So what do we do now with the "refugees"?

OddBall1st

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It's a logical argument to have them stay in the country they're fleeing? If that's what you're getting at we're not even going to discuss this any further because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about, and don't even want to get clued in. If you're talking about them fleeing to neighboring countries they have been. Lebanon, Turkey, and Jordan have been taking the brunt of the refugees seeing as how there are about 7 million IDPs in Syria and 4 million refugees with the majority going to the aforementioned countries. Moreover, how do you really expect someone to just go home after a war when the village/district/city/neighborhood that they lived in has been reduced to a pile of rubble? Refugees are not given permanent residency, but they sure can apply for it.

Politically Correct Bull shit.
 

OddBall1st

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Ignorant answer. Nothing politically correct about it, just correct.
After the question, the first sentence is all one needs to read. Am I ignoring your four Stars or something ? Since they can`t go back to a pile of rubble, and their stay is temporary, when`s time up and where will they go ?
 

OddBall1st

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Saying they have no obligations and here`s your free shit,...sometime soon we`ll change up again,...with no hope of going back to where they are from,...is a major, major, advantage to the bad guy land grabbers. It will dictate,...Who`s next and that`s Bill Goldberg`s job.............
 

OddBall1st

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As far as I know, Assad is in charge of Syria. I don`t think it`s been reveled who is in charge of Iraq.
Anyway, your leader starts there or not at all.
 

Mountain Bud

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I didn't see where you made a correction to your blanket statement about POTUS being born in Kenya, if you did then of course you have my apologies, I too am too old for for getting into frivolous arguments I was directing my response to 1 particular statement that is all, I'm not concerned about any other comment you made. If others enlightened you, great! As they say Nothing worst than an old fool. Again my apologies.

BTW I never said you were a racist I only said how your comment can be construed as a bigoted comment.

B4L
Yes, you did not resort to name calling and you did get me to review my statement and see it in a new light. No apologies necessary. I appreciate you drawing that to my attention and I truly do feel bad that I made a statement that was insensitive or hurtful to anyone. It was not my intent to offend.
No, you are still a racist. A sad, sad racist.
Makes you a protector of pedophiles and rapists. If you see them as a race, so be it. A sad, sad pedophile protector. A sad sad pedophile protector.
 

Mountain Bud

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apparently you missed that whole first amendment thing. no establishment of religion.

not even the 77% christian majority can really get their religion legislated into law, so why are you worried about the 0.7% muslim minority, a slim minority of which even support sharia law?

are you really that fucking stupid?

meh, dumb question. racists are that fucking stupid.
Typical pedophile protector. Just good ol Uncle Buck. How many "nieces and nephews have you bounced on you "knee?"
 

ASCIIGHOST

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Your first sentence is utterly and completely wrong. Christians take on the faith of their father. You're thinking of Judaism where it's traditionally passed down matrilineally. Although, sometimes Jewish people will take on the faith of their father as well, and sometimes Muslims will take on the faith of their mother - a Muslim - and sometimes Christians will take on the faith of their mother. Really, ASCIIGHOST, you prove time and time again you really don't know that much. Go back to the corner.

Your second sentence has no bearing whatsoever on political matters or anything in this thread, once again, you lost. Sounded like you got really angry there and blew a gasket though haha.
why would women subjected to sharia law pass that on?

why would i be mad a bitch smokes blunts? bitches cant handle pure, so they mix with tobacco. just stating facts. most stoners in america dont make the connection. they're fake gangsters emulating what is shown on TV
 

Padawanbater2

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Sub fear-mongering, xenophobic hateful bullshit, what are the actual facts?

"The faith-based fact is that when refugees come to the US (after they've been accepted for refugee status and been thoroughly vetted for 18 months (http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/factsheets/2013/210135.htm) before they even set foot on US soil), they are handed off to voluntary agencies (VOLAGs) (http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/resource/voluntary-agencie), the vast majority of which are faith-based (Christian, Catholic, Lutheran, Jewish) charity groups that provide the refugees with food, clothing, shelter, English lessons, and attempt to find them gainful employment if they are of working age.

Another fact is that since 2011 there have been approximately 2,000 refugees that have been granted permission to enter the US. Of those 2,000 refugees in the last 4 years (that's 500 per year if you can't even math), 50% of them were children under the age of 18. Many of those children are orphans. Of the 2,000 refugees from Syria in the past 4 years only 2% of them have been "military age" males. Again, if you can't even math, that's about 40 males between the age of 18 and 30.

Another common hashtag right now with conservatives is to say that we must support homeless veterans before we take any refugees. Seems reasonable at first glance. I'm 100% in favor of taking care of veterans in any way possible, especially homeless vets, those with healthcare issues, and ones with PTSD and other mental health problems. I hate war, but I think that absolutely no expense should be spared on helping veterans. The problem is that republicans have voted against funding for veterans programs. In 2014 republicans killed a bill (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/27/us-usa-veterans-congress-idUSBREA1Q26O20140227) that would increase healthcare and education benefits for veterans. There is no fiscal year 2016 fundign for Veterans Affairs Supportive Housing (VASH) vouchers. Ahead of Memorial Day this year an amendment was introduced to the House Appropriations Committee to provide housing support for 22,500 homeless veterans. This amendment by Rep Kaptur failed by a roll call vote 29-21. No Republican voted for it.

It's pretty fucking hypocritical for Republican candidates and governors coming out and saying we need to help homeless veterans before we help refugees, when Republicans have voted against helping homeless veterans on multiple occasions. And there's also that little bit about refugees being paid for by charitable donations from faith-based groups."

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/3tfmpn/repeat_after_me_obama_is_not_admitting_100000/cx5u0dn?context=3
 

anzohaze

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Sub fear-mongering, xenophobic hateful bullshit, what are the actual facts?

"The faith-based fact is that when refugees come to the US (after they've been accepted for refugee status and been thoroughly vetted for 18 months (http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/factsheets/2013/210135.htm) before they even set foot on US soil), they are handed off to voluntary agencies (VOLAGs) (http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/resource/voluntary-agencie), the vast majority of which are faith-based (Christian, Catholic, Lutheran, Jewish) charity groups that provide the refugees with food, clothing, shelter, English lessons, and attempt to find them gainful employment if they are of working age.

Another fact is that since 2011 there have been approximately 2,000 refugees that have been granted permission to enter the US. Of those 2,000 refugees in the last 4 years (that's 500 per year if you can't even math), 50% of them were children under the age of 18. Many of those children are orphans. Of the 2,000 refugees from Syria in the past 4 years only 2% of them have been "military age" males. Again, if you can't even math, that's about 40 males between the age of 18 and 30.

Another common hashtag right now with conservatives is to say that we must support homeless veterans before we take any refugees. Seems reasonable at first glance. I'm 100% in favor of taking care of veterans in any way possible, especially homeless vets, those with healthcare issues, and ones with PTSD and other mental health problems. I hate war, but I think that absolutely no expense should be spared on helping veterans. The problem is that republicans have voted against funding for veterans programs. In 2014 republicans killed a bill (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/27/us-usa-veterans-congress-idUSBREA1Q26O20140227) that would increase healthcare and education benefits for veterans. There is no fiscal year 2016 fundign for Veterans Affairs Supportive Housing (VASH) vouchers. Ahead of Memorial Day this year an amendment was introduced to the House Appropriations Committee to provide housing support for 22,500 homeless veterans. This amendment by Rep Kaptur failed by a roll call vote 29-21. No Republican voted for it.

It's pretty fucking hypocritical for Republican candidates and governors coming out and saying we need to help homeless veterans before we help refugees, when Republicans have voted against helping homeless veterans on multiple occasions. And there's also that little bit about refugees being paid for by charitable donations from faith-based groups."

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/3tfmpn/repeat_after_me_obama_is_not_admitting_100000/cx5u0dn?context=3
Was it because were trillions in debt that Barack keeps trying to raise ceiling on debt and keep giving people food stamps welfare etx and can't pay for vets. Pass a drug test get help for 6 months tops after that your on your own. You can come back.for.more assistance in a 2 years period or so. If we got rid of the druggies dumbasss and people that don't work just so they can suck it.out of the government needs to stop. And then no more money will be needed to pay for vets. Vets, elderly, should get first dibs as long as they were apart of society and not a menace.
He sure dont mind giving mils to other countries n shit. BUT need more money for vets sad sad sad
 
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Not GOP

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On the Republican side it's the "war hero" John McCain. He has a terrible track record supporting veterans, and has no business being in charge of anything that has to do with Veterans Affairs
 

ASCIIGHOST

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It's pretty fucking hypocritical for Republican candidates and governors coming out and saying we need to help homeless veterans before we help refugees, when Republicans have voted against helping homeless veterans on multiple occasions. And there's also that little bit about refugees being paid for by charitable donations from faith-based groups."
Yep. Both reBLOODlicans, and demoCRIPS dont give 2 fucks about veterans. Neither do civilians. It's why Bernie Sanders doesn't have to talk about downsizing the military industrial complex to become popular.
Your currency is dependent upon military force. Without it, the force of it being used, vanishes. You think people use federal reserve notes because its the best option?
Why did the US Military contribute to Ron Paul 2012 more than anyone else? Is it because the US Military is racist? Is that the answer the pee brains resort to again?
 

Padawanbater2

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Was it because were trillions in debt that Barack keeps trying to raise ceiling on debt and keep giving people food stamps welfare etx and can't pay for vets. Pass a drug test get help for 6 months tops after that your on your own. You can come back.for.more assistance in a 2 years period or so. If we got rid of the druggies dumbasss and people that don't work just so they can suck it.out of the government needs to stop. And then no more money will be needed to pay for vets. Vets, elderly, should get first dibs as long as they were apart of society and not a menace.
He sure dont mind giving mils to other countries n shit. BUT need more money for vets sad sad sad
You are delusional if you believe our countries financial problems are because of poor people, to dumb it down to some shallow bullshit like that that doesn't even touch on the scope of the actual problem is completely ignorant.

But hey, at least it makes you feel good, right?

That's what's most important...
 

bearkat42

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Sounds great, but can I as a US citizen get a little love and maybe even a job first? I didn't keep a clean record an go to college so someone else could get a free pass while I wait in line for the economy to improve.
Maybe you should be better at whatever it is you do, or find a new career.
 

anzohaze

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You are delusional if you believe our countries financial problems are because of poor people, to dumb it down to some shallow bullshit like that that doesn't even touch on the scope of the actual problem is completely ignorant.

But hey, at least it makes you feel good, right?

That's what's most important...
Reread it again before blabbing they want to put us more In debt for vets while giving millions to other countries as well giving handouts to every lazy person that don't want to work. But we need to go in more debt for vets......that slung wrong and will be the new big think on riu. Vets deserve everything way before other countries refugees and lazy americans. Take away from lazy asses and give.it to who deserves it is what needs to happen
 

Padawanbater2

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Reread it again before blabbing they want to put us more In debt for vets while giving millions to other countries as well giving handouts to every lazy person that don't want to work. But we need to go in more debt for vets......that slung wrong and will be the new big think on riu. Vets deserve everything way before other countries refugees and lazy americans. Take away from lazy asses and give.it to who deserves it is what needs to happen
You're ignorant of reality - you simply want to blame "lazy Americans" when financing welfare is not the problem. They get a dollar fucking forty per meal for fucks sake. You act like every lazy motherfucker in America is dining on caviar and lobster while vets go hungry and homeless. You have no fucking clue what the fuck you're talking about because you heard all your bullshit talking points from media outlets banking on retards blaming down instead of blaming up

Take one goddamn economics class, JUST ONE. FUCK!
 
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