Sterilite Storage Bin Stealth Grow, first time grower.
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lol wtf...............
oh now i get it
looks like someone beat u to it as is rich as fuck
maybe u can sue them lol
good lets wait and see how it does
Ajjax
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No changes today, no nute burn or anything, touched the surrounding dirt of the plants to feel for moistness, the ffof doesnt really stay moist feeling but since the rapid rooter is in there its holding moisture well so they wont need another watering yet. I noticed that the first set of leaves on my second seedling thats in the solo cup are pointing down in angle now, dunno if this means anything but they are still green so ill just keep watching her. Pictures after work!
ok cool will be looking for them
Lady.J
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If they have a little droop it could be that they just got a little bit too much water, but they'll probably perk right back up in a day or two.
Ajjax
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Could be, she wasnt that dark green color they turn when they get too much water though.
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1st girl - To me it appears that her first set of leaves got fatter today and to me a little taller, her second set of leaves are still coming in nicely. Just to make sure people are on the same page, i have 2 girls under 2x 6500k lights at 18/6 for a light schedule. Watered the pot until i got some drops for run off, im not going crazy with watering the entire pot since shes not that very big yet and I know her roots arent far out of the rooter shes in, more specifically, i watered in a circle pattern around her so the water soaked down around the rooter where I know her roots are coming out of (pics of this in a previous post while transplanting)
2nd girl - Maybe a little less droopy, i think it was just the way she was growing to the light, i didnt have her directly under the light, i had her off to the side, so I think she was slightly bending towards the light and thats what was causing the slight droopage, leaves look very healthy so im not worried about it, but i did place her directly under the light now, about 2 inches below it, same with girl #1.. The soil around her is dry but the rooter shes in was still moist so all I have her was 1cc of distilled water that has farm farm grow big in it, a 500ml bottle with only .5 mls of grow big, very diulted, it didnt harm my first girl at this side so I doubt it will hurt her, my first girl LOVED! the .5 ml blast i gave her, thats all the watering shes getting tonight though since shes still moist in the rooter.
Heres some pics, give me some feedback on how im doin! (The leaves on my first girl are definitely bigger in my mind)
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1st girl - To me it appears that her first set of leaves got fatter today and to me a little taller, her second set of leaves are still coming in nicely. Just to make sure people are on the same page, i have 2 girls under 2x 6500k lights at 18/6 for a light schedule. Watered the pot until i got some drops for run off, im not going crazy with watering the entire pot since shes not that very big yet and I know her roots arent far out of the rooter shes in, more specifically, i watered in a circle pattern around her so the water soaked down around the rooter where I know her roots are coming out of (pics of this in a previous post while transplanting)
2nd girl - Maybe a little less droopy, i think it was just the way she was growing to the light, i didnt have her directly under the light, i had her off to the side, so I think she was slightly bending towards the light and thats what was causing the slight droopage, leaves look very healthy so im not worried about it, but i did place her directly under the light now, about 2 inches below it, same with girl #1.. The soil around her is dry but the rooter shes in was still moist so all I have her was 1cc of distilled water that has farm farm grow big in it, a 500ml bottle with only .5 mls of grow big, very diulted, it didnt harm my first girl at this side so I doubt it will hurt her, my first girl LOVED! the .5 ml blast i gave her, thats all the watering shes getting tonight though since shes still moist in the rooter.
Heres some pics, give me some feedback on how im doin! (The leaves on my first girl are definitely bigger in my mind)
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Lady.J
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They are looking rather small to be honest. I had worried they would stunt
. That happened to my plants not too long ago...that's why I started them in soil with low dose ferts starting from a couple days above soil. This is sort of what the plants should be looking like around 11 days:
And 7 days...
You babies are stunted! Things are going to take longer, but you'll be able to recover them if you are patient. It's much easier to start plants from soil and in their permanent container when you're first growing. The good news is that these are only bagseed, and are intended for you to learn. I actually learned this same exact way, and prevented from stunting the good genetics. They'll always be behind though, and they are smaller when they reach maturity. Just need to reevaluate your approach, handle your plants less, and you'll get them to grow more efficiently
. I know you have FAB to help you out, but I'll be here for some advice and encouragement every once in a while too if you want!
Ajjax
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You know, I honestly started thinking the rapid rooter is stunting the plant, I read somewhere where someone thought the rooter itself would be hard for the tiny plant to grow through, it is a rather rough medium just from myself trying to tear one, thoughts on removing the plant from it and planting it straight in to the ffof? when the rooter is wet its really easy to gently tear it.
Also, what soil do you start your plants in? Im told ffof isnt good to start a seed in due to the heavy nutes it has in it.
Also, what soil do you start your plants in? Im told ffof isnt good to start a seed in due to the heavy nutes it has in it.
i just germ my seed then straight to soil
but now that u got yours planting they should perk up more
Lady.J
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I'm not sure about the rapid roots...I use paper towels, rockwool, or straight into soil.
I don't really think that you should do anymore removing though
. They're way too little to be moving around. They get stressed very easily. I say you leave them as is and try to grow them out for practice. What I ended up doing on the bagseed I stunted was to grow it out until it had a few nodes, and then got familiar with nute levels and watering. Then I felt more confident germing and growing my good genetics.Fox farm ocean forest is too nute heavy for some strains...so a safer alternative is to mix it up with another soil. I'm using miracle grow organic...got a huge bag, enough to pot several plants in 2 gallon containers, for just over 6 bucks at Lowe's. Mix it with a good bit of perlite because it doesn't have adequate drainage. You could also add some sphagnum peat for water retention, and vermiculite for aeration, but I feel like my plants are fine with just the perlite. This way you don't waste the FF and have something that will be easier on the babies. MG Organic is without nutes and is completely safe. After the seedlings show their first true set of leaves, you can start giving them a low dose of bloom nutes. Sometimes I start in paper towels, place the tap root on the top of the soil and sprinkle some dirt on it. Other times, I push the seed down ever so slightly (1/4 inch) into the soil, and then cover it loosely with dirt...both ways have worked for me.
Ajjax
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Starting next week ill be working on my cab that I had bought when i bought the sterilite bins. On that grow ill be doing one of my bubblicious seeds i bought online and ill be starting probably in ff light warrior, light warrior doesnt have any nutes in it and i can grab a big bag for like 10$ at my local hydro shop, that would work great for dropping a seed in and starting that way right?
Just noticed the humidity in my box is only around 25-30%, any inexpensive way to raise this?
Also, if they are stunted now, does that mean they will ALWAYS grow slower or will they eventually speed up?
Just noticed the humidity in my box is only around 25-30%, any inexpensive way to raise this?
Also, if they are stunted now, does that mean they will ALWAYS grow slower or will they eventually speed up?
Cloudz2600
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Get a few bowls of water and put them inside the bin. Cups work too, but bowls have a larger surface area.
Lady.J
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Light warrior should be good, but keep in mind that you are def going to want to get those nutes to them around 2 - 3 days after sprouting. Make sure the soil has perlite in it...never used Light Warrior so not sure of it's composition but it might already have perlite in it.
Like Cloud said, you could try a bowl of water...also, you could try soaking a towel in water, squeeze out the excess so it's not dripping, then hang it inside the box.
They will speed up eventually, but they'll always be noticeably behind non stunted plants. I recovered my stunted plants, and they are growing well now...but their leaves are much smaller and they kind of look like a 'mini' version of a regular sized plant.
I just thought about it....they are so small that it probably wouldn't hurt to start over if you wanted to since they're just bagseed. They are the size of a plant that's a few days old! My plants got to day 30 before they really started coming around and showing significant growth
. My plants that are half their age are much larger. Guess you just have to decide if you feel like dealing with stunted plants lol. Can still learn off of them.
balactus
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I was gonna mention that his looked way too small but you beat me to the punch. I already assumed they would be stunted. So much movement and stress. Its only the first run so its bound to happen with nervous nelly.They are looking rather small to be honest. I had worried they would stunt
That happened to my plants not too long ago...that's why I started them in soil with low dose ferts starting from a couple days above soil. This is sort of what the plants should be looking like around 11 days:
And 7 days...
You babies are stunted! Things are going to take longer, but you'll be able to recover them if you are patient. It's much easier to start plants from soil and in their permanent container when you're first growing. The good news is that these are only bagseed, and are intended for you to learn. I actually learned this same exact way, and prevented from stunting the good genetics. They'll always be behind though, and they are smaller when they reach maturity. Just need to reevaluate your approach, handle your plants less, and you'll get them to grow more efficiently
@ Ajjax, you don't have anymore bagseed? Honestly since its your first grow and so you don't get disappointed next time round. I'd say mess with more bagseeds if possible. You're already talking about bringing in some strong phenotype to grow when your babies look like runts.
Ajjax
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well ive got 10 of those seeds and i can guarantee they have WAYYYYY better genetics then these bagseeds, i do have 2 more bagseeds though. Also, i feel as though im over the always being anxious for these things, i can feel myself getting more relax day in and day out with them. Honestly, the rapid rooter works great, especially with the dome around it, they pop and sprout like mad! But i feel like they are a tough material and the roots will generally have a slower time getting through. I may pop another bagseed this weekend in a bag of light warrior or some organic starter and see how it works.
@ LadyJ - You keep yours in the miracle grow all through the grow? My thing is i spent 15$ on the ffof so id like to transfer them in to it at some point :/
@ LadyJ - You keep yours in the miracle grow all through the grow? My thing is i spent 15$ on the ffof so id like to transfer them in to it at some point :/