The Art of The Auto

FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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guitarjon said:
LMFAO. DO NOT FEED ANY NUTES UNTIL SEX HAS SHOWN AND YOU HAVE TRANSPLANTED INTO BIGGER POT. That's how you stunt your plant. There is enough nutrients in the soil for the first 3 weeks. If your doing hydro, I would bet all the money in the world that you are gonna stunt your plants no matter what you do. That's the difference from getting an ounce a plant to a single 9 gram cola. Again this guy is giving wrong advice.
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I really think that you are either blind or just dont read. I explained this to him in my original post. Most of the time you DO NOT need to add nutes. I however ran into an issue where the plants were demanding them at such young age. Unless you were in my grow room at that time i had the deficiencies you have nothing to say. You have not been around my op so there for you have no idea what my experiences are. this is what i am giving info on what i have seen and done. I am not saying that my methods are anywhere near gospel or that i am better than all the growers out there im humble enough to know better, something you may want to look into. And let me say it before you try to post it. yeah Im pissed about what you have said here. We have a good thing here and people were sharing 20 some good pages until you stuck your mouth in here. I also have enough respect for other growers not to "hijack" their threads even if i believe that the info is not what i have experienced.

I have seen one grow from you, if its yours, and less than 200 posts? How do we even know that you have grown these, you have no albums and are making idiotic comments to a group that is more than willing to share info. I don't get simple minded people. If your attitude is a direct reflection of the pot you say you grow you can keep it.

Your post shows me that you are a simple minded troll that is here to make pointless "i'm better than you" comments and tear down another's thread. I don't think that you are reading any of the info, just posting up mindless chatter to flame a thread. i could care less how many pounds i can get. What i do works for ME and seems to work for the others i have instructed, so with that said you can take your opinions of what i am doing and shove them in your ass :)

Oh and by the way, the comment about upto's angel eyes shows your maturity level :)


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Snickelfrits

Snickelfrits

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FullDuplex said:
I really think that you are either blind or just dont read. I explained this to him in my original post. Most of the time you DO NOT need to add nutes. I however ran into an issue where the plants were demanding them at such young age. Unless you were in my grow room at that time i had the deficiencies you have nothing to say. You have not been around my op so there for you have no idea what my experiences are. this is what i am giving info on what i have seen and done. I am not saying that my methods are anywhere near gospel or that i am better than all the growers out there im humble enough to know better, something you may want to look into. And let me say it before you try to post it. yeah Im pissed about what you have said here. We have a good thing here and people were sharing 20 some good pages until you stuck your mouth in here. I also have enough respect for other growers not to "hijack" their threads even if i believe that the info is not what i have experienced.

I have seen one grow from you, if its yours, and less than 200 posts? How do we even know that you have grown these, you have no albums and are making idiotic comments to a group that is more than willing to share info. I don't get simple minded people. If your attitude is a direct reflection of the pot you say you grow you can keep it.

Your post shows me that you are a simple minded troll that is here to make pointless "i'm better than you" comments and tear down another's thread. I don't think that you are reading any of the info, just posting up mindless chatter to flame a thread. i could care less how many pounds i can get. What i do works for ME and seems to work for the others i have instructed, so with that said you can take your opinions of what i am doing and shove them in your ass :)

Oh and by the way, the comment about upto's angel eyes shows your maturity level :)


That is all.....
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GET EM Duplex
 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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FullDuplex said:
I really think that you are either blind or just dont read. I explained this to him in my original post. Most of the time you DO NOT need to add nutes. I however ran into an issue where the plants were demanding them at such young age. Unless you were in my grow room at that time i had the deficiencies you have nothing to say. You have not been around my op so there for you have no idea what my experiences are. this is what i am giving info on what i have seen and done. I am not saying that my methods are anywhere near gospel or that i am better than all the growers out there im humble enough to know better, something you may want to look into. And let me say it before you try to post it. yeah Im pissed about what you have said here. We have a good thing here and people were sharing 20 some good pages until you stuck your mouth in here. I also have enough respect for other growers not to "hijack" their threads even if i believe that the info is not what i have experienced.

I have seen one grow from you, if its yours, and less than 200 posts? How do we even know that you have grown these, you have no albums and are making idiotic comments to a group that is more than willing to share info. I don't get simple minded people. If your attitude is a direct reflection of the pot you say you grow you can keep it.

Your post shows me that you are a simple minded troll that is here to make pointless "i'm better than you" comments and tear down another's thread. I don't think that you are reading any of the info, just posting up mindless chatter to flame a thread. i could care less how many pounds i can get. What i do works for ME and seems to work for the others i have instructed, so with that said you can take your opinions of what i am doing and shove them in your ass :)

Oh and by the way, the comment about upto's angel eyes shows your maturity level :)


That is all.....
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LMFAO. Do you want to see more pics??? Again I'm helping the guy out so he won't ruin his plants. And you only see the point that I'm attacking you. Yes I am taking shots at you but I have told you my reasons for why I'm doing it. I am still giving good info and advice. You wanna know if I am really grown these. Do you really want me to post 100 original current shots of my crop? I want to see ur current crop!!! I can tell you truly aim low in life. I'm trying to help growers here achieve the most they can out of these marvelous plants. You on the other hand are giving bad advice. Don't feed your babies nutes guys. If you have them in 3-4 inch baby pots they will do fine with normal water. Try testing you ph if your seeing problems with your plants before they sex. Adding nutes is usually never the answer with these plants.

About the remark to the angel eyes, I have a retail dealers license and sell cars and I'm a huge BMW enthuiast and ten to only sell bmws. From seeing that he has angel eyes on his 6 series means he probably is an enthuiast as well. If that is his car.
 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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You know what. I'm done giving advice then. Good luck everyone asking these guys for advice. I'll just start flooding you guys with more pics of my ladies
 
Snickelfrits

Snickelfrits

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guitarjon said:
LMFAO. Do you want to see more pics??? Again I'm helping the guy out so he won't ruin his plants. And you only see the point that I'm attacking you. Yes I am taking shots at you but I have told you my reasons for why I'm doing it. I am still giving good info and advice. You wanna know if I am really grown these. Do you really want me to post 100 original current shots of my crop? I want to see ur current crop!!! I can tell you truly aim low in life. I'm trying to help growers here achieve the most they can out of these marvelous plants. You on the other hand are giving bad advice. Don't feed your babies nutes guys. If you have them in 3-4 inch baby pots they will do fine with normal water. Try testing you ph if your seeing problems with your plants before they sex. Adding nutes is usually never the answer with these plants.

About the remark to the angel eyes, I have a retail dealers license and sell cars and I'm a huge BMW enthuiast and ten to only sell bmws. From seeing that he has angel eyes on his 6 series means he probably is an enthuiast as well. If that is his car.
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dude u need to go away u are ruinin the friendly vibe here and obviously didnt even take the time to take a look at the pics in my journal
cuz theyre already in 3.3gallon pots and i was simply asking for a few opinions on when to add 1/4 strength nutes no problems w/ the plants and definitely not some douchy troll killin my high
 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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Snickelfrits said:
dude u need to go away u are ruinin the friendly vibe here and obviously didnt even take the time to take a look at the pics in my journal
cuz theyre already in 3.3gallon pots and i was simply asking for a few opinions on when to add 1/4 strength nutes no problems w/ the plants and definitely not some douchy troll killin my high
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Lol. Go ahead and feed them those nutes. See what happens for yourself. If you have them in 3.3 gallon pots you dont' need to feed them anything til like day 30. Unless you're using garbage soil. Are you using foxfarm or Roots organic?
 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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FullDuplex said:
ahh i see got ya.
Never had my hands on the originals
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Yea i know you haven't here are some new pics for you. Just took them today. Getting ready to harvest about 28 of them of the left side. You can't really see the how big some of the side branches are but I think you get the idea. You see those younger ones. Didn't give them any nutes til about day 30 and that's what they look like.

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U C It :hump:
 
sleeperls93

sleeperls93

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guitarjon said:
Yea i know you haven't here are some new pics for you. Just took them today. Getting ready to harvest about 28 of them of the left side. You can't really see the how big some of the side branches are but I think you get the idea. You see those younger ones. Didn't give them any nutes til about day 30 and that's what they look like.

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U C It :hump:
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That is a nice set-up you have there! Are you also running co2?
 
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Anonamix

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FullDuplex said:
back on track.......

So last night when i was harvesting some of the alpha male pollen i noticed something on him i haven't seen before.
As i looked him over i noticed that some of the top sacs are starting to show a little color!!
Here i am making some F2's in search of a blue or purple male and i get one with the one that i am breeding with.
I have a feeling that the males do a good bit of passing along there genetics rather than the female.
I know that when you want to make a non auto auto you use male pollen form the auto
Im hoping the same rule applied to the color :)

Fingers crossed.
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Sounds like a plan FD! heres the male thats helped me get my current stock with high purple/white ratio..

 
guitarjon

guitarjon

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Yes only autos. Last me 5 days only. I got two bottles so I get one filled when one runs out. Found a cheap place to replace them for only $15. That's really cheap if you've ever ran co2 with a bottle and regulator. I'm not a big fan of having a propane tank in my grow room lol.
 
mossys

mossys

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FullD..got myself another piece of kit while I was in the UK..
A heart monitor watch..
you know the kind that athletes wear while they are exercising..
(boy..was that watch disappointed to see me...:-P..)
You know I am thinking that the med effect is working by simple dilation..

weelll..I'll be able to check now won't I..

I'm thinking when I take the dog for her beach walk in the morning
I can use it as a bud test-track...
check what they are doing to the heart rate..see if I can Prove the effect...:leaf:

And about my leaf build up problem.
I THINK it is high calcium..



when kettle furrs up with it...
we put white vinegar in dissolve it..
vinegar also buffers the ph...
so I'm thinking that it might just sort both my problems..
(I've tested it..brought the water ph down to under 6.8..)

Do you think it is safe to give it a test..or will it kill everything...?

Have a great weekend m8...:bigjoint:
 
FullDuplex

FullDuplex

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FullD..got myself another piece of kit while I was in the UK..
A heart monitor watch..
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Interesting, this will provide some valuable information on the med side. remember to do a "control" run before a bud run. That way you have a base line to compare the different strains too.

I think this will also assist in the way you select the tric formations for breeding. I recall us touching on this before and i saw a little bit about it in BH's thread of bud porn. You will be able to do a run with a certain strain, check the effects, come back and reference the trich structure and note it. Then i feel you'll be able to see what exact trich style/form helps you the best. Allowing you to choose your brood stock down to the Trich not just visual pheno any longer.

And about my leaf build up problem.
I THINK it is high calcium..
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If its from the tap i would have to agree. Its "hard" water for lack of a better term. The acid in the vinegar breaks it down thats why you get the "soothing" effect when the water is frothing up and you add it to the water.

If the vinegar is bringing the water to 6.8 thats fantastic. If i remember correctly you don't monitor the pH like i do, before every watering and i also test the run off.
I think you'll notice a difference in the look of the plants you test this on. I dont think that the vinegar will harm a thing. If the hard solvent i use to bring my ph to balance doesn't hurt mine i cant see that hurting a thing. Other than the smell :-P

One thing i have been thinking about is your rain water. You talk about beaches so i know that you must be around salt water. I remember talking to you about that back on the other side, i think the reason that you see build up when using rain water is the salt content of the rain water. I bet the slat content is 5-10 times higher than areas not around a body of salt water. This may also cause lockout that could be leading to the problems. Just a thought



Have a great weekend m8...:bigjoint:
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you too my friend :bigjoint:
 
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