NietzscheKeen
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Don't forget the preserved Lemons!
It's summer time, I need to fire up my tandoor.
It's summer time, I need to fire up my tandoor.
Testing LED pontoon+induction system==Old school organic grow for TESLA:)
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THE KONASSURE
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Yo have a dam tandoor ? and here I am in england only guy in my area with a smoker and 3 kinds of bbq grill Yet theres a Russia with and Tandoor and curry eating yanks who like coconut milk ? Man sometimes I forget that the 420 gang always ends up being hippy`s even on the hi tech threads we still end up talking about food Look I don`t know what NASA said all I know is I remember reading a few promising stories about how leds are being used to make food using less water. Dam it PSU I logged on to see if you`d posted pics of frosty nugs yet lol Hey that`s a dam cool name for a strain huh ? Frosty Nugs ?
PSUAGRO.
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Ha, love me some green..........I'm not on Merion's payroll
wanted to get some shot's for you but that's a no-no on the course 
fucking ridiculous. You should see the pros out there, got all kinds of cops around them like they are protecting the president,lol. We got two days of heavy rain coming up, drainage is GOOD, but my life will still suck
Oh yeah.............Coconut milk is for making curry you heathens
Now you guys are making me hungry.........gonna rock that shit^^
Frosty?no.............toasty, yes.........trying to keep them alive at-this-point
77 days since germination under the Indagro par 100/led pontoon system (117watts): sensi seeds NL bitches
Yikes, had no idea how bad they got burned two weeks ago, but as soon as I raised the induction bulb at least 10 inches away the frying stopped. The outer got hit way less but also show some slight burning. Temps have been anywhere from 84-104f, still applying the jobes fish meal/kelp/beni-bac, which probably saved them from complete death with those two days of 112+f directly under the bulb(within 4 inches). I will not be running a sealed room after this run, the party cup starts in Aug and need a cheap cooling solution that still keeps it stealthy friends==== low cfm exhaust/passive intake drawing in ac-air from the neighboring room(TD silent or small dayton blower). In the winter I probably wont use it, but its good insurance at this point. The girls still don't smell at all!
47th day of "flower' 17th day of 12/12 and they have 20days till chop..........my temp/rh meter got knocked out during a recent storm and is beeping again! so i just keep it off until I can find the fucking manual for it AGAIN! lolbe safe and happy growing RIU
NietzscheKeen
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Sorta. I made it myself. It was easy. If you have some area to put one like in a yard or something, you can make one too. No, I'm not Russian... sorry. I'm American.
I just wrote that in my location because I thought it was fun and it's a beautiful area. I made my tandoor out of a 55gal drum, a clay pot, bricks, and dirt. I found all of the items laying around different places except for the pot. I had to but it, but it wasn't too expensive.
chazbolin
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Hiya P! These pro's have gotten way too full of themselves. It's ridiculous how far removed they are from everyday life. On the bright side though I didn't see anything about 'no weed' on that list of prohibited items.
From your images I'd say at some point the diodes got too close and burned those fan leaves and with temps hitting 104f they have to be stressing. Are you running the lights at night where the ambient temps are presumably lower? Also just a suggestion; if the 730's are coming on at lights out why not run a 14/10 to see how they finish out? I'm betting you'll fatten up whats there and fill in those internodes a bit better.
From your images I'd say at some point the diodes got too close and burned those fan leaves and with temps hitting 104f they have to be stressing. Are you running the lights at night where the ambient temps are presumably lower? Also just a suggestion; if the 730's are coming on at lights out why not run a 14/10 to see how they finish out? I'm betting you'll fatten up whats there and fill in those internodes a bit better.
PSUAGRO.
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Yep they are running at night already, I overestimated my max wattage for this sealed room by easily 50 watts(thought 130w, more like 80w) also I kept the panel distance too close for the summer, ran it like I did in the winter, OOPS..lol i knew i was fucked in May
. Yeah the burning looks bad, BUT I had PM issues so the heavy center defoliation plus Neem applications where necessary! I knew that the neem would burn the leaves as well^^ as you can see, definitely effective on PM though. Not sure the 660nm being the culprit, Hans has them as well and basically stuck the panel on top of the girls on my first run with it and NO burning ..........IDK. It's all HEAT related IMO and that will be resolved after this run for good. Changing the light schedule is something I might fuck with, nothing too lose at this point.......oh and i'm cutting off even more of the dead leaves because my RH still is high. I'm amazed these bitches aren't completely toasted with extreme heat levels they went through.Good news is that we had favorable weather today at work, but tomorrow chances of Heavy thunderstorms is around 65%..........God dislikes golf too
be safe brother
THE KONASSURE
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Ice packs man a few ice packs near a fan can make a huge difference during the peak hot times
Lucky for me I just have some ac vented into my root zones
Lucky for me I just have some ac vented into my root zones
FranJan
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Bro what's up??? Golf! Isn't golf something they put on TV for people who can't afford lithium . Sounds like a cool gig though 
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Anyway I've been working on a little something that might help us with our grow areas and heat but I haven't talked about it with anyone. Now you know I love my calcium carbonate to spray on my plants, especially when it's hot since CaCO3 + H2O = CO2. Now I'm always looking for a cheap supply and was in a petstore and found they make a calcium supplement for lizards, it's a man made sand that's almost all CaCO3 with vitamins thrown in. So I bought a bag of it cause it's dirt cheap and started to fuck around with it. Now you got to get it powdery to make it spray-able like Cal-Carb. BTW, blenders are no good. A pistil and mortar are good since you don't need more than a tablespoon per gallon, but still a bit time consuming and, no, I'm not sacrificing my food processor to see how well that works. So I tried powderizing it with my blender a few times and one time I used some water. It worked great breaking up the sand, but then I thought "Well, when I make it this way, it's probably just releasing all the CO2 into the air.........
. So now I'm wondering, does CaCO3 work because when you add H20 it releases CO2 into whatever medium it's in or is it bound to some other molecule and needs to physically touch the plant for the plant to absorb it? Because if it's being released on contact with water, which I'm pretty sure it is, why can't we take this stuff (LINKY) and put it in bowl of water with a bubbler in it and let the agitation release CO2 into the air from the sand disintegrating? You think something like that might work in order to make our areas more hospitable in the summer? Or have I been smoking way too much Black Widow without you ?
I got nothing flowering for the first time in nearly 2 years and it's because of the summer heat. Everything comes out airy and hairy during the summer, and I'm not burning through cash to run an AC. I really would love this to work because a tank is a no go. Fuck bags, candles, dogs running on a treadmill, or whatever. I usually don't buy into the quick CO2 game but something like this could work I bet. What do you think good sir?
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. Sounds like a cool gig though .Anyway I've been working on a little something that might help us with our grow areas and heat but I haven't talked about it with anyone. Now you know I love my calcium carbonate to spray on my plants, especially when it's hot since CaCO3 + H2O = CO2. Now I'm always looking for a cheap supply and was in a petstore and found they make a calcium supplement for lizards, it's a man made sand that's almost all CaCO3 with vitamins thrown in. So I bought a bag of it cause it's dirt cheap and started to fuck around with it. Now you got to get it powdery to make it spray-able like Cal-Carb. BTW, blenders are no good. A pistil and mortar are good since you don't need more than a tablespoon per gallon, but still a bit time consuming and, no, I'm not sacrificing my food processor to see how well that works
. So I tried powderizing it with my blender a few times and one time I used some water. It worked great breaking up the sand, but then I thought "Well, when I make it this way, it's probably just releasing all the CO2 into the air.......... So now I'm wondering, does CaCO3 work because when you add H20 it releases CO2 into whatever medium it's in or is it bound to some other molecule and needs to physically touch the plant for the plant to absorb it? Because if it's being released on contact with water, which I'm pretty sure it is, why can't we take this stuff (LINKY) and put it in bowl of water with a bubbler in it and let the agitation release CO2 into the air from the sand disintegrating? You think something like that might work in order to make our areas more hospitable in the summer? Or have I been smoking way too much Black Widow without you ?I got nothing flowering for the first time in nearly 2 years and it's because of the summer heat. Everything comes out airy and hairy during the summer, and I'm not burning through cash to run an AC. I really would love this to work because a tank is a no go. Fuck bags, candles, dogs running on a treadmill, or whatever. I usually don't buy into the quick CO2 game but something like this could work I bet. What do you think good sir?
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djwimbo
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Now you got me thinking about it...
Obviously we need CO2, and plants love Ca + Mg
So far, I like what I see... now to research more.
Obviously we need CO2, and plants love Ca + Mg
- At atmospheric levels of ambient CO[SUB]2[/SUB] the table indicates the solution will be slightly alkaline with a maximum CaCO[SUB]3[/SUB] solubility of 47 mg/L.
- As ambient CO[SUB]2[/SUB] partial pressure is reduced below atmospheric levels, the solution becomes more and more alkaline. At extremely low
, dissolved CO[SUB]2[/SUB], bicarbonate ion, and carbonate ion largely evaporate from the solution, leaving a highly alkaline solution of calcium hydroxide, which is more soluble than CaCO[SUB]3[/SUB]. Note that for
= 10[SUP]−12[/SUP] atm, the [Ca[SUP]2+[/SUP]][OH[SUP]−[/SUP]][SUP]2[/SUP] product is still below the solubility product of Ca(OH)[SUB]2[/SUB] (8×10[SUP]−6[/SUP]). For still lower CO[SUB]2[/SUB] pressure, Ca(OH)[SUB]2[/SUB] precipitation will occur before CaCO[SUB]3[/SUB] precipitation.
The effect of the latter is especially evident in day-to-day life of people who have hard water. Water in aquifers underground can be exposed to levels of CO[SUB]2[/SUB] much higher than atmospheric. As such water percolates through calcium carbonate rock, the CaCO[SUB]3[/SUB] dissolves according to the second trend. When that same water then emerges from the tap, in time it comes into equilibrium with CO[SUB]2[/SUB] levels in the air by outgassing its excess CO[SUB]2[/SUB]. The calcium carbonate becomes less soluble as a result and the excess precipitates as lime scale. This same process is responsible for the formation of stalactites and stalagmites in limestone caves.
- As ambient CO[SUB]2[/SUB] partial pressure increases to levels above atmospheric, pH drops, and much of the carbonate ion is converted to bicarbonate ion, which results in higher solubility of Ca[SUP]2+[/SUP].
That bold part is what we're after. |
PetFlora
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CaCO3 + H2O = CO2 at what temperature? Maybe a drip set up to slow release? Def keep me posted!Bro what's up??? Golf! Isn't golf something they put on TV for people who can't afford lithium
Anyway I've been working on a little something that might help us with our grow areas and heat but I haven't talked about it with anyone. Now you know I love my calcium carbonate to spray on my plants, especially when it's hot since CaCO3 + H2O = CO2. Now I'm always looking for a cheap supply and was in a petstore and found they make a calcium supplement for lizards, it's a man made sand that's almost all CaCO3 with vitamins thrown in. So I bought a bag of it cause it's dirt cheap and started to fuck around with it. Now you got to get it powdery to make it spray-able like Cal-Carb. BTW, blenders are no good. A pistil and mortar are good since you don't need more than a tablespoon per gallon, but still a bit time consuming and, no, I'm not sacrificing my food processor to see how well that works
I got nothing flowering for the first time in nearly 2 years and it's because of the summer heat. Everything comes out airy and hairy during the summer, and I'm not burning through cash to run an AC. I really would love this to work because a tank is a no go. Fuck bags, candles, dogs running on a treadmill, or whatever. I usually don't buy into the quick CO2 game but something like this could work I bet. What do you think good sir?
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THE KONASSURE
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Just brew wine or beer and vent your exhaust into a bubbler in your grow tent if your that worried, I like to think the best way to make co2 is to have sex in the room your grow is in because well it has to benefit your plants plus also your having sex
If any growers with a hot ass chick or are a hot ass chick need some help making co2 give me a call lol
If any growers with a hot ass chick or are a hot ass chick need some help making co2 give me a call lol
FranJan
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Here's what I'm trying to replace:
$35.00 for 6 ounces! BASTARDS!
It's supposedly "a proprietary CaCO3", I think it's closer to food grade CaCO3 not limestone powder. They makes some bold claims but bottom line is it works. I've sprayed it on my plants and looked the next day and am just amazed by the growth. You can't use it all the time, but even once or twice during veg and early flowering gets great results.
$35.00 for 6 ounces! BASTARDS!
It's supposedly "a proprietary CaCO3", I think it's closer to food grade CaCO3 not limestone powder. They makes some bold claims but bottom line is it works. I've sprayed it on my plants and looked the next day and am just amazed by the growth. You can't use it all the time, but even once or twice during veg and early flowering gets great results.
What is CalCarb?
CalCarb is a natural plant performance enhancement. This unique phenomena increases calcium availability to plants through the foliage, but more importantly, the CO2 levels directly outside and inside the stomata can rise three fold, optimizing photosynthesis efficiency and cell wall structure.
CalCarb:
How does CalCarb Work?
CalCarb is a proprietary calcium carbonate (CaCo3) which infiltrates plant leaves through the stomata. Once inside the intercellular space, it is converted into CO2 and CaO. CO2 increases photosynthesis levels, while the calcium strengthens the cell walls.
What Benefits will CalCarb Provide?
In a hydroponic setting, increasing water retention and drought resistance is ideal. You never know when your irrigation system may fail and leave your plants without moisture. CalCarb protects your plants from drought while providing an easy, economic (Uh-WHAT?), and eco-friendly alternative to tanks and burners, one that increases photosynthesis while leaving plants’ natural atmospheric state unaltered. Tanks and burners create a false environment, force feeding plants with exasperating and often harmful levels of CO2 which is later released into the atmosphere as carbon/greenhouse gases, reaking havoc upon the environment.
The Ca (calcium) strengthens the cell wall, making it more durable in harsh conditions, especially drought. Also, because plants utilizing CalCarb recieve carbon dioxide via the intercellular space, the stomata of the leaves no longer have to remain open trying to fixate it atmospherically. The stomata can now remain closed, significantly lowering transpiration and effectively increasing plant water retention by up to 75%! This means that the plant will survive with less water–up to 75% less water–which is ideal for saving money on irrigation during the hot spring and summer months.
The CO2 content of normal air is around 0.03 vol%, which isn’t the optimal level for photosynthesis. In a situation where there is sufficient nutrients and water, and abiotic factors such as temperature are favorable, the maximum level of CO2 for optimum photosynthesis rate is 0.1 vol%. CalCarb is able to provide the carbon dioxide needed to achieve optimum photosynthesis performance – effectively maximizing your plants growing potential
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Now according to these guys it has to be on the plant for it's, "nanotechnology"
, to work. But can we get it in the air and raise CO2 levels in the room? Without the stalagmites of course .And PSU, I got the Open on TV. Now, are you the guy parking everyone's Lexus' or washing their balls. ROFL- Like The Child I Am.
captainmorgan
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If you don't have a Prime membership,get one it's well worth it.Here's what I'm trying to replace:
$35.00 for 6 ounces! BASTARDS!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004KPKAYM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
hyroot
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Have you tried spraying with aloe. It has all trace minerals. It makes the plants pray. Leaves reaching for the sky. Which means stomatas are open more and processing more light. Its a nice turbo boost. Speeds up growth and rooting. I use fresh aloe with kelp meal(strained). It works great. I wouldn't trust any of that processed crap. You can use fresh aloe or by 200x aloe powder but its pricey. Eventually I'm going to get a food dehydrater and make my own aloe powder. .... If you have any aloe plants. Then Its free.
Best cheapest method for co2. Bring in outside air via fan and ducting. Outside air is only 2% co2. But if the fan is running constantly. You have constant co2.
Best cheapest method for co2. Bring in outside air via fan and ducting. Outside air is only 2% co2. But if the fan is running constantly. You have constant co2.
PSUAGRO.
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Everyone just use candles!! ..........lol, well not in my current temps:0........Good conversations as usual, been bogged down filling in all the divots in the course from the shitty "pros" swings!nah just joking, that's not my job either
............ Hey Franjan come pick up your shitty KIA still parked down here!!and you never tipped us douche
I'll have an update on wed just before I bounce out on next Mon for vaca............bitches are in bad shape, but that will be fixed for the party comp and I'll rock Franjan's girls.
Just messing with you Fran, ever thought of just buying a bottle of San Pelligrino http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pellegrino water on them as a sub/ high cal and mag foliar ......one L bottle is 1.49 round here
be safe fellas
............ Hey Franjan come pick up your shitty KIA still parked down here!!and you never tipped us doucheI'll have an update on wed just before I bounce out on next Mon for vaca............bitches are in bad shape, but that will be fixed for the party comp and I'll rock Franjan's girls.
Just messing with you Fran, ever thought of just buying a bottle of San Pelligrino http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pellegrino water on them as a sub/ high cal and mag foliar ......one L bottle is 1.49 round here
be safe fellas
FranJan
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LOL, Dude you know you can bust my balls all day long.
San Pelligrino! I get the San, the plants get Shop-Rite (.99). Naww I've never done that. I'm just looking for something that doesn't involve a tank and costs $$$. I mean I live in an area with high CO2 content, but these 200, 250 dollar a month e-bills for running AC is just wrong. It's so weird I got nothing flowering for the first time in years. If I can survive one more month (102F today!!!!!), then I'll put the AC on for the Cup comp. Got 5 Critical Mass and 2 Black Widow going and they're barely growing. Fuckin heat!
And dude I told you, Juan, and Jose that the roaches in the KIA's ashtrays were yours. Now if you're not too busy, can you pick up that piece of paper over buy the 18th green. FORE!!!!!!
San Pelligrino! I get the San, the plants get Shop-Rite (.99). Naww I've never done that. I'm just looking for something that doesn't involve a tank and costs $$$. I mean I live in an area with high CO2 content, but these 200, 250 dollar a month e-bills for running AC is just wrong. It's so weird I got nothing flowering for the first time in years. If I can survive one more month (102F today!!!!!), then I'll put the AC on for the Cup comp. Got 5 Critical Mass and 2 Black Widow going and they're barely growing. Fuckin heat!
And dude I told you, Juan, and Jose that the roaches in the KIA's ashtrays were yours. Now if you're not too busy, can you pick up that piece of paper over buy the 18th green. FORE!!!!!!
THE KONASSURE
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Ice packs at rootzone level but fuck knows how fast you`d have to change them in that kinda heat jeeze good old england rarely cracks over 30 here ever lol
PSUAGRO.
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Lol.................over 105F problems arise, still will produce though............try 110+(highs) for three weeks, ha I fucked these girls so bad........oh well
Lucky you..............but the winter a'int so dandy right??????or do you use auto's in the winter???? I had no time for tricks/labor intensive cooling DIY systems for this grow.
Yeah sure..............try that Thai
92 days since germination under the indagro par 100/led pontoons: Sensi seeds NL unhappy bitches
If you can't take the heat step out of the grow room bitches!!! lol.......... AH what a massive mistake I made with my running 117+-watts in this sealed summer room, well lesson learned I guess. Fortunately it looks like I will get "something" out of this, I'll still weigh it for shits and giggles. The undergrowth that stretched early in flower has larger buds than the mains ^^^^ due to never getting that initial frying, but are still severely behind due to heat stress. It's not the Inda-gro panels fault, just major grower error thinking that those heat levels would not happen with just a 55-watt increase from last years run(hans). 
....62nd day of "flower" and I will give them one last heavy watering on monday, shut off the power, and let them die slowly over two weeks in the dark. Hopefully won't be too dry when i get back; any thoughts?? Or should I cut them now ====very premature??? be safe and happy growing