The Art of The Auto

43Hitman said:

Here is a few pics of my AF. I call her Mable cause when she's done I'm sure she'll be able. She is from Buddha Seeds and the strain is White Dwarf. She is at day 29, I hope y'all like what you see. This is my very first AF, and started her in FFOF with no problems with it being to hot for her. I know some people have said that FFOF is too hot for some strains.

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She looks fantastic! Great structure and the balance is pretty good too. Good healthy looking plant. Job well done

One thing i would recommend. If you dont mind me saying so.
I noticed in the first pic you have a slight yellowing to the leaves. Yellowing comes in natural towards the end. But this is something different.
I had the same issue happen on my first auto grow. First i thought it was a lock out but it was not that at all. I had the HPS TOO close.
It can cause the tops to yellow if it is too close. Its almost like your "bleaching" the leaves so to speak. With the light you got going on in there in that tight area
your light foot print is bigger than you think. I was able to back off my 250 10 inches more than what i had it and still produced the same amount, and the yellowing stopped.

Well they are dry to my liking for the Jars tonight. My bud dryer is fantastic

Thought id share what i found as i cut into nugs.



Deep colors here almost black

FullDuplex said:

She looks fantastic! Great structure and the balance is pretty good too. Good healthy looking plant. Job well done

One thing i would recommend. If you dont mind me saying so.
I noticed in the first pic you have a slight yellowing to the leaves. Yellowing comes in natural towards the end. But this is something different.
I had the same issue happen on my first auto grow. First i thought it was a lock out but it was not that at all. I had the HPS TOO close.
It can cause the tops to yellow if it is too close. Its almost like your "bleaching" the leaves so to speak. With the light you got going on in there in that tight area
your light foot print is bigger than you think. I was able to back off my 250 10 inches more than what i had it and still produced the same amount, and the yellowing stopped.

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Thanks for that bit of advice. I'll do just that.

FullDuplex said:

Well they are dry to my liking for the Jars tonight. My bud dryer is fantastic

Thought id share what i found as i cut into nugs.

Deep colors here almost black

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Oh my! That looks tasty my friend. Can't wait to hear the smoke report.

43.. Looks like she'll fill into a nice top bud for ya!

FD.. I want your camera... and your bud lol. Great pics man desktop background worthy

Generally speaking when can I expect to start seeing crystals? Or is that more of a strain specific deal?

43Hitman said:

Oh my! That looks tasty my friend. Can't wait to hear the smoke report.

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Thank you sir and i will be sure to post one. i have been waiting on this smoke since it broke ground, cant wait to taste it

Anonamix said:

FD.. I want your camera... and your bud lol. Great pics man desktop background worthy

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LOL one thing i do mind sharing and thank you.
Best investment (electronically) i have made in a while. But id be glad to share a bud with ya

edit If there is any shot you ever want let me know and ill send you the hi res pics

43Hitman said:

Generally speaking when can I expect to start seeing crystals? Or is that more of a strain specific deal?

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Should be there now, but there small. Real small. You need to get a 10x magnifying scope and youll see everything you need.

If you have a camera with a Macro setting you can use it to. Thats how i do most of my judging on the trich's. Shoot it and then blow it up to look at the gland heads.

My sea of colas

i have a question about photoperiod... I currently have two auto-widows flowering; there in the same closet with 4 other normal photoperiod strains that are vegging, the closet is under a 18/6 light schedule. My plan was to wait until the autos finished before flipping to a 12/12 light cycle, the thing is the others may be ready to switch before the autos are ready... How will switching to 12/12 effect the autos?? I'm using a 1k watt hps btw..

sleeperls93 said:

i have a question about photoperiod... I currently have two auto-widows flowering; there in the same closet with 4 other normal photoperiod strains that are vegging, the closet is under a 18/6 light schedule. My plan was to wait until the autos finished before flipping to a 12/12 light cycle, the thing is the others may be ready to switch before the autos are ready... How will switching to 12/12 effect the autos?? I'm using a 1k watt hps btw..

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Yes it will affect your autos dramatically. Why not wait til there done and let your regular plants veg longer? Do you not have enough room? If not, you can always take your regular plants out and move them into a dark room for the 6 hours. If that's possible for you.

guitarjon said:

Yes it will affect your autos dramatically. Why not wait til there done and let your regular plants veg longer? Do you not have enough room? If not, you can always take your regular plants out and move them into a dark room for the 6 hours. If that's possible for you.

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I could defenately wait, don't want to mess with the momentum they currently have, which is awesome at the moment!

Yea i wouldn't either. The bigger they get the bigger of a yield you'll have

back on track.......

So last night when i was harvesting some of the alpha male pollen i noticed something on him i haven't seen before.
As i looked him over i noticed that some of the top sacs are starting to show a little color!!
Here i am making some F2's in search of a blue or purple male and i get one with the one that i am breeding with.
I have a feeling that the males do a good bit of passing along there genetics rather than the female.
I know that when you want to make a non auto auto you use male pollen form the auto
Im hoping the same rule applied to the color

Fingers crossed.

hey guys, one question for ya im on day 11(check the siggy) and just wanted to know when a good time to start 1/4 strength nutes...it seems from what ive read that the autos arent too hungry for nutes so im wondering if i should even bother with grow nutes or just wait until they start to flower and use the bloom nutes...BTW im usin MG moisture control in case u were wondering what kind of nutes are in the soil

Jarred

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Yup...and I can see the Colour from here.....Yippee m8..

Hope it was worth the wait....

But id be glad to share a bud with ya

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Wey Hey Party @ FullD's Place......and you are all invited.....

I have a feeling that the males do a good bit of passing along there genetics rather than the female.

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Not scientific..only what I have noticed from my own grows..
deliberately changing male/fem donors on the same crosses to See..
Fem donor more likely to dominate f1-f3.

But..If you put it in (to your base cross)..you can get it out..
be interesting to see your results.

BTW..the Bettys I started for the Mixed bud pheno...
4 Red males..
And 4 deep purple fems...
Typical.

My bud dryer is fantastic

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You need to tell us about it.....

Snickelfrits said:

hey guys, one question for ya im on day 11(check the siggy) and just wanted to know when a good time to start 1/4 strength nutes...it seems from what ive read that the autos arent too hungry for nutes so im wondering if i should even bother with grow nutes or just wait until they start to flower and use the bloom nutes...BTW im usin MG moisture control in case u were wondering what kind of nutes are in the soil

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From my experience i start nutes at 1/4 strength at about day 5-7. I have had issues in the past where i didnt start them till 1.5-2weeks and the plants started showing deficiencies as they began the flower mode. This taught me quick that they do need them from time to time. If you are in MG soil go light on the nutes. id say on first dose about 2-2.5 ml of nutes at first. Then after week 2 mine can handel a full dose at 2tbs or 10ml of solution.

FullDuplex said:

From my experience i start nutes at 1/4 strength at about day 5-7. I have had issues in the past where i didnt start them till 1.5-2weeks and the plants started showing deficiencies as they began the flower mode. This taught me quick that they do need them from time to time. If you are in MG soil go light on the nutes. id say on first dose about 2-2.5 ml of nutes at first. Then after week 2 mine can handel a full dose at 2tbs or 10ml of solution.

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so u think i should give em a little veg nutes until i see flowers? or just start bloom now

Yup...and I can see the Colour from here.....Yippee m8..

Hope it was worth the wait....

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Oh was it. I am glad that it finally came through, shame though that i didnt get a chance to IBL them. Figures i would get two females should have planted 3 seeds lol.

Wey Hey Party @ FullD's Place......and you are all invited.....

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Come one come all! Little smoke party would be nice

Not scientific..only what I have noticed from my own grows..
deliberately changing male/fem donors on the same crosses to See..
Fem donor more likely to dominate f1-f3

But..If you put it in (to your base cross)..you can get it out..
be interesting to see your results.

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This is good to hear. If the female dominates f1-f3 then i can hold onto the look and feel of the mother. the mother already contains blues and purps, im hoping with the colored male i can find a meld of the two. Then the f2-f3 should have some nice choices to pick from. Once stable auto ill BX to revive the original mother look and hopefully trich trates. I cant wait to see either

BTW..the Bettys I started for the Mixed bud pheno...
4 Red males..
And 4 deep purple fems...
Typical.

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This means that i will have more white thats usually the pattern you get a bunch of color and then i get whites. Then when you have a break i get the color lol.

You need to tell us about it.....

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For sure and its simple to build. Its not pretty but it works.

Snickelfrits said:

so u think i should give em a little veg nutes until i see flowers? or just start bloom now

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I would deff get some veg nutes in there and then after a week of flower then hit them with bloom nutes

FullDuplex said:

I would deff get some veg nutes in there and then after a week of flower then hit them with bloom nutes

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LMFAO. DO NOT FEED ANY NUTES UNTIL SEX HAS SHOWN AND YOU HAVE TRANSPLANTED INTO BIGGER POT. That's how you stunt your plant. There is enough nutrients in the soil for the first 3 weeks. If your doing hydro, I would bet all the money in the world that you are gonna stunt your plants no matter what you do. That's the difference from getting an ounce a plant to a single 9 gram cola. Again this guy is giving wrong advice.