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Grey Cardinal

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Fogdog said:
I never have understood the beef people have with the data farms located in rural districts. So, why reply to a what seems like a dumb argument? Maybe you can explain why Oregon's rural areas can't have a few good jobs in tech?
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Do you're going to dodge the question with me also, ok. I won't point it out again I will just leave that poop alone in your yard where you left it.
 
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Grey Cardinal said:
Do you're going to dodge the question with me also, ok. I won't point it out again I will just leave that poop alone in your yard where you left it.
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Not dodging. I simply don't understand why people are so upset about a few rural jobs. You are the one who seems to claim understanding, Before you criticize me for not answering a question I don't understand, you should enlighten me.

Those data farms were going to be located somewhere. Why not in rural Oregon?
 
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ttystikk

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Grey Cardinal said:
It's not a national issue ifnits not in your nation state though. So I will just leave that there with the spotted owl.
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We're all using their timber and paper products, so once again your parochialism is misleading when applied to a national, even global issue.

It's ONE ecosystem. I know you right wingers hate to be reminded of that.
 
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ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Not dodging. I simply don't understand why people are so upset about a few rural jobs. You are the one who seems to claim understanding, Before you criticize me for not answering a question I don't understand, you should enlighten me.

Those data farms were going to be located somewhere. Why not in rural Oregon?
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Apparently they don't produce enough animal manure to qualify.
 
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ttystikk said:
Apparently they don't produce enough animal manure to qualify.
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Did you get where he lives? By his lights, congressmen outside of the South are corrupt if they take care to encourage jobs in their districts.

I can only guess what the issue is. Because I don't understand what the kerfluffle is all about.
 
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ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Did you get where he lives? By his lights, congressmen outside of the South are corrupt if they take care to encourage jobs in their districts.

I can only guess what the issue is. Because I don't understand what the kerfluffle is all about.
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Tech jobs in rural areas is an idea I support. Better quality of life, lower costs of living for employees, lower land and utility costs for the company. Bonus of better internet connectivity in said rural areas. What's the problem?
 
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Fogdog said:
Not dodging. I simply don't understand why people are so upset about a few rural jobs. You are the one who seems to claim understanding, Before you criticize me for not answering a question I don't understand, you should enlighten me.

Those data farms were going to be located somewhere. Why not in rural Oregon?
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who is upset? More tech jobs are great or are you just appealing to emotion?

I do understand that
Abiqua asked you why did those uber liberal companies choose conservative rural Oregon? Is that hard to understand? It seems you are both in Oregon from the sequential conversation you were having until you stopped seemingly because you didn't want to confront that question.

I was actually looking forward to the elaboration of that issue from both of your perspectives and then you just quit and deflected to me when I pointed out that you were deflecting his why with a why not.

Do you do that a lot?
 
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Fogdog said:
Did you get where he lives? By his lights, congressmen outside of the South are corrupt if they take care to encourage jobs in their districts.

I can only guess what the issue is. Because I don't understand what the kerfluffle is all about.
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Oh I live there? Your assumptions don't grant you to know the difference between from and at. That is a sad state of affairs indeed in the position of waxing philosophical with implied omnipotence as you're in. Did you want to perhaps gloss over the glaring similarities of why congressmen encouraging jobs in both your state and the South are really a side note to why companies are looking at their bottom lines and not the congress people when making their location decisions?

The similarities don't stop there friend, no no. I reckon while I was on vakay a bit ago your region and mine were eclipsed in just the right hue of light as well.

So I needed closure and you broke me into a million pieces and I will lose so much sleep over you simply choosing to pretend to be too unintelligent to understand the question presented to you originally.

That's all no biggie.
 
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ttystikk said:
Tech jobs in rural areas is an idea I support. Better quality of life, lower costs of living for employees, lower land and utility costs for the company. Bonus of better internet connectivity in said rural areas. What's the problem?
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Only thing I can think of is pricing out the natives like we are seeing in the bay area and not tech related but very similarly nonetheless, the North shore Hawaii.
 
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ttystikk said:
Dead chickens still have feathers.

Equivalent relevance.
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Exactly. The chickens will inflate. Then some *th generation Hawaiian can't afford his property taxes on his multigenerational nonleiniar home because all the billionaires moved in.
 
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Fogdog

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Grey Cardinal said:
who is upset? More tech jobs are great or are you just appealing to emotion?

I do understand that
Abiqua asked you why did those uber liberal companies choose conservative rural Oregon? Is that hard to understand? It seems you are both in Oregon from the sequential conversation you were having until you stopped seemingly because you didn't want to confront that question.

I was actually looking forward to the elaboration of that issue from both of your perspectives and then you just quit and deflected to me when I pointed out that you were deflecting his why with a why not.

Do you do that a lot?
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OK, I'll explain.

I don't understand why conservofucks don't think Senator Wyden should fight for jobs in Oregon. Oh really? It's good if a conservative Congressman or even the conservative President take actions, albeit archaic and ineffective ones for jobs, but a liberal Senator should not? The reality is that liberal states have more jobs than your fucked up red states do. Maybe you should be asking Wyden what your congressman should be doing to draw jobs to broken red states. Trump and the GOP are backing archaic and losing plans. They should ask Democrats how come they are so much more successful at helping their states prosper.

Grey Cardinal said:
Only thing I can think of is pricing out the natives like we are seeing in the bay area and not tech related but very similarly nonetheless, the North shore Hawaii.
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So poverty is good for people? What the fuck?
 
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ttystikk said:
Clear-cutting is not renewable logging and a high proportion of logging wild land is still done that way.

Just because it can be done does not mean it is being done, even if it's a good idea. America is terminally stuck on short term gain at the expense of long term consequences.
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Actually I think Foggydog might work for Weyerhauser and hence he/she's crying. Ask him about selective harvesting being done around Roseburg where they live. None. Google oregon, clearcuts are everywhere, coast range first.
There are still working horse loggers in the state, definitely not clear cutters, wish there were more of them. More productive labor as well.
 
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Abiqua said:
Actually I think Foggydog might work for Weyerhauser and hence he/she's crying. Ask him about selective harvesting being done around Roseburg where they live. None. Google oregon, clearcuts are everywhere, coast range first.
There are still working horse loggers in the state, definitely not clear cutters, wish there were more of them. More productive labor as well.
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didn;t you once defend prison guards after they boiled a black man to death?
 
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Abiqua said:
Actually I think Foggydog might work for Weyerhauser and hence he/she's crying. Ask him about selective harvesting being done around Roseburg where they live. None. Google oregon, clearcuts are everywhere, coast range first.
There are still working horse loggers in the state, definitely not clear cutters, wish there were more of them. More productive labor as well.
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Why is it that conservofuckheads like you can never get it right? I mean, never.

You live in the LA area, right? Doesn't matter if you don't. LA is a dead zone. Nothing lives there. Just asphalt, smog, pollution and the walking dead like you. You fuckheads are sucking the planet dry and complaining about not getting enough. Oh and complaining about taxes too. While complaining that your zombie children aren't getting a good education.

Oregon is past the time when logging, fishing, ranching, farming and environmentalist concerns were battling in a zero sum game, winner takes all. We are working together for both sustainable harvests and a healthy environment. Shit heads like the people who occupied the Malheur Wildlife Sanctuary had it so wrong. Ranchers there worked with BLM, environmentalists and other stakeholders to draft a sustainability plan that everybody agreed to. Bundy and his goons just mucked it up. Regarding our forests, Wyden has been a leader to bring people together to come up with management plans that meet the logging industry's needs and protects the environment. We aren't done but we've made progress. Much more progress than your ilk ever made in your artificial and dead LA basin.

All you are concerned with is gas prices and taxes anyway. I wouldn't live in LA. Fuck that dry puss of a place and the people who live there.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Why is it that conservofuckheads like you can never get it right? I mean, never.

You live in the LA area, right? Doesn't matter if you don't. LA is a dead zone. Nothing lives there. Just asphalt, smog, pollution and the walking dead like you. You fuckheads are sucking the planet dry and complaining about not getting enough. Oh and complaining about taxes too. While complaining that your zombie children aren't getting a good education.

Oregon is past the time when logging, fishing, ranching, farming and environmentalist concerns were battling in a zero sum game, winner takes all. We are working together for both sustainable harvests and a healthy environment. Shit heads like the people who occupied the Malheur Wildlife Sanctuary had it so wrong. Ranchers there worked with BLM, environmentalists and other stakeholders to draft a sustainability plan that everybody agreed to. Bundy and his goons just mucked it up. Regarding our forests, Wyden has been a leader to bring people together to come up with management plans that meet the logging industry's needs and protects the environment. We aren't done but we've made progress. Much more progress than your ilk ever made in your artificial and dead LA basin.

All you are concerned with is gas prices and taxes anyway. I wouldn't live in LA. Fuck that dry puss of a place and the people who live there.
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I've occasionally entertained the idea of living in NYC for awhile to enjoy the cultural and economic opportunities. I've never, ever had the same desire to live anywhere near LA.
 
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Fogdog said:
OK, I'll explain.

I don't understand why conservofucks don't think Senator Wyden should fight for jobs in Oregon. Oh really? It's good if a conservative Congressman or even the conservative President take actions, albeit archaic and ineffective ones for jobs, but a liberal Senator should not? The reality is that liberal states have more jobs than your fucked up red states do. Maybe you should be asking Wyden what your congressman should be doing to draw jobs to broken red states. Trump and the GOP are backing archaic and losing plans. They should ask Democrats how come they are so much more successful at helping their states prosper.


So poverty is good for people? What the fuck?
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You mean poverty like when middle class folks that are getting along just fine all of a sudden are priced out of their hometown when "rich" people decide this is where their money will go further?

I think you need a point
 
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