Spy Balloon!

DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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Fogdog said:
Why do you say that?

Needle in a haystack is the term to describe likelihood of visual sightings by commercial airliner. The radar profile must be pretty small too.
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Just the odds I guess. Thousands of hours are spent behind a windshield every week by thousands of planes. And not just by radar, I mean a visual. Of course, Im sure pilots have seen many strange things while flying.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
Just the odds I guess. Thousands of hours are spent behind a windshield every week by thousands of planes. And not just by radar, I mean a visual. Of course, Im sure pilots have seen many strange things while flying.
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most commercial aircraft fly around 30-35000 feet, the balloon was at over 60k feet, or about 4.5 miles higher than almost any passenger flight, even most military planes can't come close to that.
most people wouldn't be able to see an object that size 4.5 miles away.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
most commercial aircraft fly around 30-35000 feet, the balloon was at over 60k feet, or about 4.5 miles higher than almost any passenger flight, even most military planes can't come close to that.
most people wouldn't be able to see an object that size 4.5 miles away.
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IDK man.. I've seen some today at 42K.. they were reporting 40K ft for the barroon. I mean balloon. But, your news source will vary vastly. I've seen them report anywhere between 40K to 50K..... who knows.

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Fogdog

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
Def not through the clouds at 40K ft., but yeah plausible at altitude. They spend thousands of hours a week (divided up amongst the many flights) at 34-42K ft in that area.
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Why are you so fixated on this? I can't help but disagree about your claim of plausibility but why are you repeating yourself over this? Are you saying it was hushed up? There were no reports from commercial airline pilots about these balloons, the most likely reason is because they didn't see them.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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Fogdog said:
Why are you so fixated on this? I can't help but disagree about your claim of plausibility but why are you repeating yourself over this? Are you saying it was hushed up? There were no reports from commercial airline pilots about these balloons, the most likely reason is because they didn't see them.
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Im retired. So, I got some time on my hands.. No conspiracy theories here. Just the fact that thousands of pilots were at that altitude for more than a week, and no reports of a sighting is curious to me.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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I watch flight aware 24 because I have a few pilot friends. It was interesting to see the flight pattern change when the UKR war started... it's like they scattered like roaches when the lights come on. There are zero commercial flights over that area. I can see Military tho... different app.
 
Hotrod2

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Try not to panic, Joe has it in hand and is dropping them as they arrive and in the best place to collect the junk for examination. You can't blame anything on Joe, Trump on the other hand will be indicted soon, along with a lot of other republicans for betraying the constitution. It's hard for Joe and the democrats to top that.
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Not true! Sleepy Joe let one go all the way down Alaska through Canada and all the way across the United States before he dropped it. Whatever the Chinese wanted to do today accomplished it and he allowed it.
 
Coldnasty

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breedwheel said:
I just kind of find it weird how another aircraft is all of a sudden in our airspace. Have we been letting this shit go on? Don't know why he shot it down so quick. It probably wasn't hurting anyone. Is China that brazen they would send another aircraft into our airspace? Nothing make sense or sounds true anymore. China is the #1 threat to our country and our way of living---not climate change. We handled the balloon wrong. They weren't going to tell us about it until some rancher saw it in Montana do you think they are going to tell the truth about what the balloon was really doing or if they really know? Makes me wonder if they are testing dropping some kind of virus or plague over us---and I don't believe in conspiracies. I don't care if the balloon was from Samoa we should have shot it down immediately when we couldn't identify it. Can't keep blaming everything on Trump. He isn't coming back anyway no matter how hard he tries so it's best to let all that anger go. I do agree he is an asshole
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Lol my brain isn’t conspiracy enough and you got me thinking about this Covid 2.0 falling from ballons now. Thanks breedwheel
 
Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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Come on now. My brain is more than conspiracy enough to have already figured it out. The balloon flew over and wirelessly reprogrammed all the power stations under it, so that they can pull off a fake EMP hoax and knock out most of the communications and electricity all at once. Its well known that only 2000 sub stations would have to be hacked with special firmware to bring the US to a complete halt. The feds and globalist need a new 9/11 as usual though, so sit back and watch the show! You guys have heard the conspiracy theorist say over and over how a cyber attack is imminent. How is a spy balloon not a cyber attack?
 
Fogdog

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
Im retired. So, I got some time on my hands.. No conspiracy theories here. Just the fact that thousands of pilots were at that altitude for more than a week, and no reports of a sighting is curious to me.
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I understand that you can't comprehend.

Thousands of planes in the air.

How many do you think were flying above 40,000 feet?

It's OK.
 
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schuylaar

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An American fighter jet, acting on the orders of President Biden and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada, shot down another unidentified flying object on Saturday, Canadian and American officials said, in the latest installment of the drama playing out in the skies of North America.
“I ordered the take down of an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace,” Mr. Trudeau said in a statement posted on Twitter. He said an American F-22 with the North American Aerospace Defense Command, which is operated jointly by the United States and Canada, downed the object over the Yukon Territory.
As with the object that Mr. Biden ordered shot down near Alaska on Friday, officials said they had yet to determine just what had been blasted out of the sky over the Yukon, which borders Alaska.
Mr. Trudeau said he had spoken with Mr. Biden on Saturday afternoon. “Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage of the object,” he said in his Twitter post.
The White House said in a statement Saturday that Mr. Biden and Mr. Trudeau had “discussed the importance of recovering the object in order to determine more details on its purpose or origin.”

Late Saturday, the Federal Aviation Administration briefly closed an area near Havre, Mont., to air traffic. The agency had used similar terminology a week earlier, just before the United States shot down a Chinese spy balloon off the coast of South Carolina. A joint statement from NORAD and U.S. Northern Command later said that NORAD had detected a radar anomaly and sent fighter aircraft to investigate, but they did not find anything that correlated with the radar hits. Officials have acknowledged that a heightened awareness could lead to false positives.

The object taken down over the Yukon was picked up on radar as it passed over Alaska late Friday, Pentagon officials said earlier on Saturday. NORAD sent American fighter jets, which were soon joined by Canadian fighters, to track it.

“Monitoring continued today as the object crossed into Canadian airspace,” said Brig. Gen. Patrick S. Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary. The F-22 shot down the object over Canadian territory using the same Sidewinder air-to-air missile that was used to take down two previous flying objects, General Ryder said, including the Chinese spy balloon a week earlier.

Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin spoke by phone Saturday with his Canadian counterpart, Anita Anand, General Ryder said. Speaking at a news conference that evening, Ms. Anand described the object as cylindrical and said it was smaller than the spy balloon taken down over the Atlantic the previous weekend.

www.nytimes.com

U.S. Jet Shoots Down Flying Object Over Canada (Published 2023)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he and President Biden had ordered the object violating Canadian airspace to be taken down, a day after another object was shot out of the sky near Alaska.
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