no complaints....but now...might have to get those...are they from Sagmartha?

I wouldn't trust Saga's Auto's. I was just burnt on some Star Ryders from them.

Thats what I heard before n what made me not buy them...wondering if they ever got it together...nice avatar...the heart should be a lil lower...lol

yeah the ak48 is sagarmatha and the pakistan ryder is world of seeds, i also read alot of people had trouble with them actually being autoflowers... i ordered them anyway and have had no problems with either of them. they have been on 18/6 under a 400 watt hps from seed

Bighill said:

Hey chyna are those BOG's? or sour60?

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They are BOG's latest release...which is the bx4...I had grown the bx1 years back, and liked it then, but absolutely love it now...I was really getting sick of indi bud...was only making tinctures out of all my autos and indi's, and smoking mostly sati's, cause I am sick of smoking giant joints, and feeling it for about 10 minutes or so...my faith in strong indicas has been restored!

I'm thinking Sour60 needs a back cross or 2 to the Sour Bubble...

John Mondello...your video gives me the serious creeps, and I certainly believe it...global warming my ass. You hit the nail on the head tho, dude...glad I am an agronomist! Altho, I am not sure just how to culture food crops in perma frost...

Irie!

BOMBUDZ said:

Thats what I heard before n what made me not buy them...wondering if they ever got it together...nice avatar...the heart should be a lil lower...lol

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Haha, well maybe if you get the AK48 it'll be cool, from what I've read they seem somewhat stable. I took a chance on a fairly new strain, and it didn't work out. Oh well. I have it in 12/12 and at least it was feminized like promised so I should get a decent yield.

b.R. those AK48 lookawesome how tall are they?might be nice to cross them with Pink Bud or some of Mossys' creations (hopefully to get multiple branching trait)

peace

zen

ChynaRyder said:

They are BOG's latest release...which is the bx4...I had grown the bx1 years back, and liked it then, but absolutely love it now...I was really getting sick of indi bud...was only making tinctures out of all my autos and indi's, and smoking mostly sati's, cause I am sick of smoking giant joints, and feeling it for about 10 minutes or so...my faith in strong indicas has been restored!

I'm thinking Sour60 needs a back cross or 2 to the Sour Bubble...

John Mondello...your video gives me the serious creeps, and I certainly believe it...global warming my ass. You hit the nail on the head tho, dude...glad I am an agronomist! Altho, I am not sure just how to culture food crops in perma frost...

Irie!

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Sorry to give you the creeps... and I feel the same... don't worry... you can produce a ton of food under your current lighting system... and i'll be glad to coach you and anyone else along!
J



BR- your buds are lookin killer... keeps me excited for mine as well! thanks for the photo share!

mossys said:

Morning m8's.......
Flying theis morning..should be back later though..


Enter the Official Court Jester...

Get your eyes off the Big Bitches...I seen you...
look at the girl behind the 1ltr vinegar bottle...
That is a Standard 12 inch AF....
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damm, this thread runs fast, mossy - what are your strains you got growing just to the left of the 12'' autoflower ?? and what strain is the 12'' auto anyways ?

cheers man, merry xmas

thanks alot for the props guys...

@zen.peace the ak48 is around 15 inches tall... yeah the buds on it are pretty chunky, the main cola is the size of a coke can and the other branches are pretty big also, im happy with the way it turned out, the pakistan ryder is gettin chunkier everyday as well, i was thinking of chopping in 10 days or so, the ak48 says 8-9 weeks and others say best at 60days, the pakistan ryder they say 64days is good.

@john... i peeped your plants as well and WOW, they are definately lookin good.... keep up the good work. this thread is one of the best ones on here i follow daily.. very good people and informative, thanks guys!!! and i am also putting in another order from attitude next month whenever they start they're new promo and i have been influenced by reading all mossy's.john's and fulld's posts, AND mossy's purple jems are going in the next order for sure, i just cant pass em up....

@john... i also peeped that video you posted... good video, i too am into those kind of things, i recently watched a show on t.v. regarding a theory about the whole gulf oil spill and the gulf coast and the restructuing of the whole gulf stream due to this... i also read alot of disinfo books.. some people always call these things conspiracy theories... not when they are truly supported by facts.... the TRUTH and what the government feeds us are 2 totally different things....

b.R. said:

@john... i also peeped that video you posted... good video, i too am into those kind of things, i recently watched a show on t.v. regarding a theory about the whole gulf oil spill and the gulf coast and the restructuing of the whole gulf stream due to this... i also read alot of disinfo books.. some people always call these things conspiracy theories... not when they are truly supported by facts.... the TRUTH and what the government feeds us are 2 totally different things....

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I agree wholeheartedly, there's a lot of conspiracy bull shit out there... but you can't fool us on the numbers that were spilling outta that thing everyday and now supposedly, "It's all cleaned up" "Not much damage"... Somebody's not stirrin the cool aide!

J

@b.R. i think it's great that you had a good run with the pakistan ryder, tried world of seeds AKR and it didn't AF, it just went bushy on me...but hey live and learn right?

@john i've been trying to get my hands on Mossys JEMs for sometime but can't find them.i'd have to settle for Purple Jems. same genetics but a big difference in price.

be safe always

zen

Zen mate. I think you have to change some settings to do with PM's i get this msg

zen.peace has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

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JM: seedbay.com has some sour60(100%autoflower) right now. Under Mdanzig seeds. The sourbubble is from BOG seeds on seedbay or seedboutique. I haven't seen any SB for sale in a while. When they drop they go fast.

I like dargo's dig on it.

Should call it sour 60 phenos.

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LOL. i am after those SB phenos.. Too bad danzig didn't BX it to the SB once more.. Or got a female to use instead of a male SB... For me i am fine with alot of phenos. I have no trouble looking around a line.

zen.peace said:

@b.R. i think it's great that you had a good run with the pakistan ryder, tried world of seeds AKR and it didn't AF, it just went bushy on me...but hey live and learn right?

@john i've been trying to get my hands on Mossys JEMs for sometime but can't find them.i'd have to settle for Purple Jems. same genetics but a big difference in price.

be safe always

zen

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do you mean purple mazzar? the knock-off version of mossy's PJ's?

@zen.peace... i also read alot of negitive reagrding the world of seeds akr and pakiryder but decided to try it out anyway and took my chances and they paid off, the P.R. is alot bushier then my ak48 and also i have a blue himalaya on day 50 and its alot bushier than both of those... the ak48 and blue himalaya are short and compact. the P.R. stretched to around 23 inches tall and had alot of side braches pop out and up as you can see in the photo, they are producing alot of good sized buds also, so im glad i chose these.

Bighill said:

Zen mate. I think you have to change some settings to do with PM's i get this msg


JM: seedbay.com has some sour60(100%autoflower) right now. Under Mdanzig seeds. The sourbubble is from BOG seeds on seedbay or seedboutique. I haven't seen any SB for sale in a while. When they drop they go fast.

I like dargo's dig on it.


LOL. i am after those SB phenos.. Too bad danzig didn't BX it to the SB once more.. Or got a female to use instead of a male SB... For me i am fine with alot of phenos. I have no trouble looking around a line.

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thanks for the tip... thats something i hadn' thought of neccesarily... but an interesting breeding point... by using the same strain and "selfing" with a "forced hermie", that stabilizes the strain a bit more than crossing with a male that may have more unknown genetics in its line, right? In other words, you'd have less phenotypical variation, right?



also, for others in the thread... you have to reg on that seed site.. so I brought you a pic of sour 60! and may I say, "Myyyyyyy, she's a sexy lil lady!"



gotta transplant some ladies now... be back in a bit

J

thanks for the tip... thats something i hadn' thought of neccesarily... but an interesting breeding point... by using the same strain and "selfing" with a "forced hermie", that stabilizes the strain a bit more than crossing with a male that may have more unknown genetics in its line, right? In other words, you'd have less phenotypical variation, right?

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Well i wouldn't go the selfing path.. I feel this is how short stuff deals with so many hermi issues. That's another rant.

If you have a clone of the strain your working into auto, after you work the inital cross into auto. You then cross the line back to the clone you started with. This will instill more genes from the clone into the AF line. In theory one is enough. But as you can see with chynas sourbubble bx4. Bog has back crossed his line back to the orig SB clone 4 times now.
Must be close to the SB clone in seed form by now.

Danzig used a purple male sour bubble Bx3 to instill the SB genes into sour60. But at this point hasn't done a BX. If he used a female clone of the BX line's i bet he'd have alot more SB dom phenos in that sou60..

Ither way it's an AF to play with..Not as nice as mossys but interesting

Few pics of the ALF#3 bud...