TGA Subcool Vortex Questions!!!

I've grown all my TGA gear in coco and usually under a fair amount of stress(ie; high heat in the summers) and out of dozens of plants only one Querkle popped some late nanners that resulted in few immature seeds. That's it. A lot of these reports of hermies with TGA have to be grower error. By all means not all of them, but definitely some.

OGEvilgenius said:

I can see a hydro setup going south causing problems, but just saying they're more stress prone isn't true. If the guy doing hydro is paying attention his plants are going to suffer minimal stresses, less than dirt growers in fact as transplanting without stress is a lot easier in most hydro setups.

I also fail to see the mechanism where a plant in a pot too small would herm but a plant in a larger pot would not.

I can see things going south in Hydro, but I think you gotta give those hydro guys the benefit of the doubt as far as their skills go until proven otherwise.

I ain't hating on TGA. I have some Vortex that are going in the dirt in the not too distant future. But I expect to have to hunt a bit for 'the one'.

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You can't just call bullshit then qualify it with an "if" statement, I have run hydro for years. They have little quirks all the time, not all of which are caught. To negate the fact that it is a more complicated system and requires constant diligence and you can't further assume that hydro growers are always in complete command. That is just simply not true, and with all due respect transplanting doesn't apply to hydro. I don't mean to be all up in your guts but I stand by the statement that there is a higher chance of error in hydro and that is not just an unfounded opinion.

One last thing, being root bound is a form of stress, no matter how you fail to see.

Sorry man, your dropping some inconsistencies with facts here.

Most hydro guys I know are pretty well dialed in (at least to the point where they aren't killing shit blatantly, maybe not the point where the plant is at it's sweet spot, but any strain that goes hermie without being at it's sweet spot is definitely not an easy one to grow and is going to get tossed from most people's gardens quickly). And I've never attributed root stress to herms, although perhaps. I mostly always attributed to root bound = slower growth. I guess it would be stressful though. Another variable to consider.

OGEvilgenius said:

Most hydro guys I know are pretty well dialed in (at least to the point where they aren't killing shit blatantly, maybe not the point where the plant is at it's sweet spot, but any strain that goes hermie without being at it's sweet spot is definitely not an easy one to grow and is going to get tossed from most people's gardens quickly). And I've never attributed root stress to herms, although perhaps. I mostly always attributed to root bound = slower growth. I guess it would be stressful though. Another variable to consider.

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It makes you start to wonder huh!?!?

stable, shmable! TGA has some elite clones and hand selected crosses that he uses that are high quality! the opposite of stabilized, BTW , is hybrid vigor. i'd rather smoke that than a watered down bottlenecked strain. so far, the 5 pack of jack's cleaner 2 i bought is THE best named strain i've ever smoked back to real cali-grown columbian gold (misnamed thai for brand recognition, but easy to find out with the internet & verification from a cali resident that was smoking the same back in the day).

i will feel much more confident about trying another TGA strain in the future as the only bud i've blazed of his so far is right outta the ballpark awesome. maybe sannies' jack f7 is even better. i'm ALWAYS looking for the best indoor highs. anyone that'd call TGA schwag is likely a hater with an agenda.

if you want a stabilized strain, back cross a hybrid and then you can even select for the phenos you like best. a strain with hybrid vigor gets a free boost in potency just like jessica alba is hot.

My Vortex is coming along strong! Thanks Subcool for an awesome strain!

Nice Vortex, jr215! Looks a lot like mine. Hold onto her if you can.

jaloux : Feu:

My second grow ever... The first one was bag seed with some home depot soil some hydro nutes and crappy equipment ( ph drops, sink water, light leaks), not to mention I had to chop it early cause it was " discovered". Now the vortex..... Roots organic soil, a ph pen and RO water ( along with some other supplements ) and it's looking incredible. I'm totally impressed by vortex and I haven't even smoked it. I'm an inexperienced grower but a very experienced smoker, I'll do a harvest report when it's done.

Dont have many pics but here they are at about 4.5 weeks I believe


Nvm looks like I don't know how to upload pics. Ill try again with a computer

Man!!! I had such high hopes when I found this thread!

Having just popped some Vortex seeds, a was really looking forward to reading 9 pages of discussion about the strain! Instead I got one page of discussion and 8 pages of bickering (and a little bit of dick measuring)... Awesome.

Welcome to rollitup!

i just started some querkle so far so good.

homebrewer said:

That ring light is pretty flattering, eh .

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Almost as flattering as photoshop! Saw a Mickey Kush pic in Weed World 107 obviously badly photoshopped.

OGEvilgenius said:

Almost as flattering as photoshop! Saw a Mickey Kush pic in Weed World 107 obviously badly photoshopped.

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TRay grows some dank though! Got a link to that Weed World picture?

homebrewer said:

TRay grows some dank though! Got a link to that Weed World picture?

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No, I have the issue. On the first page of the strain report the fan leaf on the mid right mysteriously has bud overlapping it and then all of a sudden the leaf continues on... issue 107. I don't have a picture currently and it's sort of a PITA to take one and I don't care that much, but it is somewhat funny.

I just don't get people sometimes... Does it REALLY make them feel better getting praise for something they know they faked?

You don't understand people?

What about all the photo shopped sluts out there? they do it for cash bra, when you can fool people into thinking something is better than it is I think that is the key here.

Not everyone can be fooled, but if you haven't noticed America is the land of the sheeple.

People in general lack skepticism. Wishing things were true. How many times do we see posters quoting yields from seedbanks which we know are exaggerated?

Shit just look up thread at the people wishing for something to be true, which doesn't even exist! They must be convincing themselves it's true, but to not have doubts borders on the line of gullibility.

TonightYou said:

People in general lack skepticism.

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No longer. Herijuana is a great teacher.

Is it really that bad? you are not the only one to say so.