The Art of The Auto

klmmicro

klmmicro

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Here is my latest attempt at an LR#2. Nothing fancy. Just a seedling in a #2 pot. Feeding it veg nutes from day #1, which is not how I normally do things. My current thought is that I have to get this plant to veg as large as possible, as quickly as possible. Seeing that it is going to go into flower based on the length of time it is alive. I cannot veg for as long as I want.

 
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Endorium

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Wonder if you could take a look at my babies. I started them from seed 19 days ago.
I have LST'ed the short one last week and just done the taller one. The shorted one especially look very crowded with foilage. Is this ok? Cant really LST it any more as no where left to pull the branches to.
Feedback and advice would be really appreciated ASAP.
This is my first grow and it seems to be going ok, and want to keep it that way. Loving auto flowering. Doing 24 light at the moment. is this ok?
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sleeperls93

sleeperls93

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Endorium said:
Wonder if you could take a look at my babies. I started them from seed 19 days ago.
I have LST'ed the short one last week and just done the taller one. The shorted one especially look very crowded with foilage. Is this ok? Cant really LST it any more as no where left to pull the branches to.
Feedback and advice would be really appreciated ASAP.
This is my first grow and it seems to be going ok, and want to keep it that way. Loving auto flowering. Doing 24 light at the moment. is this ok?
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I'm no expert, but it looks good so far... is that some bubbleponics? lol..what strains are you running? what is your current ph, ppm, and res temps?
 
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Endorium

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It is bubbleponics :)
Its La diva strain
PH is bang on neutral and temps are 25 degrees. No idea what PPM is as have no tester. Was feeding the lightly but just upped it. Using Sensi grow 2 part veg with 250W CFL
 
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Endorium

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thats slightly above room temperature. Its 25 degress celcius not farenheit

So do people think its ok for it to be this bushy? Just seems very thick with growth. Not sure if it can be to thick? The stems on them are incredibly thick!!
 
mossys

mossys

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Quick update..

My rain water is Fine..mid 6's ph..
BUT...
I dont really get any.
Last season was an anomoly..most of the world got odd weather last year.

Tap water is 8.4 ph..which is right on the end of the safe to drink scale.
Bottled water is 8..which was a shock...
But..
in summer I use 30-50 ltrs per days...so I couldn't afford to run them on bottled anyway.

I have been using the ph down to buffer the water.
AND..
been bubbling.
This gave me less build up..
BUT..
still by 6-8 weeks I could see the damage.

I THINK it is calcium build up.

We are in the highest calcium area in Spain.

I dont think that the vinegar will harm a thing
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I'll run with the vinegar..I don't have options..I want to germ tomorrow..

To get 40 ltrs of water down to ph..mid 6...took around 3/4 qrts of a Pint of white vinegar..
but it is relatively cheap..so we will see how it goes.



Nothing like a live experiment..

I've only done watering ph ATM...
the compo is ph balanced..
But..
measuring the run off is my next step.

I'll let you know.
 
mossys

mossys

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guitarjon..can I ask what may be a stupid question..

I have a gas (propane) boiler in a utility cupboard on the patio...
would it be helpful to stand a couple of pots of plants in the cuboard when the boiler is in use..
or would it be too little co2 to make much difference...?

(outdoor grown plants)
 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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mossys said:
guitarjon..can I ask what may be a stupid question..

I have a gas (propane) boiler in a utility cupboard on the patio...
would it be helpful to stand a couple of pots of plants in the cuboard when the boiler is in use..
or would it be too little co2 to make much difference...?

(outdoor grown plants)
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C02 has to be in controlled anD sealed environment. So no.
 
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Endorium

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My plans I ut pictures up on the previous page are getting very wide and full of growth. I know this is good but they are getting to wide!!
How can I make them grow up? I have LST'ed them and they have responded brilliantly.

I have raised the light up(its about 10 inches form the tops). Its a 250w CFL. Do I need to raise it more?
Also what do people think of the general condition of them and any tips? I know prunning is bad but there is so much growth it is getting in each others way
 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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Endorium said:
My plans I ut pictures up on the previous page are getting very wide and full of growth. I know this is good but they are getting to wide!!
How can I make them grow up? I have LST'ed them and they have responded brilliantly.

I have raised the light up(its about 10 inches form the tops). Its a 250w CFL. Do I need to raise it more?
Also what do people think of the general condition of them and any tips? I know prunning is bad but there is so much growth it is getting in each others way
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Yes raise the light so they stretch upward. Go with a foot and a half away. Also why did you lst them so early??? I usually LST at about day 40 to let the buds develop first. Don't prune until about day 35-40. I ALways cut off the the small bud sites at bottom that don't get much light. Kind of like a semi- lollipopping. All the energy will go up into the top buds that get more light
 
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Endorium

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Was advised to LST early. Guess that was not right :(
These are la diva and should finish in 70 - 90 days from start. Mine are only 20 days old from seed. I will raise the light and hope. Also have a sharksteeth strain in there which I will flower once auto flowering plants have finished.

I cant believe how fast they are growing! they hae not started flowering yet but what a stink ! :)

Thanks for the help Guitarjonhttps://www.rollitup.org/members/guitarjon-42628.html
 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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Endorium said:
Was advised to LST early. Guess that was not right :(
These are la diva and should finish in 70 - 90 days from start. Mine are only 20 days old from seed. I will raise the light and hope. Also have a sharksteeth strain in there which I will flower once auto flowering plants have finished.

I cant believe how fast they are growing! they hae not started flowering yet but what a stink ! :)

Thanks for the help Guitarjonhttps://www.rollitup.org/members/guitarjon-42628.html
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Are you growing autos? 70-90 days is a big range isn't it? Why not just grow regular plants if they take that long. You would save money on electricity.
 
Bighill

Bighill

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This is where is need to interject. The point of this thread is to turn people on to the autos, not tell them to grow some 12/12 strain. Plenty of 12/12 stuff takes 80 days veg before you can get ANY kind of yeild from flower. I've grown plenty of kush that took well over 8 weeks to veg, then another 10 to bud.
Here's how i see it by the time they are flipping their kushes to flower i am near taking down some autos.

I've grown some snowryder that went 10 weeks, other done in 65 days.. The point is the "one size fits all" way of looking at it is very closed minded and your plants WILL suffer.

I've had mossy jem phenos that needed tripple the cal/mag that any normal auto needed. The plant and it's genetics will determin what to feed and when.. How does a LR#1/#2 feeding chart fit in with a ladvia, a mostly sati auto hybrid? I would rather teach people to read their plants, so they have success with any pheno.


Jon what other autos are you running?

What is your soil mix? Do you buy a bag and just put it in? Or are you mixing amendments at set ratios? My only introduction to you is down talking to people, so i am curious where this chip came from.
 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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Bighill said:
This is where is need to interject. The point of this thread is to turn people on to the autos, not tell them to grow some 12/12 strain. Plenty of 12/12 stuff takes 80 days veg before you can get ANY kind of yeild from flower. I've grown plenty of kush that took well over 8 weeks to veg, then another 10 to bud.
Here's how i see it by the time they are flipping their kushes to flower i am near taking down some autos.

I've grown some snowryder that went 10 weeks, other done in 65 days.. The point is the "one size fits all" way of looking at it is very closed minded and your plants WILL suffer.

I've had mossy jem phenos that needed tripple the cal/mag that any normal auto needed. The plant and it's genetics will determin what to feed and when.. How does a LR#1/#2 feeding chart fit in with a ladvia, a mostly sati auto hybrid? I would rather teach people to read their plants, so they have success with any pheno.


Jon what other autos are you running?

What is your soil mix? Do you buy a bag and just put it in? Or are you mixing amendments at set ratios? My only introduction to you is down talking to people, so i am curious where this chip came from.
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I've grown auto ak, auto blueberry and LR2. Lr2 is what i've been growing for last 9 months or so. I like it cause it's the fastest. I use foxfarm soil with foxfarm nutes and molasses. Vegging all depends on how many plants u got and the size of your area. If you veg regular plants for a month but have more of them than it will make up for the loss space. I couldn't imagine vegging for 8 weeks. Just my .02 cents.

How did I down talk you WTF??? Don't worry I won't answer any more of your questions cause you seemed to be offended by my advice. Good luck
 
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Endorium

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They are AUTO's. They say 60 days for La Diva. I said 70 - 90 just in case they take longer. I am very happy with thma and have heard very good reviews about la DIVA AUTO's.
You would never turn me off Auto's. Eventually they will be no need for anything but AUTO's once they have perfected it.

As for my electricity bill..... one 250w CFL is not exactly going to cost me much to run

Here is todays pics :) should I prune becasue as you see there is a lot of growth!!!!
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FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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My rain water is Fine..mid 6's ph..
BUT...
I dont really get any.
Last season was an anomoly..most of the world got odd weather last year.
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Id have to agree because here we didnt get any rain this summer. My veggie garden really suffered because of it. I was able to gather some but not tons. Glad to hear that its mid 6's makes it easy to use no need to really modify.

been bubbling.
This gave me less build up..
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Glad to hear it, but there has to be something else to get that water from damaging them late in the run. Im gonna have to go with calcium build up as well.



I'll run with the vinegar..I don't have options..I want to germ tomorrow..
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Exciting! cant wait to see what your gonna roll with. Ill be on the road AGAIN this week but ill have access to watch and talk not as reclusive as the last trip.


Nothing like a live experiment..

I've only done watering ph ATM...
the compo is ph balanced..
But..
measuring the run off is my next step.

I'll let you know.
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Your right thre is nothing like a live experiment, they have been favorable to me in the past and thats what this thread is all about. Kepp me posted my friend.
 
FullDuplex

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Hey there SICC, glad to see you in here.

Got anything good under that 400w?
 
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