So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

I've used DE on several grows but I'm not a fan. Can make soil (muddy) and less aerated. A little is always fine for most things.

I wish we had inventory from Neem Resource here in MI...
 
Nope. You're a smart guy. lots of places say use various things, and I'm sure not saying not to use it. I just didn't find it suitable for me is all.
 
dstrees said:
I feel like I've been wasting these past 2 years on my growing experience. This thread has helped me realize that the reason I've been suffering from bad harvests is because I've been conned into buying all these nutrients and feeding every week! I'm poisoning my plant and myself! No wonder people say my bud is harsh... I feel like a complete dumbass emptying all this cash into chemicals for no reason! It all comes down to a healthy self sufficient soil!
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Get your own worms going and you're halfway there ;)
 
Rrog said:
Nope. You're a smart guy. lots of places say use various things, and I'm sure not saying not to use it. I just didn't find it suitable for me is all.
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Right on, like i said, im the one who studies the most here and no one listens to me.
Oh well, if you listen to these guys at my house these plants grow despite me :blsmoke:
 
SomeCA- As MadH prompted, do you have a worm bin going?

Also- what's the #1 thing you'd like these guys to do but WON'T do? What are they resisting, maybe is another way to look at it.
 
Rrog said:
SomeCA- As MadH prompted, do you have a worm bin going?

Also- what's the #1 thing you'd like these guys to do but WON'T do? What are they resisting, maybe is another way to look at it.
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I need to order some, should i just mix them with the soil or what, sorry, im kinda freaked out, i cant believe i ran out of soil so fast, im going to tear it all down after harvest and remix adding some rock dust more worm castings and more chicken poo, the poo comes from a old chicken house so its like powder, this stuff is amazing, i wanna add some neem cake too.
 
The worm bin is the #1 thing you can do. You should just do it. Add all these items to the worm bin rather than the pot directly as a top dressing.

Then you'll primarily keep top-dressing with your super vermicompost as you go through generations of plantings in the same soil.

No more tossing away, or even dumping and re-mixing. Same soil, less cost less labor. Starting with fresh soil isn't as good as some think. You have to see what a 3rd or 4th generation ROLs soil looks like. That'll change minds.
 
For some reason im not understanding, so buy a plastic container, fill it with ?? and add red worms? Do i scoop the poop off the top?
Should i keep the bin inside? Sorry i just dont get this, can you break it down, maybe pictures? Maybe hot chicks in those pictures or just explain it so my old mind understands lol. Thanks bro.

Rrog said:
The worm bin is the #1 thing you can do. You should just do it. Add all these items to the worm bin rather than the pot directly as a top dressing.

Then you'll primarily keep top-dressing with your super vermicompost as you go through generations of plantings in the same soil.

No more tossing away, or even dumping and re-mixing. Same soil, less cost less labor. Starting with fresh soil isn't as good as some think. You have to see what a 3rd or 4th generation ROLs soil looks like. That'll change minds.
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Buy a rubbermaid container. Drill some holes in the bottom, side, lid, etc for air flow. Add some bedding. This can be shredded cardboard, coco coir, peat, or ideally a mix of all 3. Add something for grit to help them digest the food. Pulverized egg shells, a hand full of soil, small particle sand, etc. Wet the bedding down, add some food, then add a pound or two of red wiggler worms. Done deal. The food that you add can be looked up online. Avoid any meat or dairy products, no onions, and no citrus fruit. Most table scraps are fine, and most anything you would amend your soil with is good as well.

To harvest the castings you have to do some work. There are several ways to approach that. We can get to that once you have the bin set up and rocking....
 
Mad Hamish said:
Get your own worms going and you're halfway there ;)
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We are the brotherz of the wermz.........

think like a werm

Rrog said:
SomeCA- As MadH prompted, do you have a worm bin going?
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Wat he said ^^^^^^

st0wandgrow said:
Buy a rubbermaid container. Drill some holes in the bottom, side, lid, etc for air flow. Add some bedding. This can be shredded cardboard, coco coir, peat, or ideally a mix of all 3. Add something for grit to help them digest the food. Pulverized egg shells, a hand full of soil, small particle sand, etc. Wet the bedding down, add some food, then add a pound or two of red wiggler worms. Done deal. The food that you add can be looked up online. Avoid any meat or dairy products, no onions, and no citrus fruit. Most table scraps are fine, and most anything you would amend your soil with is good as well.

To harvest the castings you have to do some work. There are several ways to approach that. We can get to that once you have the bin set up and rocking....
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Definately ly what he said^^^^ .....use a big smart pot or 30-40 gallon......you can 'stack' them to be used as a conventional 'bin' w a little modification --


yes yes come to the werm side:eyesmoke:
 
Seriously, this whole process is made better, faster and cheaper with the worm and his bin. When I did this last winter it was in the cold basement, and they were out of the way, made no smell and no one left the bin. Leave them alone to do the work. We should resist our male urge to constantly try and tweak something. Go practice joint rolling or something.

Same with no-till. Keep it simple- let mother nature drive and enjoy the ride
 
so i got one of those jack lilane juicers or whatever his name is and my old ladie has been bugging me to get it going again. its a lot of work to drink 30% of the fruit/veggies you put in there and i didn't have a compost pile before. big waste of all the shreds left over i figured so i just haven't been using it for years. I'm now thinking this is probably some of the most primo worm food i could come up with. am i wrong?
 
HGK420 said:
so i got one of those jack lilane juicers or whatever his name is and my old ladie has been bugging me to get it going again. its a lot of work to drink 30% of the fruit/veggies you put in there and i didn't have a compost pile before. big waste of all the shreds left over i figured so i just haven't been using it for years. I'm now thinking this is probably some of the most primo worm food i could come up with. am i wrong?
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Dunno about worm food but i use mine 2 or 3 times a day and it has changed my life, good health to you brother.
 
HGK420 said:
so i got one of those jack lilane juicers or whatever his name is and my old ladie has been bugging me to get it going again. its a lot of work to drink 30% of the fruit/veggies you put in there and i didn't have a compost pile before. big waste of all the shreds left over i figured so i just haven't been using it for years. I'm now thinking this is probably some of the most primo worm food i could come up with. am i wrong?
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You can absolutely put the spent material from your juicer in to your worm bin. I would avoid any citrus fruit, but pretty much all else can go in to your bin. The fact that the fruits have all been broken down in to pulp by the juicer is an added bonus as it won't take as long for the microorganisms (and worms) to tear through it.

If you're making veggie juices, also avoid onions and garlic. The worms (and your wife) will appreciate it. :-)
 
lol good call on the onions and garlic.

any benefit to adding MJ to your worm bin? happy worms? i know a guy that adds a couple leaves here and there is all and I've been curious
 
HGK420 said:
lol good call on the onions and garlic.

any benefit to adding MJ to your worm bin? happy worms? i know a guy that adds a couple leaves here and there is all and I've been curious
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Sure. Pretty much any organic matter can be added. I add them to my compost bin, and then bring some partially finished compost in to let the worms run through for a week or so, but you could add the leaves directly to the worm bin ..... but it will take a while for them to be broken down in to VC.
 
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